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Antonia is intrigue 27 so a +9 there as opposed to a +4
Sartier Quest: A Tale of Song, Gods, and Trouble (CK2-Let's Go Hunt Gods, SV!)
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It's the spoiler bit at the top of the page.
Georgie Hulland, Alice Tellar, Bea Chin, and one of the recently arrived Courtiers, Rebecca Morcombe.
*coughs and points to Minority Report trait listed on the front page*
It's not easy to bushwhack someone with visions of the future who is currently on high alert.
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As the Executive, Intrigue is in Andres's bailiwick, not Antonia's.
Oneiros: I actually don't know where you're pointing. :3
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Can you point me to where it has the breakdown of responsibilities. That will be helpful for me as I want to try to submit a turn plan. Thanks
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Oh that, right.
Is that already factored in to the listed % chance?
Exec is Intrigue and Steward + Magic
Did I miss anything @OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato?
Is that already factored in to the listed % chance?
Marshal is Diplo and Military
Exec is Intrigue and Steward + Magic
Did I miss anything @OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato?
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No - the reason the chance is so low is because the target is in a very hostile part of Arbalen on basically on a war footing engaged in an insurgency, rather than a public figure going to the theatre on a nice predictable basis.
... I can't stop thinking of Blake as a surfer dude with a brocon complex now. But wow, having an agent who deliberately causes problems - Hana better get her court in order. And no mercy for the Royal Navy: I don't care if they're all Sonissimo friends. Shame on them for caving and not having the least bit of a spine to do something that is clearly a blow to Sartier unity.
Politics is personal. Also amused at Rita's response. ... But seriously, our agents better not do anything as dumb as this. We won't be amused!
I'm OK with sending the suggested Longbows and rotating in some Minor House troops to supplement the infantry everyone else sent. I'm even OK with not having them defending Tellar given that they'll be on hand for Dale and the temporary cowing of the pirates.
... But honestly, whatever Spectrum says. I have no head for these sorts of things.
So, I agree the 2nd is unnecessary, especially given that tales of our exploits (and Songweavers) are more than enough to speak for themselves. I like the suggestion of some combination of 1st and 3rd.
No time or agents for any of this. I guess the bright side of our naval exploits being so well-known means that everyone else is coming to us, which is handy. Maybe the Khironex will send a delegation next turn.
Yeah, what the heck, Hana. We really could have used Evelyn in other actions, not cleaning up your self-created mess.
Evelyn's got the naval rep, and she's apparently going to be in Etela anyway (thanks Hana
). Seems like a good match. Also... I think, Evelyn literally can't fail this given her diplomacy + bonii.Costs too much influence, and most Houses won't see the need until after Dale.
I'd rather just solve the issue entirely, and honestly, if we quietly alert both Sonissimo and Capo, I think they will put even more pressure on their Vassal Houses not to act up.
@OneirosTheWriter - I know you said it was OK as a stunt, but I want to clarify that if we split this work up such that there is no multi-province travel, this would make Sound the Alarm a 'white' option rather than red, right? If I understand correctly, the red is solely from the fact that an agent would have to travel to both Etela and Capo?
If only Dominic could have finished this action earlier... Not that I would have sent him to Timbre and Carlisle, but we probably could have sent him to Sarba. Possibly. And Carmen's ill so - both of these will have to be put off until next turn.
Ahaha. No.
On the one hand, we've... already called up militia? We only have a few slots left? On the other hand, I'm not sure there's all that much else to do with Luna given her stats, and we can just keep pairing this up with the military research over the next couple of turns. Not glamorous, but necessary.
Maybe next turn. I actually do like this idea and Capo's already stolen this idea and done it, but ...
Obvious stuff and it's a non-agent action.
All cool stuff, but not sure it's high priority at this point in time.
Like this. All 1 turn options and then we can choose either Harmonising or Extending the Shield to finish up the 4 turn martial research bonus. Or, I suppose, we could jump straight to Extending the Shield first after Lesson's Learned. That would match up with the 3 turn levy option.
