So if things for well for us will the nine tails be sealed back into Kushina or will it go to Naruto?
Second Life Begin Again (A Naruto Reincarnation Quest)
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... That I cannot say.
So a Hyuuga Jinchuriki is possible?
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No. Hinata isn't going to be born for at least another couple of months. And Neji is too old.
... I meant us, but whatever
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Impossible.
We're a reincarnated soul... it'd be a little difficult to stuff another soul into our body without destroying something important.
I am just thinking about the future, if it doesn't go to Nartuo then he won't be ostracised and will have easier time controlling his Chakra but on the other when end game stuff hits he won't be using the super nine tails modes to fight against something like the ten tails. Obtio can get what he needs from other sources such a severed beast limbs or someone who survived the consumption of a tailed beast flesh.
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[X]Atlas Takeover: "I am more experienced in these matters Shiro… let me help." (Note: This will skip the rest of the night, and you will not be able to influence it)
Excessive 'luck' can also be a sign of excessive planning.
IMHO, it seems more reasonable to assume that he arrived a few minutes early but used Kamui to hide and wait for the perfect moment.
Excessive 'luck' can also be a sign of excessive planning.
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Whatever you tried to say for cut off
So are you saying that the attack went as bad as it reasonably could in Canon?
Is that actually Canon, or are you just saying that so Obito can't get killed off by Minato?
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Worst comes to worst, those three minutes should keep Lady Sarutobi alive (initially) which should let her start dealing with Kushina. It also gives a much better chance that the Lord Third will be the one that does the reaper seal if it still ends up needed.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a roll to see if Danzo would do it if Sarutobi would be the one to do the reaper seal. Him failing to offer to die for The Second unlike Sarutobi is his biggest trigger. For all that he's terrible, he has based his life around failing in that moment.
[X]Atlas Takeover: "I am more experienced in these matters Shiro… let me help." (Note: This will skip the rest of the night, and you will not be able to influence it)
We don't have the relevant skills to help Kakashi or really anyone. Atlas is the best bet if we want to make a difference. The only issue is that we loose a chance to choose where we make that difference
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I will not say anytihng more about the subject.
Minato cannot kill Obito.
Sorry, but Obito has the best armor in existance.
Plot Armor.
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I don't think surrendering control to Atlas is the best choice. His interests don't completely align with us on this issue imo. He can advise us as to what course he views as needed, but I don't think surrendering all decision making to him for the night is a good idea.
[X]Help Kakashi: You need to help Kakashi-Sensei, he doesn't look like he will die, but his wounds are serious.
[X]Help Kakashi: You need to help Kakashi-Sensei, he doesn't look like he will die, but his wounds are serious.
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Okay, regardless of the rest of the chap, i have to applaud the dice gods on this one. Bravo!
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[X]Atlas Takeover: "I am more experienced in these matters Shiro… let me help." (Note: This will skip the rest of the night, and you will not be able to influence it)
Seems like a great opportunity to get brownie points with Big Brother, and hopefully get some insight into him by how he acted.
The only down-side is how other people will react to Shiro acting in a very strange way...
unbalancing utterly screwing his son's chakra control). Oh, and while we're at it, why the fuck did he throw away the Yin half when he could have had a second secret WMD for his village instead? Seriously, as far as i'm concerned Minato was retarded on that night.
Maybe since KIA/missing-nin Obito is now known as the attacker the Uchiha clan will suffer less of a backlash from the Kyubi attack... that sort of things...
Seems like a great opportunity to get brownie points with Big Brother, and hopefully get some insight into him by how he acted.
The only down-side is how other people will react to Shiro acting in a very strange way...
Personally i'm hoping for other changes like Hiruzen's wife surviving (significantly reliving Hizuren's obvious depression in canon), Naruto's jurishiki status being actually kept secret, or change whatever retardedness Minato dreamed up to make spitting the Kyubi's chakra in Yang/Yin halves seem like a good idea (and permanently
Maybe since KIA/missing-nin Obito is now known as the attacker the Uchiha clan will suffer less of a backlash from the Kyubi attack... that sort of things...
