Sartier Quest: A Tale of Song, Gods, and Trouble (CK2-Let's Go Hunt Gods, SV!)

Oh, that's good to know. I was already rejiggering my mental plan to account for the malus. Will it kick in on future turns (and hopefully be announced along with any other rules changes) or not at all used on the mini-Turns?


This will count until Tellar Turn 4 results post - after that, people who wanted to practice on the reduced system should have the hang of it.

Edit: Currently faffing about with maps to give a much better idea of where these towns/Minor Houses are.
 
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[X] - Sweet-Talk - Send your agent to the Court of the Minor House to present your credentials from the Dale and spin a cover-story of Vincennes agents that you are tracking down. Less likely to be believed, but also less likely to ruffle feathers. [40% base chance, 1 turn, Get change in level of cooperation in a given Minor House upward by 1 level (None->Grudging->Full)]
-[X] Audrey Suarez
If you choose this option, as far as I can tell you need to specify a House to target.

[X] - Request Aid - You aren't in this complete alone. Powerful forces are arrayed behind you, able to offer aid if you can make your case for more resources. There are a number of things you can ask for, such as...
-[X] An Additional Agent - This is a bigger job than expected, perhaps you can call in an extra pair of trusted hands? [20% base chance, request an additional agent from Court at Harper] (This chance will increase each turn, will pop an option up to the next main turn or mid-turn to pick a candidate from your existing list or check through the Minor Houses)
Keep in mind that this will involve picking through the list again even if it's successful and whether or not we have an agent worth sending or will have to do a cattle call to find someone useful.
 
If you choose this option, as far as I can tell you need to specify a House to target.
Whoops, forgot. Editing.
Keep in mind that this will involve picking through the list again even if it's successful and whether or not we have an agent worth sending or will have to do a cattle call to find someone useful.
Yes, I understand that. We do need more manpower to apply to the problem however, and problems aren't so critical yet that an across the board success rate boost is critical. Best to recruit while we still have any time to do so.
 
Yes, I understand that. We do need more manpower to apply to the problem however, and problems aren't so critical yet that an across the board success rate boost is critical. Best to recruit while we still have any time to do so.
1) Consider whether failing introduction actions will actually have ripple effects afterwards due to a poor relationship being formed. First impressions, etc

2) Consider whether we actually have any more manpower available or whether this could be a waste of an action.
Nick Lang, Courtier, M20
- Hamid has belatedly realised that Nick is actually rather gullible. [Hidden Trait 'Gullible' revealed]
Madeleine Chin, Courtier, F18
- She is intrigued by Tonnew, Antonia and Hamid will lay down the law here. [Hidden Trait 'Intrigued by Tonnew' revealed]
Sonja Raleigh, Courtier, F25
- Hamid suspects she would kill Theo if she thought she could get away with it.
So it's up to whether these findings disallow any of these picks. Also Alice Tellar (High piety, no finding) and Bea Chin (High-Middling, no finding). Given the TNs involved, it's all but given that there's someone out there with Secrets we couldn't even get suspicions about.
 
Okay, going to set a 48 hr time to vote close on this. @Neptune, are you going to finalise your plan?

Other than that, we have Katreus' plan(Original - Fantasy - Sartier Quest: A Tale of Song, Gods, and Trouble (CK2-Let's Go Hunt Gods, SV!) | Page 49) and veekie's plan(Original - Fantasy - Sartier Quest: A Tale of Song, Gods, and Trouble (CK2-Let's Go Hunt Gods, SV!) | Page 49) for people to vote on.

I hope our lurkers and other participants do get out and vote, in these parlous times for democracy ;V
 