Get this done while we can still spend the influence!
I'm... actually really tempted just to stick one of the Lumens on this. Actually, someone suggested sending May to do the roads, but I'd like to switch it around. May does this where we can have our spies discreetly monitor her in a central location, and since May is mentoring Alina, Alina will be there as well so we can choose one of those actions below to try to get her to knock off the Teuv worship. Also, it's one of the few options that I think we got the main bonus already from RTM Tarrant. It's possible some of the rest may also end up helping, but they're so far down the list of RTMs that I don't think it'd be worth waiting for.
Also, Juan's stewardship is higher and this one has the higher base chance.
I really like this, but I think we'd get bonuses with some more RTM, and I don't think we have a character who can do this without double stacking - and we desperately need those actions elsewhere.
One thing I don't like about these is that it's hard to find a counterpart to them since they're both Research actions. And generally, Carmen aside, our agents are not particularly well-rounded.
This is the longest assassination. At this point, I expect Melody to have established a network of spies for us there. And whoever that girl Arnold took back.
Well, I've found what we want Melody to do if she ever comes back.
One of these... and what can we pair for this?
Another one that I'd really like, but we don't have the agents to spare and Monica's stewardship is terrible.
Ties in well with the other action to inform Capo, and this is a more favorable test given Monica's stats and Tellar bonii. I'm not sure how well doing sneaky things in the intrigue house territory was going to go anyway, and besides, Capo Mists? I'm pretty sure we'll want to spread that info anyway if we find out more about why it keeps corresponding to Teuv appearances.
If we can fit this in, I'd like to do this.
Think on your choices. Think on them hard!... Maybe. I don't know if we have the finances for this yet.
@OneirosTheWriter ... So is Sonorous Shadows a combat test? Or a magic test? Both? Also, does Tellar provide any bonus to rolls for combat?
Yes, please.
A stewardship agent!
Hallelujah!... Well, start with Rehabilitate, I guess.
These look pretty good - except for the part where we can't pick any of them because we'll be busy. In Etela.
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@OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato
If we send Evelyn to display our displeasure is that both her agent action and her personal action or is it just her personal action?
Also is it possible to revise which areas the ruling pair look after as with Evelyn she is a top tier diplomat and top tier song weaver but would be in a role where she would only be responsible for one of those areas after she takes over the ruling pair.
If we send Evelyn to display our displeasure is that both her agent action and her personal action or is it just her personal action?
Also is it possible to revise which areas the ruling pair look after as with Evelyn she is a top tier diplomat and top tier song weaver but would be in a role where she would only be responsible for one of those areas after she takes over the ruling pair.
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Starting cut down on Agent-required actions...
@OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato If Evelyn is sent to Etela for "What the heck, Hana":
1) Confirmation that is not exclusive and we could use her to, for example, talk to the Royal Navy
1a) Clarification on whether the stunt to send someone to speak to Sonissimmo or Capo only about the Teuv threat turns that from Red to White due to making it not a multiple-location travel option
2) Clarification on whether this locks out Backup Plan as it is a free action and further clarification on whether where Evelyn is located in a given turn affects what results she'll get on Backup Plan
3) Separately: Is Sarba cooler with us or is it just not an option to permanently try and solve their issues because of the Teuv crisis?
4) Is A Grand Fleet Martial or Diplomacy? (Or both?)
5) Requoting:
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Priorities haven't changed for this turn that much. Still Sartier issues in terms of Tellar not being respected enough, still economic issues with Tellar only barely into econ, and Teuv issues kinda getting worse.
So...what are our limits right now:
55k Income + 19k from fines expected
90k treasury
Given usual expenditures, we can safely spend somewhere around 65-70k to not burn down the treasury too much (a little is fine) and to keep a reserve in place for mid-turn shenanigans. This...isn't actually that much when you look at all the hilarious expensive stuff I highlighted above. It's definitely econ and research's time to get a share of the budget, but sheesh.
