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Romance Of The Three Kingdoms Quest

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So a bandit camp and a rebel camp? Most likely bandits would be less fierce but have some loot while the rebels may have some intel.
 
[X] March on Mei. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Half-Speed (Halves Supply Use)

Thinks it's worth a shot seeing this person of note since as a local recruiting him will give us a better idea of how to deal with the rebellion.
 
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Wonder if we should use double speed, to get to Mei and that Bandit Camp quickly. Right now, we have the supplies for it.
 
[X] March on Mei. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Double Speed (Double Supply Use, Morale >Average only)

We have everything we need to do so, and it makes up for taking the longer rout.
 
[X] March on Han Xin. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Double Speed (Double Supply Use, Morale >Average only)
 
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[] March on Mei. (4 Days)
-[] March at Half-Speed (Halves Supply Use)

I want to move quickly because chances are if these are like most bandits, the moment they hear about any real resistance (50,000 trained soldiers), they'll get up and run with their loot. And I want to be able to return some of it to the locals while confiscating their supplies and selling their equipment. Mei is on the way so we might as well stop by to meet the local notable, if only to introduce ourselves.
 
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[X] March on Mei. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Half-Speed (Halves Supply Use)
-[X] Feign disorganization and discontent among the men.
-[X] Spread rumors about the commander being ill and replaced by a lackey of the Eunuchs.
 
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Lucienz said:
I want to move quickly because chances are if these are like most bandits, the moment they hear about any real resistance (50,000 trained soldiers), they'll get up and run with their loot. And I want to be able to return some of it to the locals while confiscating their supplies and selling their equipment. Mei is on the way so we might as well stop by to meet the local notable, if only to introduce ourselves.
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Speaking of loot, I get the feeling that Dong Zhuo got the horse Red Hare sometime during the Liang rebellion as loot so there maybe a chance to snag it before he does.
 
[X] March on Mei. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Half-Speed (Halves Supply Use)

Guys, a forced march is tiresome and needlessly drains the fighting capabilities of our men. We're just moving on Mei here. And when we arrive there from Chang An in two days instead of the customary four days, the bandits will take note and know that our force has higher than average morale and capabilities. So best to take our time arriving at Mei, creating the impression of a ponderous force, and then make a forced march from the city to take the bandits by surprise.
 
Let's See:
September 4th: Chang An
September 12th: Mei (half speed)
September 13th: Han Xin (double time)
September 17th: Shang Bang
Giving us about two weeks to recruit a new unit and then drill it.
Oct 1st: Shang Bang

According to EmpirePlayer we have "operational liberty, with the only superior being the Theater Commander." So if we wanted to I suppose we could be enormous jerks and simply chill in Shang Bang, recruit two full units and wait until our troops are perfectly up to our standards before we move but I think it'll be more interesting if we just recruit one unit of soldiers and absorb defeated rebel forces to make up another new unit as we march across Liang province. If we get a reputation for treating honorable former enemies well, we'll probably be able to get people to surrender more easily. It'll also let us scatter our followers across Liang province when we have to leave and go back to Hu Lao. Maybe instead of drilling these Liang units we should instead focus on fulfilling their miscellaneous needs first? Since we're going to have to retire them anyway when we go back it's more beneficial for us to have thousands of fanatically loyal former soldiers across Liang rather then well-drilled peasants with only average loyalty? What do you guys think?
 
Or, we can march at double speed to mei, rest the troops while we do our thing there, then normaolnormao or half speed to deal with the bandits so our troops aren't exhausted when we get into combat (might make them over confident thinking we did something dim and exhausted our dudes if we move at half there), then normal or double to shang bang, where our troops can rest again while we sort out another unit or two and gather info. Before setting out again.

Entering combat tired from a forced march would be terrible.
 
And then the bandits scatter because troops which can maintain that pace are clearly a threat. A force moving at a slovenly rate, on the other hand, is probably not going to take initiative against them. Especially if we dress the vote up by having our troops feign being disorganized, express discontent once we arrive at Mei, spread rumors about how Li Jian had to leave due to sickness and was replaced by his no-name second, so on.