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[X] The Roses Ward
[X] - Reinforcements Have Arrived - The Vice-Marshall of Dale is a woman named Belinda Hornvale, who also serves them abroad as an agent. For now, however, she will be remaining local, as the crisis brews up around the province. Developing a working relationship with the Vice-Marshall and her office may prove crucial to running the pointier end of your fight with the local Teuvians. [55% base chance, 200g, Martial/Diplomacy test, gain access to Dale martial assets, unlocks new options]
-[X] Lea Tsu
[X] - Sweet-Talk - Send your agent to the Court of the Minor House to present your credentials from the Dale and spin a cover-story of Vincennes agents that you are tracking down. Less likely to be believed, but also less likely to ruffle feathers. [40% base chance, 1 turn, Get change in level of cooperation in a given Minor House upward by 1 level (None->Grudging->Full)]
-[X] Thane
-[X] Audrey Suarez
[X] - What Shall We Talk About? - There are already Teuvian followers in the dungeon at Garden Castle, just cooling their heels and waiting for some earnest sort to come along to talk to them. Perhaps if you go cure them of their loneliness, all sorts of secrets might fall out? [50% base chance, 0g, conduct interrogations of Teuvian-captives already held by House Dale, may gain information]
-[X] Janie Tellar
[X] - Black Cats - Superstition and belief in the old powers of the land in many ways appear to have opened the door to a ready acceptance of Teuvian missionaries. But why? What is it about these old traditions that lends itself to Teuv? More importantly, if you can find out which traditions have become particularly tied into Teuv, you will have a number of leads to follow. [50% base chance, 500g, learn about the old lore of Arbalen, gain leads on Teuv groups]
-[X] Candice Kettleblack
[X] - Request Aid - You aren't in this complete alone. Powerful forces are arrayed behind you, able to offer aid if you can make your case for more resources. There are a number of things you can ask for, such as...
-[X] An Additional Agent - This is a bigger job than expected, perhaps you can call in an extra pair of trusted hands? [20% base chance, request an additional agent from Court at Harper] (This chance will increase each turn, will pop an option up to the next main turn or mid-turn to pick a candidate from your existing list or check through the Minor Houses)

I currently like this. We definitely need another agent.
 
[X] The Tulips Ward

I feel confident about our Diplomacy and our Intrigue, but if we do have to do Stewardship picks (for lack of better options), we need the bonus. Also, a lot of the time it feels like Teuv characters are nobles who then stir up commoners, but merchants kind of sit in the middle and are bypassed, so this is a slightly safer base location.

[X] Lea Tsu - Reinforcements Have Arrived [200g]
[X] Janie Tellar - Hob-Nob [1000g]
[X] Audrey Suarez - Collaboration [200g]
[X] Candice Kettleblack - Songwriters of the Dusk [200g]
[X] Apollo Reynolds - Hovering Boss

Total Cost: 200+1000+200+200=1600g

We're operating in someone else's backyard with their knowledge, so the most important thing to do is immediately introduce ourselves and set up communication and cooperation links. Not only should they know the area better (which we can then apply an outside viewpoint and our own skills to) but it'll avoid them being pissed off at us doing our own thing and hopefully any "friendly" fire at our agents getting unknowingly entangled with theirs.

The obvious two picks there are Reinforcements Have Arrived and Collaboration. If there had been a specific action for the Justice, I would've taken that too. As for who is doing those, Lea obviously takes one. I slot Audrey in the other because I need Janie elsewhere.

After that, get the lay of the land of the nobles, take advantage of the fact that many from the Minors will be coming in to save effort and time. This is a noble event, so we need the other noble here (Janie), who should have the Diplo to work this.

Afterwards, we're the Magic house, we're going to play to our strengths. I'll err on the side of caution here and decide not to have Candice directly investigating the Teuv thing (Janie can take it next turn probably), so she takes the other Magic option. Getting info on Veronica Nils would be a sweet bonus but I'll not count on it. For now just feeling them out is sufficient. (If people feel strongly enough, I'm willing to be risky and swap to the Teuv action but eh.)

There's nothing useful for Apollo to do right now as we really don't have any other stellar Courtiers waiting back home, we don't need the money yet (and really need it in the main turn), and none of the other options are appropriate, so he Hovers.
 
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I find throwing a vote into the ring, even one not X'ed in, does wonders
Alright, so I just need to add a vote- ... wait. This plan has stumbled into an obstacle!

Edit: My plan would probably have been terrible anyway, after all, I did the plan for the Tranquility pirates at Nune Reef :V

Edit 2: By the way, if people had questions about Arbalen/setting that would be IC information, feel free to ask @Macchiato and me!
 