Agents:
Evelyn is going to Etela, no real question there.
May is getting a econ Action of some kind in Harper. She's both mildly suspicious still and she has the Architect trait. Given that we don't have the Influence, I'm leaning Bridge or Docks. I don't think we have the money for Husbandry even if I want it more.
Juan has some options, there are more attractive research picks to do, could also put him on an Action as well to double down. He's okay as a Diplomat too if he's getting sent elsewhere for RTM. I think I have a good synergy plan for him, actually, the more I look at it.
We probably need someone else in Etela given the hotspot actions there, we probably need someone over in Carentan...though you know what, it might be okay to just not tell Sonissimmo and Capo this turn to save actions and agents. Something to think about. Note that Sound the Alarm is a diplo action, even if there isn't a chance associated. I saw an idea about having Monica do research in Carentan along with the Capo (which is exclusive, mind) and while if she does that she needs a backup agent to unlock it anyway because her Diplo is shit and that agent can thus then also talk to Capo about the Teuv...it's still kind of a waste.
@OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato If Evelyn is sent to Etela for "What the heck, Hana":
1) Confirmation that is not exclusive and we could use her to, for example, talk to the Royal Navy
1a) Clarification on whether the stunt to send someone to speak to Sonissimmo or Capo only about the Teuv threat turns that from Red to White due to making it not a multiple-location travel option
2) Clarification on whether this locks out Backup Plan as it is a free action and further clarification on whether where Evelyn is located in a given turn affects what results she'll get on Backup Plan
3) Separately: Is Sarba cooler with us or is it just not an option to permanently try and solve their issues because of the Teuv crisis?
4) Is A Grand Fleet Martial or Diplomacy? (Or both?)
5) Requoting:
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Priorities haven't changed for this turn that much. Still Sartier issues in terms of Tellar not being respected enough, still economic issues with Tellar only barely into econ, and Teuv issues kinda getting worse.
So...what are our limits right now:
55k Income + 19k from fines expected
90k treasury
Given usual expenditures, we can safely spend somewhere around 65-70k to not burn down the treasury too much (a little is fine) and to keep a reserve in place for mid-turn shenanigans. This...isn't actually that much when you look at all the hilarious expensive stuff I highlighted above. It's definitely econ and research's time to get a share of the budget, but sheesh.
Agents:
Evelyn is going to Etela, no real question there.
May is getting a econ Action of some kind in Harper. She's both mildly suspicious still and she has the Architect trait. Given that we don't have the Influence, I'm leaning Bridge or Docks. I don't think we have the money for Husbandry even if I want it more.
Juan has some options, there are more attractive research picks to do, could also put him on an Action as well to double down. He's okay as a Diplomat too if he's getting sent elsewhere for RTM. I think I have a good synergy plan for him, actually, the more I look at it.
We probably need someone else in Etela given the hotspot actions there, we probably need someone over in Carentan...though you know what, it might be okay to just not tell Sonissimmo and Capo this turn to save actions and agents. Something to think about. Note that Sound the Alarm is a diplo action, even if there isn't a chance associated. I saw an idea about having Monica do research in Carentan along with the Capo (which is exclusive, mind) and while if she does that she needs a backup agent to unlock it anyway because her Diplo is shit and that agent can thus then also talk to Capo about the Teuv...it's still kind of a waste.
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It can get you into a combat test depending on how things go. It is a Magic test to start with. Tellar doesn't provide additional combat bonuses.
Yes, these can be added onto stunts for people who are already headed to Carentan and Etela.
Well, the most important part of the divide is that a Marshall looks outside the House, an Executive looks within the House. That's part of the duality of a ruling pair.
Theo is Dread 2, Hamid is Dread 4; there is no Chiv/Dread penalty to apply.
