Putting the Craft in Warcraft

[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] We might not like the prank but if what the guard/instructor says is true then it is probably for Leon's own best - you might not be a warrior yourself but even you realise that overestimating yourself in combat due to arrogance is likely to end badly. So go along with it.
[X] Tools v2.0 + Lanterns of Light
-[X] Much of what we have done recently, and much of what we will do in the future, involves inlaying metals into other metals and other fine and delicate work. So with that in mind create our own set of custom tools for the job as well as a custom satchel to store and carry them with, something capable of protecting them and any future tools we make from damage due to water, wind or being dropped.
--[X] If there is time over after the prank and making the tools(as well as our other duties) go talk to Joyce about her opinion on our newest idea. More specifically a gold/truesilver inlayed(or even entirely made of gold depending) lantern attuned to light, enchanted/imbued in such a way so as to spread light energy like an aura to cover an area, and thus many people at once with its grace. Ask her to pass the idea to her own superiors for their opinion as well.
---[X] If there is any time left to try and make a prototype then do so.
 
I do not appreciate someone using an Ad Hominem and then denying it.

For your benefit, I point out the following:

You have a lot of work now. All of it repair work. The knight's armor is finished off at the beginning of the month, where you assist the leatherworkers and other Blacksmiths in adding the finishing touches. This is the easy part. Especially once it's known that gold can be attuned just as well as Truesilver. Gold is far more plentiful, and even better works very well to coat things. It's less durable than you would like, but everything has a trade off.

Remember that the basis of our argument was that you insisted that (paraphrased):
-'the King was a giant idiot that assigned Waylan an exclusive task of armoring dozens of knights alone and that siad jobs would forevermore remain uncompleted unless Waylan personally did them'.

In turn I insisted that (paraphrased):
-'the King was not being a giant idiot and assigning did not assign Waylan armor repair jobs for dozens of knights alone and that they would be completed in time regardless of Waylan being involved'.

There were in fact other smith's handling the repair work on the knights' armor, as the main basis of our argument was that which of us was correct on the general competence level of the Kingdom, I can say that I 'won' for all the nonpoints that is worth.

What I want you to take from this is that irony is a powerful force in the universe and that you need more practice in not being its instrument. We all make errors, its best to learn from them.
 
Thinking about it, I still disagree with the prank on principle. Unlike someone who is normally arrogant, Leon is legitimately better than everyone else. And to undermine his passion with under handed tricks is pointless from everything but an OOC perspective.

I mean if someone challenge us to make awesome stuff and drug us before teh challenge itself, I'll be pretty piss because it's one thing to do it by making yourself better (say with using better equips) and another to do it by making sure I'm not working at my best

[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] Don't do the prank and warn Leon about it.
[X] Tools v2.0 + Lanterns of Light
-[X] Much of what we have done recently, and much of what we will do in the future, involves inlaying metals into other metals and other fine and delicate work. So with that in mind create our own set of custom tools for the job as well as a custom satchel to store and carry them with, something capable of protecting them and any future tools we make from damage due to water, wind or being dropped.
--[X] If there is time over after the prank and making the tools(as well as our other duties) go talk to Joyce about her opinion on our newest idea. More specifically a gold/truesilver inlayed(or even entirely made of gold depending) lantern attuned to light, enchanted/imbued in such a way so as to spread light energy like an aura to cover an area, and thus many people at once with its grace. Ask her to pass the idea to her own superiors for their opinion as well.
---[X] If there is any time left to try and make a prototype then do so.
 
[X] Pikachu

Yeah, I agree about the prank. It seems like an asshole thing to do to our friend just because some soldiers are jealous. Plus, I don't really care about the achievements that much.
 
[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] Don't do the prank and warn Leon about it.

instead of 'warning him about the prank' since this will likely make him hate the other troopers, how about we convince him that they have a point and that a soldier is supposed to be a team player. or something along those lines..
 
instead of 'warning him about the prank' since this will likely make him hate the other troopers, how about we convince him that they have a point and that a soldier is supposed to be a team player. or something along those lines..
Something to consider is that they aren't in a team in the first place since you can argue that Leon is not meant to be a soldier who works well with others.

More to the point right now the problem isn't Leon specifically, it's that all the people involve are biased at this prodigy. Yes they said that he's arrogant but it's a second hand accounts that he has a 'swell head' from a biased source. Considering Leon's is literally an Idiot, I find it more likely that his swell head can be cured by a good scowling or is exagerated and either way we can't prove it.