Entering combat off a forced march is a calculated risk. The opportunity is to leverage surprise to make up for any tiredness. It worked out really well at Stamford Bridge, among various other examples I could make. And bandits are, by definition, not a disciplined armed force. The risk isn't fighting them, the risk is them scattering at our approach.
 
So, yeah...

[X] March on Mei. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Half-Speed (Halves Supply Use)
-[X] Feign disorganization and discontent among the men.
-[X] Spread rumors about the commander being ill and replaced by a lackey of the Eunuchs.
 
What about those rumours of some Person of Note in Mei? If we're too slow and act disorganized, whoever he/she is likely won't meet with us. I'd put that at higher priority than bandits.

Besides, aren't bandits likely to leave, period, if any large force happens to be nearby? There's 54,000 of our men, I doubt they'll want to stay at all, even if they're supposedly led by an incompetent.
 
Maybe we can prepare a lightning raid on the bandits around night using our Calvary. Shock and awe plus surprise would rout that small camp depending on the terrain.
 
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Mei is also on the route to Shang Bing. Assigning one of the three routes to one of the three armies moving to Shang Bing would be expected. You don't want to cram too many troops under different commanders on the same road. If the bandits have no reason to suspect the force is coming for them, especially, they'll take their time to scatter. Even wait and see if it is necessary. Which is why we then set out at double-pace from Mei to catch them by surprise.

As for the "person of quality" then Li Jian can simply go see him in person, at night, and explain the ruse. If the person of quality doesn't see it when Li shows up and introduces himself.

Or go visit after dealing with the bandits. Our subordinates can handle the army long enough for Li to make a brief visit, and a small group of horsemen can move a lot faster than an army can.
 
[X] March on Han Xin. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Double Speed (Double Supply Use, Morale >Average only)

Hmmm, actually I'm going to vote for this. The way I see it, it doesn't matter how disorderly an army looks or even if the army doesn't seem like it's "going" to head in your direction. As a bandit, there's no reason for me to stay and I've probably already had enough time to pick the surrounding area clean. The moment I hear 54,000 troops under Li Jian (the slayer of the Zhangs), and another army under Sun Jian (the bandit killer) are going west towards me, is the moment I start packing up and running east. There are after all 3 armies, just because one of them doesn't look very good doesn't mean I'm not going to be scared shit****.

I think I'm inclined to do what Cavalier has suggested which is after force-marching into Han Xin in two days (not nearly slow enough for the bandits to pack up all their loot and get away). I'll vote that we leave the main force under Xu Huang with orders to begin marching to Shang Bang. In the meantime we'll take the cavalry and make a quick stop in Mei to meet the local notable before catching up with our army. Honestly there's so many different commanders running around, chances are unless we distinguish ourselves, this guy won't just jump up and join us. The fact that he's still unemployed despite the rebellion having gone on for at least a year shows that he's waiting for a certain someone.

We have a way better chance of recruiting him if we were the first commander into battle, moved faster than anyone ever imagined, defeated a bandit army that's been troubling the locals for a while and then with our armor still bloodied because we've been moving so fast, we show up at this guy's house and ask for a meeting. I'd personally be very moved that this very talented commander considered me so important that he was willing to make a personal stop to my house even as he doesn't neglect his duties as an officer and dealt with the bandit problem first.
 
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[X] March on Mei. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Half-Speed (Halves Supply Use)
-[X] Feign disorganization and discontent among the men.
-[X] Spread rumors about the commander being ill and replaced by a lackey of the Eunuchs
 
[X] March on Mei. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Half-Speed (Halves Supply Use)
-[X] Feign disorganization and discontent among the men.
-[X] Spread rumors about the commander being ill and replaced by a lackey of the Eunuchs.


This plan is good,We will make them understimate us with Eunuch lackey,But I think our fame will expose us ads the guy that handily kill half yellow turban leader.
 
X] March on Han Xin. (4 Days)
-[X] March at Double Speed (Double Supply Use, Morale >Average only)

I think we're getting too complicated here. K.I.S.S. is used by the military for a reason. Smash the bandits quickly, then have our troops rest while moving slowly towards our objective. I'm not understanding why everyone is so obsessed with a rumor about a cool guy, but we could take the cavalry to check in and then catch back up with our troops.
 
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