Yes
Yes, as long as someone is in Carentan to talk to Lucas and Theresa Capo.
Mrrrrrrrr, no it does not lock it out, and yes, her location influences what is around to look at.
Their 'Put Yourself in Their Shoes' action hasn't been taken yet.
Martial
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Herpaderp, thanks. Already making mistakes, I continue to blame this stupid laptop, don't have my second monitor to drag the datasheets to.
Waffling on options here. It's actually attractive to toss Theo onto magic stuff also but this locks him up to not be a beatstick when needed. Same with everyone else, Dominic being locked up has really actually hamstrung us in certain ways given all the diplo stuff going on. Might be able to use Luna on multi-turn research since we'll get Dominic back and a free action, though...
Juan's been useful on easier diplo too so not having him locked up for too long helps. Hamid needs to be able to react...Monica we can safely sock away on research, I know exactly what I want her to do, I just need to find something to pair her with...actually, she's viable for Martial too...
...but the action is gone.
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Diplomacy->Research->Option # 2.
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What the f--I even searched for it. *facepalm*
Turn 4 v.2
Free Actions
Paying Your Dues
-[X] Write in: Spectrum
The Horse Lords
-[X] Why Yes, We Do Like Gold - Emphasise a desire for trade between your region and Kabilee.
-[X] Like What You See? - Kabilee maintains close relations to Tarrant, among others. Perhaps there is room for closer relations here, too?
Non-Agent Actions
[X] Spoils of War - Tellar claimed a number of captured pirate hulls in their battle with Tranquility at Nune Reef. It would be good to see them put to use! (1 Influence Cost, covers any number of the below options) [You have SEVEN (7) Corsair hulls available, Destination: Harper]
-[X] Dismantle and Examine - [Automatic Success, gain +15 to next Naval Research action, may only be taken for 1 ship]
-[X] Repair and Crew - [Indicate between 1-7 ships, gain that many Ships, costs of Crewing 500g per, may require additional repairs, 1 turn, automatic success]
--[X] 6 Corsairs
Georgie Hulland [Research Value: 5d20 + 1d20 (Chiming Forest Research Camp)]
[X] - Hale and Hearty [Research Requirement: 250, create an action for farm yield improvement]
[X] Louise [1 Influence Cost, 0g, Louise Tellar is appointed as an Agent of Harper]
The Young and the Stupid
-[X] Rehabilitate [1 Influence Cost, chance of failure, chance of spreading Atheist trait]
[X] Valerie [1 Influence Cost, automatic, 0g, Valerie Tellar is retrieved from Carlisle and brought to Court]
[X] Singing in the Sea Spray [1 Influence Cost, 40% base chance, tests against Rita Hulland, 1 turn, 5,000g, attempt to teach Naval Songweaving to 4 Songweavers in the Court at Harper, Destination: Harper]
[ ] Your young relative, Alice Tellar (Mg 25), would like an opportunity to conduct general research. [Research Type: Various, 15,000g startup, 3,000g per turn upkeep, Research Value: 3d20]
Evelyn
In the Navy!
-[X] Balan [60% base chance, 500g, unlocks new options, Destination: Etela]
[X] Sound the Alarm
-[X] ... Quietly - Sonissimo [Etela]
What the heck, Hana!?
- [X] Evelyn [Evelyn Tellar Only - Start Interlude, Counts as Evelyn's Personal Action, Destination: Etela]
Juan Lumen
[X] Capo Mists.