That they are willing to have someone else actually beat Leon rather than themselves says much about how bad an idea this is.

On that point a modification.

[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] Don't do the prank and warn Leon about it.
--[x] Whack him on the head if he's truly that arrogant and scowl him for at least not trying to work with other people (if that is the case)
[X] Tools v2.0 + Lanterns of Light
-[X] Much of what we have done recently, and much of what we will do in the future, involves inlaying metals into other metals and other fine and delicate work. So with that in mind create our own set of custom tools for the job as well as a custom satchel to store and carry them with, something capable of protecting them and any future tools we make from damage due to water, wind or being dropped.
--[X] If there is time over after the prank and making the tools(as well as our other duties) go talk to Joyce about her opinion on our newest idea. More specifically a gold/truesilver inlayed(or even entirely made of gold depending) lantern attuned to light, enchanted/imbued in such a way so as to spread light energy like an aura to cover an area, and thus many people at once with its grace. Ask her to pass the idea to her own superiors for their opinion as well.
---[X] If there is any time left to try and make a prototype then do so.
 
[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] We might not like the prank but if what the guard/instructor says is true then it is probably for Leon's own best - you might not be a warrior yourself but even you realise that overestimating yourself in combat due to arrogance is likely to end badly. So go along with it.
[X] Tools v2.0 + Lanterns of Light
-[X] Much of what we have done recently, and much of what we will do in the future, involves inlaying metals into other metals and other fine and delicate work. So with that in mind create our own set of custom tools for the job as well as a custom satchel to store and carry them with, something capable of protecting them and any future tools we make from damage due to water, wind or being dropped.
--[X] If there is time over after the prank and making the tools(as well as our other duties) go talk to Joyce about her opinion on our newest idea. More specifically a gold/truesilver inlayed(or even entirely made of gold depending) lantern attuned to light, enchanted/imbued in such a way so as to spread light energy like an aura to cover an area, and thus many people at once with its grace. Ask her to pass the idea to her own superiors for their opinion as well.
---[X] If there is any time left to try and make a prototype then do so.
 
[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] We might not like the prank but if what the guard/instructor says is true then it is probably for Leon's own best - you might not be a warrior yourself but even you realise that overestimating yourself in combat due to arrogance is likely to end badly. So go along with it.
[X] Tools v2.0 + Lanterns of Light
-[X] Much of what we have done recently, and much of what we will do in the future, involves inlaying metals into other metals and other fine and delicate work. So with that in mind create our own set of custom tools for the job as well as a custom satchel to store and carry them with, something capable of protecting them and any future tools we make from damage due to water, wind or being dropped.
--[X] If there is time over after the prank and making the tools(as well as our other duties) go talk to Joyce about her opinion on our newest idea. More specifically a gold/truesilver inlayed(or even entirely made of gold depending) lantern attuned to light, enchanted/imbued in such a way so as to spread light energy like an aura to cover an area, and thus many people at once with its grace. Ask her to pass the idea to her own superiors for their opinion as well.
---[X] If there is any time left to try and make a prototype then do so.

He has a thick skull. Only getting his ass kicked by someone he knows can't fight would get through.
Or we could see him get mauled out there.
 
Can't we ask our supervisor for some monetary assistance for our tools? They do make him both more effective and time efficient so it really should be a priority for them and we shouldn't have to pay for them ourselves. Hell, aren't we locked into a multi-year contract so they should easily get sufficient benefit within that time frame especially as we likely have some good will from our completed projects already.
 
