[X] Information-Gathering
Romance Of The Three Kingdoms Quest
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Possibly without an officer to direct them they just moved in scattered bunches, getting picked off like a Jurassic Park movie.
[X] Information-Gathering
Leingod
Immaculate Blooming Lotus
[X] Information-Gathering
We are officially in semi-dangerous territory. It's probably not serious enough that an ambush on the way to Shangbang is likely, but it's definitely within the realms of possibility, though I doubt a force large enough to threaten 50,000 soldiers could have slipped this far in without being noticed and commented on. Still, always best to be informed.
We are officially in semi-dangerous territory. It's probably not serious enough that an ambush on the way to Shangbang is likely, but it's definitely within the realms of possibility, though I doubt a force large enough to threaten 50,000 soldiers could have slipped this far in without being noticed and commented on. Still, always best to be informed.
- Location
- United States
I'm more interested in hopefully hearing about the local administrators. If we're lucky we might hear about a honest person whose trying to do his best and had been exiled to some unimportant city position. The rebellion never really dies in the far northwest in Wu Wei (Xi Liang). So it would be great if we could leave someone there after we mop up everything. Historically Ma Teng takes over that region and he's neutral during the coalition era but ends up backing the Dong Zhuo faction after Dong Zhuo is killed.
overmind
Ruler of the Swarm
Do you know of any famous figures in the are around this time? Perhaps we can try and recruit them.
Leingod
Immaculate Blooming Lotus
I think since we're going more by the novel than actual history, he's going to be more closely aligned with the Guandong Army, take part in the Girdle Decree against Cao Cao, etc.
Pang De might be around and old enough to participate, but his birth date isn't known, so I can't be sure. He started working for Ma Teng in 191-92, though, so that might be a good hint.
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- United States
Not really, I'd be fine with non-historical Empireplayer-made characters to be honest. If we're going down the route of a 4th factions there's no reason why we shouldn't have an original spin on things. I'll also be sad if we're reduced to pouching named characters there's no reason why we can't find another original character like Li Jian.
Huh so he is. His stats are 82-80-51-59-89. Not the greatest politics for a potential governor of Xiliang but since it's a border region it's probably acceptable to put a more militaristic individual in charge. It's be nice if we can find him while he's still a low-ranked foot soldier or lieutenant that way we can slowly cultivate him as a loyal subordinate.
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- They/Them
Yeah, I think a few named characters in our faction could be fine, but we should meet interesting OCs too 
Leingod
Immaculate Blooming Lotus
He's half-Qiang (his father lived among the Qiang for years and married a Qiang woman). He's got a lot more credit with the barbarian tribes than anyone else in the Han, which is a big part of why he was made Governor. His actions in this very same rebellion (in RL and the novel), his Qiang blood and his descent from Ma Yuan (one of the Han Dynasty's best and most famous generals) meant he had a lot of credit with both the Qiang tribes and the Han, so he was the natural choice for Governor, political skills aside (and his aren't bad, just average).
overmind
Ruler of the Swarm
I think that if we are forming our own faction then we should use alreeady established characters instead of using new OC's. As a rule I prefer quests that use the already existing characters instead of creating new ones.
Chargone
Invisable operator
- Location
- New Zealand
I'm of the opinion that a mix is best. Skilled individuals are skilled individuals, but under different circumstances, diferent individuals act in different ways. So some historically significant individuals might end up being less awesome simply because their awesome moments don't come up, some bit charqcters in the novel might do great things. And some individuals who were never mentioned only due to lack of opertunity to shine may rise to prominence. All of these things should happen at least a bit. More so as time goes on. But all those historic characters are still around (untill/unless they die) of course.
- Location
- Somewhere
I'm curious if there is anything that we can do to honour Huangfu Song and actually show that we're carrying on his legacy.
An example would be changing Li to Huangfu and carrying on his family name and stuff, but I don't know if we can actually do that, plus the Eunuch's and co. are still around so that'd be a bad move to pull currently unless we were openly against them.. plus it might annoy/upset our father and family.. Then again our family line doesn't end with us since we have a brother so...
An example would be changing Li to Huangfu and carrying on his family name and stuff, but I don't know if we can actually do that, plus the Eunuch's and co. are still around so that'd be a bad move to pull currently unless we were openly against them.. plus it might annoy/upset our father and family.. Then again our family line doesn't end with us since we have a brother so...