-[X] … Jointly with the Capo [Replace above costs with: 40%, 6,000g, Diplomacy/Magic test, 3 turns, research shared with the Capo]
Read the Manual [60% Base chance, 2,000g, improves "Roadworks Next Twenty Leagues actions, better base chances, moderates failure states, 1 turn, Destination: Dependent]
-[X] Dale
May Lumen
Roadworks Next Twenty Leagues -
-[X] Roads [45% base, 6,000g, 8,000g/turn for 3 turns, reduce by one turn per extra Influence you add to the project, as it helps you gain buy-in from minor houses to contribute, Counts as 1 Infrastructure Action, improve response rolls to trouble in districts]
-- [X] Spend 2 influence
[ ] - Logistics - You're told that when they went and tallied up the expense of the six-month confrontation and realised that across Sartier something on the order of half a million gold crowns had been paid to raise and maintain the levy, Juan and May Lumen had gone and gotten blind drunk. After getting over their hangovers, they started brainstorming ideas for savings in the industries that support your levy. [50% base chance, Stewardship test, 3,000g, unlocks new options, 2 turns] (Chances increased via Luna trait)
Luna Reynolds
[X] ...But That Is A Sacrifice I Am Willing To Make [40% base chance, 8,000g, 3 turns, +5 Morale to Militia and Levy, 10% Reduction in call-up costs]
[X] Lessons Learned [40% base chance, 4,000g, 1 turn, Gain +10 to martial research rolls for 4 turns, Destination: Non-specific]
Monica Reynolds
[X] Capo Mists.
-[X] … Jointly with the Capo [Replace above costs with: 40%, 6,000g, Diplomacy/Magic test, 3 turns, research shared with the Capo]
[X] Sound the Alarm
-[X] ... Quietly - Capo [Carentan]
Theo Raleigh
[X] - Making Connections [60% base chance, 5,000g, 1 turn, lead to construction options, Destination: Harper (countryside)]
The Best Tree House in Harper
[X] - Harmonious Hides - [30% base chance, 1 turn, 5,000g, gain infantry and character armour research and construction options, Destination: Harper (countryside)]
[ ] - Sonorous Shadows - There's ... something out there. In the deep woods. Some report seeing .. shapes, floating and flying among the trees. The locals warn you not to tread deeper. What could be out there? [10% base chance, 1 turn, 8,000g, ???, Destination: Harper (countryside)]
Hamid Hulland
[X] The Cradle of a Fleet [60% base chance of success, 6,000g, 3,000g per turn (2,000g per turn for House Reynolds), +3 Relations with House Reynolds, 6 turns, Flute-grade Shipyard berths increase to 6, Agent available after 2 turns, Counts as 1 Infrastructure Action] (Will provide bonuses to A Grand Fleet)
[X] - Know thy Enemy [40% base chance, 3,000g/turn, 2 turns, generate a report on Teuvian Gods, possibly earn bonuses to Teuv related rolls, Destination: Harper]
Total Cost: (600g * 6 = 3600g) + 2000g + 500g + (6,000g + 2,000g = 8,000g) + (6,000g + 8,000g = 14,000g) + (8,000g + 4,000g = 12,000g) + (5,000g + 5,000g) + (9,000g + 3,000g = 12,000g) = 62,100
Total Influence: 10 - 2 (Dale) - 4 (Non-Agent Actions) - 2 (Roads) = 2 left for Mid-Turn
Here's my tentative plan. OK, before everyone starts laughing...
- OK, it's true. Theo has terrible stewardship. But this is a base 60% so add on his stewardship plus bonii, it's 89% chance of doing this. And look, it's just a 1 turn thing, and we can have our new Stewardship agent take over with the actual construction stuff after (or do something else)
- I'm undecided between Harmonious Hides (which is less risky at around 84%) and just going YOLO and trying for Sonorous Shadows. Theo does have the unique skillset of being both a magic and combat monster. The only other person who can probably match him in an overall sense has ridiculous diplomacy and will be needed elsewhere. I think this option will always be a bit of a gamble.
- So Hamid... Uh, look, our stewardship agents are only decent, and strangely, Hamid has a really good stewardship score relative to his peers at our House! Plus, it matches up turn wise with the Teuv set and all of this is set in Harper.
Free Actions
Paying Your Dues
-[X] Write in: Spectrum
The Horse Lords
-[X] Why Yes, We Do Like Gold - Emphasise a desire for trade between your region and Kabilee.