Vote tally:
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[x] Train how to fight
[x] Continue working on repairs.
[x] Repair Guard Equipment.
[x] Drink to relax
-[x] Continue meeting Joyce
-[x] Continue meeting Leon
No. of votes: 1
Avalon
[x] Train how to fight
[x] Continue working on repairs. Step up is you have too much free time.
[X]Do Prank
[x] Repair Guard Equipment.
[x] Drink to relax
-[x] Continue meeting Joyce
-[x] Continue meeting Leon
No. of votes: 1
Larekko12
[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] We might not like the prank but if what the guard/instructor says is true then it is probably for Leon's own best - you might not be a warrior yourself but even you realise that overestimating yourself in combat due to arrogance is likely to end badly. So go along with it.
[X] Tools v2.0 + Lanterns of Light
-[X] Much of what we have done recently, and much of what we will do in the future, involves inlaying metals into other metals and other fine and delicate work. So with that in mind create our own set of custom tools for the job as well as a custom satchel to store and carry them with, something capable of protecting them and any future tools we make from damage due to water, wind or being dropped.
--[X] If there is time over after the prank and making the tools(as well as our other duties) go talk to Joyce about her opinion on our newest idea. More specifically a gold/truesilver inlayed(or even entirely made of gold depending) lantern attuned to light, enchanted/imbued in such a way so as to spread light energy like an aura to cover an area, and thus many people at once with its grace. Ask her to pass the idea to her own superiors for their opinion as well.
---[X] If there is any time left to try and make a prototype then do so.
No. of votes: 5
Leoric, veekie, Algalon, TMIoverload, wingstrike96
[X] Request your standard issue medium leather armour.
[X] Join the prank and do the agreed work.
[X] Try to reduce the time required to do the light attunement. Ask Ray for tips if you need help.
No. of votes: 1
Quincy
[X] Pikachu
No. of votes: 5
notmi, butchock, Nianque, Dark Abstraction, Tackyseven
[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] Don't do the prank and warn Leon about it.
--[x] Whack him on the head if he's truly that arrogant and scowl him for at least not trying to work with other people (if that is the case)
[X] Tools v2.0 + Lanterns of Light
-[X] Much of what we have done recently, and much of what we will do in the future, involves inlaying metals into other metals and other fine and delicate work. So with that in mind create our own set of custom tools for the job as well as a custom satchel to store and carry them with, something capable of protecting them and any future tools we make from damage due to water, wind or being dropped.
--[X] If there is time over after the prank and making the tools(as well as our other duties) go talk to Joyce about her opinion on our newest idea. More specifically a gold/truesilver inlayed(or even entirely made of gold depending) lantern attuned to light, enchanted/imbued in such a way so as to spread light energy like an aura to cover an area, and thus many people at once with its grace. Ask her to pass the idea to her own superiors for their opinion as well.
---[X] If there is any time left to try and make a prototype then do so.
No. of votes: 1
Evillevi
 
Technically Evill's vote won here, but the main point of distinction is the prank from what I can tell, and there are more votes for that. :(

Debating a bit on what to do there.
 
As far as pranks go it's fairly mild. Essentially you will be given a practice sword and fight Leon. Normally he would be able to batter you aside since he's basically solid muscle.
 
[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] We might not like the prank but if what the guard/instructor says is true then it is probably for Leon's own best - you might not be a warrior yourself but even you realise that overestimating yourself in combat due to arrogance is likely to end badly. So go along with it.
[X] Tools v2.0 + Lanterns of Light
-[X] Much of what we have done recently, and much of what we will do in the future, involves inlaying metals into other metals and other fine and delicate work. So with that in mind create our own set of custom tools for the job as well as a custom satchel to store and carry them with, something capable of protecting them and any future tools we make from damage due to water, wind or being dropped.
--[X] If there is time over after the prank and making the tools(as well as our other duties) go talk to Joyce about her opinion on our newest idea. More specifically a gold/truesilver inlayed(or even entirely made of gold depending) lantern attuned to light, enchanted/imbued in such a way so as to spread light energy like an aura to cover an area, and thus many people at once with its grace. Ask her to pass the idea to her own superiors for their opinion as well.
---[X] If there is any time left to try and make a prototype then do so.
 
[x] Meet with Leon + do the agreed work.
-[x] We might not like the prank but if what the guard/instructor says is true then it is probably for Leon's own best - you might not be a warrior yourself but even you realise that overestimating yourself in combat due to arrogance is likely to end badly. So go along with it.
[X] Tools v2.0 + Lanterns of Light
-[X] Much of what we have done recently, and much of what we will do in the future, involves inlaying metals into other metals and other fine and delicate work. So with that in mind create our own set of custom tools for the job as well as a custom satchel to store and carry them with, something capable of protecting them and any future tools we make from damage due to water, wind or being dropped.
--[X] If there is time over after the prank and making the tools(as well as our other duties) go talk to Joyce about her opinion on our newest idea. More specifically a gold/truesilver inlayed(or even entirely made of gold depending) lantern attuned to light, enchanted/imbued in such a way so as to spread light energy like an aura to cover an area, and thus many people at once with its grace. Ask her to pass the idea to her own superiors for their opinion as well.
---[X] If there is any time left to try and make a prototype then do so.
 
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