Leingod
Immaculate Blooming Lotus
Erect a memorial somewhere, cry and wail at his funeral, look for any relatives he might have (aged mother, young nephew, etc.) and take care of them, slaughter every eunuch in Luoyang and offer their heads as sacrifices to his grave (yes that's a thing here), take control of the capital and force the emperor to posthumously pardon him of all crimes, restore his rank and maybe make him a Marquis or something, etc...
About the eunuchs what about taking a page from those statues of people that screwed over Yue Fei and have statues of the twelve attendants kneeling before Huangfu Song, Lu Zhi and Zhu Jun?
- Location
- United States
He does have a nephew Huangfu Li, the guy must have had the worst luck in China because he ended up with the job of trying to convince Dong Zhuo's subordinates not to be dicks to the Emperor. He failed and got exiled to some backwater frontier province by the Emperor to keep them from killing him for the rest of the Three Kingdoms period.
Leingod
Immaculate Blooming Lotus
Oh, and have Lu Zhi, Zhu Jun & Cai Yong reappointed to their old posts.
Indeed. He's a good... TVTropes calls them "OC Stand-Ins." Since he barely appears and has no actual characterization, he can basically be whatever the story needs him to be, so he could be a good officer to get if we want to feel less like we're just poaching guys from other people.
Indeed. He's a good... TVTropes calls them "OC Stand-Ins." Since he barely appears and has no actual characterization, he can basically be whatever the story needs him to be, so he could be a good officer to get if we want to feel less like we're just poaching guys from other people.
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- United States
So... I did some more searching and Huangfu Song's nephew is pretty ballsy:
But Huangfu Li would not be satisfied with failure. As he went out of the camp, he cried loudly, "Li Jue will not obey the Emperor's command. He will kill his prince to set up himself!"
Counselor Hu Miao tried to shut Huangfu Li's mouth, saying, "Do not utter such words. You will only bring hurt upon yourself!"
But Huangfu Li shrieked at him also, saying, "You also are an officer of state, and yet you even back up the rebel. When the prince is put to shame, the minister dies. That is our code. If it be my lot to suffer death at the hands of Li Jue, so be it!"
And Huangfu Li maintained a torrent of abuse. The Emperor heard of the incident, called in Huangfu Li and sent him away to his own country Xiliang.
Now more than half of Li Jue's troops were from Xiliang, and he had also the assistance of the Qiangs, the northern tribespeople beyond the border. When Huangfu Li spread that Li Jue was a rebel and so were those who helped him, and that there would be a day of heavy reckoning, those stories disturbed the soldiers.
Ballsy indeed he would make a good assistant who would tell the hard truths.
On the War March Part 3
EmpirePlayer
Anyone need some chaos?
- Location
- Penang
You have your men gather local information. A good portion turned out to be useless junk. However, some interesting info is collaborated by multiple sources.
North of Han Xing, there is currently a small bandit camp. They pilfer and take what they want, and the locals fear them.
Likewise, in the Chi Yang-Bei Di route lies a small rebel camp. They are currently sedate, and are inactive.
There are rumors that in Mei, there is a person of some note there.
Sun Jian's and Dong Zhuo's armies have arrived at Chang An. The locals have taken note that the Han have sent large amounts of soldiers to Liang Province now. Both initially planned on resting here for a day or two before marching onwards to Shang Bang.
You have also notified them of the information you've gathered, and now Dong Zhuo will still travel the Chang An-Shang Bang route, while Sun Jian will take whatever route you will not take that encounters rebels or bandits.
War March Turn:
March Turns Take 7 Days. Manoeuvring turns take 1 Day.
Each recruitment action costs 2,500 Cash. Establishment cost of 7,000 for Average/Novice/Average Division. Both take 7 Days.
Information gathering takes 7 Days.
Current date: 3rd Year of Central Stability, (186 A.D.) September 4th, Late-Fall
Li Jian's Army
Commander: Li Jian
Second-in-command: Xu Huang
Money: 12,500 Cash
Supplies: 20.8 (0.6 Per Week, 2.0 Supplies arrive every two weeks if the unit is not cut off/surrounded/sieged)
Current Location: Chang An
Troops:
1st Li Jian's Footmen
10,265/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average (+0.5)
Loyalty: High (+0.5)
2nd Li Jian's Footmen
10,360/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average (+0.5)
Loyalty: Fanatical
1st Li Jian's Bowmen
10,121/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average
Loyalty: High
3rd Li Jian's Bowmen
10,000/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average (+0.5)
Loyalty: Fanatical
1st Li Jian's Horsemen
10,870/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average
Loyalty: High
Four Thousand of Li (Footmen/Bowmen)
3,986/5,000 Men (Can only take men from Units which are Ecstatic, Veteran/Elite and Fanatical)
Morale: Ecstatic (Locked)
Skill: Elite
Loyalty: Fanatical (Locked)
Troop Cap: 80,000 Men
Current Orders: Rendezvous with the local troops at Shang Bang by October 1st.