-[X] Like What You See? - Kabilee maintains close relations to Tarrant, among others. Perhaps there is room for closer relations here, too?
Non-Agent Actions
[X] Spoils of War - Tellar claimed a number of captured pirate hulls in their battle with Tranquility at Nune Reef. It would be good to see them put to use! (1 Influence Cost, covers any number of the below options) [You have SEVEN (7) Corsair hulls available, Destination: Harper]
-[X] Dismantle and Examine - [Automatic Success, gain +15 to next Naval Research action, may only be taken for 1 ship]
-[X] Repair and Crew - [Indicate between 1-7 ships, gain that many Ships, costs of Crewing 500g per, may require additional repairs, 1 turn, automatic success]
--[X] 6 Corsairs
Georgie Hulland [Research Value: 5d20 + 1d20 (Chiming Forest Research Camp)]
[X] - Hale and Hearty [Research Requirement: 250, create an action for farm yield improvement]
[X] Louise [1 Influence Cost, 0g, Louise Tellar is appointed as an Agent of Harper]
The Young and the Stupid
-[X] Rehabilitate [1 Influence Cost, chance of failure, chance of spreading Atheist trait]
[X] Valerie [1 Influence Cost, automatic, 0g, Valerie Tellar is retrieved from Carlisle and brought to Court]
[X] Singing in the Sea Spray [1 Influence Cost, 40% base chance, tests against Rita Hulland, 1 turn, 5,000g, attempt to teach Naval Songweaving to 4 Songweavers in the Court at Harper, Destination: Harper]
[ ] Your young relative, Alice Tellar (Mg 25), would like an opportunity to conduct general research. [Research Type: Various, 15,000g startup, 3,000g per turn upkeep, Research Value: 3d20]
Evelyn
In the Navy!
-[X] Balan [60% base chance, 500g, unlocks new options, Destination: Etela]
[X] Sound the Alarm
-[X] ... Quietly - Sonissimo [Etela]
What the heck, Hana!?
- [X] Evelyn [Evelyn Tellar Only - Start Interlude, Counts as Evelyn's Personal Action, Destination: Etela]
Juan Lumen
[X] Capo Mists.
-[X] … Jointly with the Capo [Replace above costs with: 40%, 6,000g, Diplomacy/Magic test, 3 turns, research shared with the Capo]
Read the Manual [60% Base chance, 2,000g, improves "Roadworks Next Twenty Leagues actions, better base chances, moderates failure states, 1 turn, Destination: Dependent]
-[X] Dale
May Lumen
Roadworks Next Twenty Leagues -
-[X] Roads [45% base, 6,000g, 8,000g/turn for 3 turns, reduce by one turn per extra Influence you add to the project, as it helps you gain buy-in from minor houses to contribute, Counts as 1 Infrastructure Action, improve response rolls to trouble in districts]
-- [X] Spend 2 influence
[ ] - Logistics - You're told that when they went and tallied up the expense of the six-month confrontation and realised that across Sartier something on the order of half a million gold crowns had been paid to raise and maintain the levy, Juan and May Lumen had gone and gotten blind drunk. After getting over their hangovers, they started brainstorming ideas for savings in the industries that support your levy. [50% base chance, Stewardship test, 3,000g, unlocks new options, 2 turns] (Chances increased via Luna trait)
Luna Reynolds
[X] ...But That Is A Sacrifice I Am Willing To Make [40% base chance, 8,000g, 3 turns, +5 Morale to Militia and Levy, 10% Reduction in call-up costs]
[X] Lessons Learned [40% base chance, 4,000g, 1 turn, Gain +10 to martial research rolls for 4 turns, Destination: Non-specific]
Monica Reynolds
[X] Capo Mists.