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Naruto is ALSO a reincarnated soul. So was Madara. Neither of them had any problems with having tailed beasts shoved into them.
My understanding of it was that giving Naruto 100% of Kyubi would have resulted in Dead Naruto. Baby Naruto is strong, but not strong enough to contain Full Force Kyubey, so Minato put in what he could and tossed teh rest. It's not like he had someone else to seal the other half into, after all.
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huum... I don't think I ever read a fic with an entirely crippled, but alive, Minato... nudge nudge wink wink
Probably because, this be Naruto. If it ain't dead, we can fix it. And if it IS dead... we can fix it as long as we ain't a bitch.huum... I don't think I ever read a fic with an entirely crippled, but alive, Minato... nudge nudge wink wink
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No. Just, no.
Sealing in a baby is, by canon, the "best option" as it gives the Jinchūriki better chances of survival and better control over his beast. It's not the only option that works as seen by the multitude of examples in canon. For example: we know that Kushina got sealed as a teen, and Mito as an adult and both survived just fine (though they didn't get to use the Kyubi's chakra much iirc).
On the other end of the spectrum, we have Gaara who got sealed as a pre-term baby without the cheat-like Uzumaki "vitality bloodline", and even with a flawed seal survived just fine too.
As for he didn't have anyone else on hand: he had the whole fucking village around him. Heck, the Bijuu can be sealed in item for a limited amount of time if he really couldn't find a willing host or any age in his ninja force.
Heck, a captured enemy ninja/bandit would do just fine as a stop-gap measure.
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[X]Help Kakashi: You need to help Kakashi-Sensei, he doesn't look like he will die, but his wounds are serious.
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As I see it, healing Kakashi won't allow us to make any important decisions either.
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A gravely wounded four year old uses second hand knowledge to bandage Kakashi's wounds. We can expect a mediocre result, so Kakashi won't be combat ready and will probably need months of recovery.
Since Shiro is still gravely wounded, Kakashi will insist on bringing him to safety. Any reckless suggestions will immediately be vetoed by both him and Atlas, if need be by disabling our arms again.
Side benefits: Due to Shiro being in control, he might gain some stat/skill growth and there's a slight chance of us using meta-knowledge to influence things.
- scenario (assuming direct control)
A medical AI with the steadiest hands in the entire elemental nations will first bandage Shiro to remove the "gravely wounded" malus, then bandage Kakashi. Kakashi will be in a considerably better state than in the other scenario.
Since Atlas will place Shiro's safety first, the two will probably still head somewhere safe, but in this case that might be Konoha's hospital where Atlas can help the wounded.
Side benefits: Due to Atlas being in control, our bond and mutual trust will improve and there's no risk of him declaring that we were reckless.
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My take on it is that the best age to do the sealing is 4~5. Any younger and there is not enough sense of self to resist mental pollution even if an Uzumaki, at least when it's from a full-power Kyuubi; any older, and a Bijuu of the level of the Kyuubi will not integrate with the Chakra network well enough (or, rather, the Chakra network can't adapt well enough for the Jinchuuriki to be able to use its power to the fullest). Thus, Naruto was too young to be able to mentally resist, so Minato took measures.
The 'only at certain ages' and 'only Uzumaki' in my headcanon gets more lax the weaker a Bijuu gets, and even more lax with common points between Bijuu and Jinchuuriki-to-be (a potential host of the Two-tails having a fire affinity, for example). I'm well aware that Magoose has different headcanons, but I still want to get my opinions out there.
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[X]Atlas Takeover: "I am more experienced in these matters Shiro… let me help." (Note: This will skip the rest of the night, and you will not be able to influence it)
Hmm wouldn't Atlas taking over our body gonna be a bit wonky for others? They might think that we are being mind controlled or something like that.
Hmm wouldn't Atlas taking over our body gonna be a bit wonky for others? They might think that we are being mind controlled or something like that.