Routes to Shang Bang:
Chang An-Shang Bang
Chang An-Mei-Shang Bang
Chang An-Han Xing-Shang Bang
Chang An-Chi Yang-Shang Bang
Chang An-Mei-Han Xing-Shang Bang
Chang An-Chi Yang-Han Xing-Shang Bang
Actions:
[ ] March on Shang Bang.
[ ] March on Mei. (4 Days)
[ ] March on Han Xing. (4 Days)
[ ] March on Chi Yang. (4 Days)
-[ ] March at Half-Speed (Halves Supply Use)
-[ ] March at Full Speed (Full Supply Use)
-[ ] March at Double Speed (Double Supply Use, Morale >Average only)
[ ] Establish new unit of: (Foot, Bow, Horse)
[ ] Information-Gathering
[ ] Write-In
North of Han Xing, there is currently a small bandit camp. They pilfer and take what they want, and the locals fear them.
Likewise, in the Chi Yang-Bei Di route lies a small rebel camp. They are currently sedate, and are inactive.
There are rumors that in Mei, there is a person of some note there.
Sun Jian's and Dong Zhuo's armies have arrived at Chang An. The locals have taken note that the Han have sent large amounts of soldiers to Liang Province now. Both initially planned on resting here for a day or two before marching onwards to Shang Bang.
You have also notified them of the information you've gathered, and now Dong Zhuo will still travel the Chang An-Shang Bang route, while Sun Jian will take whatever route you will not take that encounters rebels or bandits.
War March Turn:
March Turns Take 7 Days. Manoeuvring turns take 1 Day.
Each recruitment action costs 2,500 Cash. Establishment cost of 7,000 for Average/Novice/Average Division. Both take 7 Days.
Information gathering takes 7 Days.
Current date: 3rd Year of Central Stability, (186 A.D.) September 4th, Late-Fall
Li Jian's Army
Commander: Li Jian
Second-in-command: Xu Huang
Money: 12,500 Cash
Supplies: 20.8 (0.6 Per Week, 2.0 Supplies arrive every two weeks if the unit is not cut off/surrounded/sieged)
Current Location: Chang An
Troops:
1st Li Jian's Footmen
10,265/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average (+0.5)
Loyalty: High (+0.5)
2nd Li Jian's Footmen
10,360/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average (+0.5)
Loyalty: Fanatical
1st Li Jian's Bowmen
10,121/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average
Loyalty: High
3rd Li Jian's Bowmen
10,000/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average (+0.5)
Loyalty: Fanatical
1st Li Jian's Horsemen
10,870/10,000 Men
Morale: Ecstatic
Skill: Average
Loyalty: High
Four Thousand of Li (Footmen/Bowmen)
3,986/5,000 Men (Can only take men from Units which are Ecstatic, Veteran/Elite and Fanatical)
Morale: Ecstatic (Locked)
Skill: Elite
Loyalty: Fanatical (Locked)
Troop Cap: 80,000 Men
Current Orders: Rendezvous with the local troops at Shang Bang by October 1st.
Routes to Shang Bang:
Chang An-Shang Bang
Chang An-Mei-Shang Bang
Chang An-Han Xing-Shang Bang
Chang An-Chi Yang-Shang Bang
Chang An-Mei-Han Xing-Shang Bang
Chang An-Chi Yang-Han Xing-Shang Bang
Actions:
[ ] March on Shang Bang.
[ ] March on Mei. (4 Days)
[ ] March on Han Xing. (4 Days)
[ ] March on Chi Yang. (4 Days)
-[ ] March at Half-Speed (Halves Supply Use)
-[ ] March at Full Speed (Full Supply Use)
-[ ] March at Double Speed (Double Supply Use, Morale >Average only)
[ ] Establish new unit of: (Foot, Bow, Horse)
[ ] Write-In
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