-[X] … Jointly with the Capo [Replace above costs with: 40%, 6,000g, Diplomacy/Magic test, 3 turns, research shared with the Capo]
[X] Sound the Alarm
-[X] ... Quietly - Capo [Carentan]
Theo Raleigh
[X] - Making Connections [60% base chance, 5,000g, 1 turn, lead to construction options, Destination: Harper (countryside)]
The Best Tree House in Harper
[X] - Harmonious Hides - [30% base chance, 1 turn, 5,000g, gain infantry and character armour research and construction options, Destination: Harper (countryside)]
[ ] - Sonorous Shadows - There's ... something out there. In the deep woods. Some report seeing .. shapes, floating and flying among the trees. The locals warn you not to tread deeper. What could be out there? [10% base chance, 1 turn, 8,000g, ???, Destination: Harper (countryside)]
Hamid Hulland
[X] The Cradle of a Fleet [60% base chance of success, 6,000g, 3,000g per turn (2,000g per turn for House Reynolds), +3 Relations with House Reynolds, 6 turns, Flute-grade Shipyard berths increase to 6, Agent available after 2 turns, Counts as 1 Infrastructure Action] (Will provide bonuses to A Grand Fleet)
[X] - Know thy Enemy [40% base chance, 3,000g/turn, 2 turns, generate a report on Teuvian Gods, possibly earn bonuses to Teuv related rolls, Destination: Harper]
Total Cost: (600g * 6 = 3600g) + 2000g + 500g + (6,000g + 2,000g = 8,000g) + (6,000g + 8,000g = 14,000g) + (8,000g + 4,000g = 12,000g) + (5,000g + 5,000g) + (9,000g + 3,000g = 12,000g) = 62,100
Total Influence: 10 - 2 (Dale) - 4 (Non-Agent Actions) - 2 (Roads) = 2 left for Mid-Turn
Here's my tentative plan. OK, before everyone starts laughing...
- OK, it's true. Theo has terrible stewardship. But this is a base 60% so add on his stewardship plus bonii, it's 89% chance of doing this. And look, it's just a 1 turn thing, and we can have our new Stewardship agent take over with the actual construction stuff after (or do something else)
- I'm undecided between Harmonious Hides (which is less risky at around 84%) and just going YOLO and trying for Sonorous Shadows. Theo does have the unique skillset of being both a magic and combat monster. The only other person who can probably match him in an overall sense has ridiculous diplomacy and will be needed elsewhere. I think this option will always be a bit of a gamble.
- So Hamid... Uh, look, our stewardship agents are only decent, and strangely, Hamid has a really good stewardship score relative to his peers at our House! Plus, it matches up turn wise with the Teuv set and all of this is set in Harper.
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*fumes* Okay, I'm calling that we can't deal with Sarba or with Carlisle+Timbre this turn. The only vaguely capable Chivalry Diplo Agent available is May and haha no. Evelyn is dealing with Sonissimmo's idiocy, Dominic is still tied up, Carmen is sick, and everyone else is Dread. So in some sense that makes things easier by just writing that off...
(For example specifically: Monica has garbo Diplomacy and you have her doing two Diplo actions... 40% + 16 (Monica) + 15 (Evelyn)+ 8 (Antonia) =79% )
I've made no secret that I tilt towards aggressive plans but only in dire circumstances/lack of any other options do I think we should really push the envlope. In general I feel we do still want to limit our failure chances where possible--because I recognize that yes when we throw enough 80-85% we're going to eat failures. And from how the Hamid and Charlie cooperation thing, that was even fairly benign and that was still a really annoying failure.
While you were writing this up, I've made a few relevant comments interspersed above. I won't pick your plan apart, just that you may want to consider them.
(For example specifically: Monica has garbo Diplomacy and you have her doing two Diplo actions... 40% + 16 (Monica) + 15 (Evelyn)+ 8 (Antonia) =79% )
I've made no secret that I tilt towards aggressive plans but only in dire circumstances/lack of any other options do I think we should really push the envlope. In general I feel we do still want to limit our failure chances where possible--because I recognize that yes when we throw enough 80-85% we're going to eat failures. And from how the Hamid and Charlie cooperation thing, that was even fairly benign and that was still a really annoying failure.