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[X] Audrey Suarez -- Justice League
[X] Janie Tellar - Collaboration
[X] Lea Tsu - Reinforcements Have Arrived
[X] Candice Kettleback - Songwriters of the Dusk
[X] Apollo - Hovering Boss
[X] The Carnation Ward

This is my finalized vote then. I decided on hovering boss for Apollo as given the other important choices I'm taking which will presumably have plenty of subrolls, the bonus on them would be grateful. Carnation ward as I see this as being intrigue heavy for our force of agents here, with the other participants having much greater independence than we see normally playing as a major house that's the ruler of Sartier.
 
Okay, time to update the plans list in the OP

Edit: and done!

I'm interested by the split decision of the plan-makers for the home base, with each of the three options getting at least one nomination.

And a reasonable spread of actions being selected too, although hopefully people will get more varied ideas with the next couple turns.
 
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[X] The Tulips Ward

[X] Lea Tsu - Reinforcements Have Arrived [200g]
[X] Janie Tellar - Hob-Nob [1000g]
[X] Audrey Suarez - Collaboration [200g]
[X] Candice Kettleblack - Songwriters of the Dusk [200g]
[X] Apollo Reynolds - Hovering Boss
 
On a side note, @OneirosTheWriter, I'm going to take a contrary note and ask you to keep the magic research system you have currently. I like it and I feel that it actually pretty accurately represents the rather... hit and miss reality of research in the real world. Edit it to include a progressive bonus to roll after each failed roll but I would ask you to keep it.

Ohh and I'm voting for
[X] Spectrum.

I'd make my own but I'm busy atm.
 
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On a side note, @OneirosTheWriter, I'm going to take a contrary note and ask you to keep the magic research system you have currently. I like it and I feel that it actually pretty accurately represents the rather... hit and miss reality of research in the real world. Edit it to include a progressive bonus to roll after each failed roll but I would ask you to keep it.
Yeah, that's the fix I mentioned if one wanted to keep the system. Also probably percentages need to go up (temporarily until tech advances) as tech everywhere goes up and spreads, or as events influence the individual researchers, and so on.
Ohh and I'm voting for [X] Spectrum.
Can you fix it to make that at the start of the line? We don't get enough traffic that we can't hand tally but I don't want you to have a missed vote because someone just used a program.
 
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"We are here to fight Teuv and keep them from Sartier," replies Apollo. "Symphony Antonia impressed on me: that is our only object. If you trust us in nothing else, trust us in that."

Only object? I think you meant objective?

The man nods to them. "I was investigating the mists that were growing ever thicker and fiercer, especially in the highlands," he began. "And we made the discovery that there mists map to the presence of those who wield the power of Teuv. The lands of House Laine, in particular, where the Vincennes ravaged last year, have been enveloped by these mists."

"that there mists map"? I'm thinking "that these mists map".

Only just got around to reading this update.
 
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@Macchiato @OneirosTheWriter What's known about how Capo feels about their vassals Dale, especially in regards to their rivalry with Vincennes? Any similarities to Tellar's view of Vincennes?
All of greater Carentan (that is, Capo and their two vassals Dale and Antilles) are known to be quite closely knit at the moment. Having only two vassals houses instead of three like the Tellar or Sonissimmo helps drive a sense of "hang together or hang separately". So although there is some exasperation at the carry-on, and Lucas would have been wrathful for at least a while over Lana throwing herself at the feet of the Tellar Symphony despite their best efforts to protect her, diplomatic ties between the three Houses remain strong.

EDIT: LAST HOUR BEFORE VOTE CLOSES
 
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Last chance, anyone want to make the case to me that I should swap Candice's Magic assignment to the Teuv research one instead of Soothsingers? The Soothsingers one does have a higher chance of failure. Not -that- high, but it's still there. (Lack of good Councilor/Symphony support, even if Candice is a pretty good Magic agent.) Of course, the Teuv research one may be riskier for her to do, which is why I didn't have her doing it...tradeoffs!
 
Okay, and VOTE IS CLOSED.

Edit: Four votes for Spectrum seems to have won:

[X] The Tulips Ward

[X] Lea Tsu - Reinforcements Have Arrived [200g]
[X] Janie Tellar - Hob-Nob [1000g]
[X] Audrey Suarez - Collaboration [200g]
[X] Candice Kettleblack - Songwriters of the Dusk [200g]
[X] Apollo Reynolds - Hovering Boss

Total Cost: 200+1000+200+200=1600g
 
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