I was actually more worried about costs. I'm not sure what to do about that yet. But in any case, it's just the one diplomacy, no? There's no percentage chance on informing quietly, presumably because there's no negotiating - it's just a straight relay of information.
This is probably the riskiest action of the ones I chose. Theo's actions are more like nice bonii if they succeed.
Generally, I just like the fluff idea of us sending Monica - who would be recognizable as one of the Elite Songweavers and thus, noticeable - and disguise information sharing behind another valid request to set up a magic research facility. It totally plays into our reputation of being magic-obsessed beatsticks, giving people what they want to see. I feel like Capo would appreciate tradecraft like that.
Edit: Dropped roads. Too expensive.
Switched to using up the 2 influence elsewhere then setting Juan to Logistics. Might as well match up with what Luna is up to.
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So does What the Heck Hana?
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count as a white action for Evelyn that also consumes her personal action as well or is it a personal action in which case she is free to take a white and blue action in Etela
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Also can you include the Symphony Bonuses in a Table as well at the start of the turn for the five scores?
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Evelyn can take on a second action. Sound the alarm is kinda being thrown in for people as a freebie because if you're not taking additional travel, and you're already in Etela, then it basically only requires a meeting or two.
Right I'll add that to the list once I get a chance.
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Action failures are actually pretty bad in this Quest, they tend to give lingering penalties and other maluses. We've been very fortunate thus far but I'd prefer not to see more occur. Failure in that specific case would actually block progression and probably lock the thing out--it's something best paired with having Evelyn on hand so she can ghetto diplomacy things like she did with getting Rita into Naval Songweaving.
The other one may not have a % chance but almost all actions still have some kind of roll associated (except for placing really trivial orders of stuff and minor house stuff). It may not fail but any other benefits will likely be lost because Monica has a poor chance at making the subrolls and diplo rep ones. (Kinda ironic given her character and depiction but I guess she gets by on...other assets.)
Mind, we're short in general on Diplo guys or reasons to be in Carentan, so I still have some homework to do there...may have to change course from my previous declaration and have Juan do it and RTM Capo. (Ugh, now I need to go back and find Oneiros' post on what RTM on a given area does.) @OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato Will Sound the Alarm also be 'free' for whoever is in Cartentan?
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- Australia
Yes
Fwiw, actions are meant to succeed here - you're supposed to get what you see, and the rest is haggling about the degree of success (hence the sub-roll system).
So if an action fails outright, then Something Went Wrong.
I mean, they won't usually be as bad as the time Imrix dropped an Imperial Civil War in our laps after rolling a 4 on a routine diplomacy action in Ulthuan Quest. But still. "Something Went Wrong".
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Just requoting this primarily for my own reference but in case anyone else ends up considering it:
@OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato Where can I find the call-up costs for Militia and deployment costs for standing troops for trying to put together a custom Paying Your Dues submission?
(Godammit Capo you are not very useful, I don't care about 2/3 of your stuff)
@OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato Where can I find the call-up costs for Militia and deployment costs for standing troops for trying to put together a custom Paying Your Dues submission?
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1,000g for a Militia Regiment, no extra costs for the time being on standing troops.
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How grumpy/cheerful are our Minor Houses in regard to getting an 'opportunity' like being requested to submit something for Paying Your Dues?
And what stat is "The Cradle of a Fleet"?
Thanks for all the answers, as always!
(Oh for the love of...I just realized that when I shut down tomorrow to lock my laptop up during the day, when I come back I'm going to have to reopen all the spoiler blocks for all the tabs I have open to reference while planning for this turn. RIP me)
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- Australia
"Resigned", is probably the term. It's an expected part of the deal.
Stewardship, since it is a major construction project.