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Project Prometheus (Original Setting Superhero Quest)

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SolarGemX said:
Still 0 clue How he killed Apiary though.
Bitterman has still kept mum on those details.
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My working theory is the SM gave Apiary a power-up and then he got killed by someone during the Defiance Unit's last hurrah. It seems likely that SM power-ups are collected upon in a first in, last out basis and Apiary made an unprecedented number of bodies during the incident which could be indicative of a power-up. That plus Matter Conversion being written in red text, like pintemps power, makes me think she got boosted before her death. SM also seems genuinely regretful about her death, makes me think it wasn't intentional on his part.
 
We saw the clone version to see how it works! SM has to tear out a part of that core that Black Swan saw during their fight, and then the receiver has to swallow/eat that fragment.
 
Hexxart said:
My working theory is the SM gave Apiary a power-up and then he got killed by someone during the Defiance Unit's last hurrah. It seems likely that SM power-ups are collected upon in a first in, last out basis and Apiary made an unprecedented number of bodies during the incident which could be indicative of a power-up. That plus Matter Conversion being written in red text, like pintemps power, makes me think she got boosted before her death. SM also seems genuinely regretful about her death, makes me think it wasn't intentional on his part.
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Very smart theory, my veiew on why he has interest in rosemary is he & she were the most of not only (forgetting the exact time we use within the setting) heteromorphic of any of the heroes active & not because to my knowledge most of the others (to my memory) had transformation as a tag and so had a bit of a fig leaf of not always being in a form many would call monstrous.

SM & Rosemarry in general fits with the question i most think of when I think of monsters

Monsters are tragic beings; they are born too tall, too strong, too heavy, they are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy.
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I know some might have issues with the use of choice in regards to SM but I'd like to say society perceptions & pressures can be very good at making it feel as if there's no choice at all
 
ScorpioSting said:
We saw the clone version to see how it works! SM has to tear out a part of that core that Black Swan saw during their fight, and then the receiver has to swallow/eat that fragment.
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In that case, maybe Apiary could have attempted to matter convert SM's core, unknowingly triggering the power boost. And then SM regenerates and immediately claims Apiary?

Then SM gets all sad that he killed Apiary not through glorious battle but through this dumb power interaction while dead?
 
Suleverf said:
In that case, maybe Apiary could have attempted to matter convert SM's core, unknowingly triggering the power boost. And then SM regenerates and immediately claims Apiary?

Then SM gets all sad that he killed Apiary not through glorious battle but through this dumb power interaction while dead?
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Thad ironically make apiary dying from accident in the fight instead of straight murder.
 
daedalus725 said:
Very smart theory, my veiew on why he has interest in rosemary is he & she were the most of not only (forgetting the exact time we use within the setting) heteromorphic of any of the heroes active & not because to my knowledge most of the others (to my memory) had transformation as a tag and so had a bit of a fig leaf of not always being in a form many would call monstrous.

SM & Rosemarry in general fits with the question i most think of when I think of monsters



I know some might have issues with the use of choice in regards to SM but I'd like to say society perceptions & pressures can be very good at making it feel as if there's no choice at all
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Given that Apiary and SM were probably the two strongest metahuman's on Horizon and they were both highly metamorphic, I could definitely see them striking up an odd friendship, much like he and Mona have now. This is somewhat weakened by the fact that the Apiary (the building) doesn't seem to like him very much.

I would also assume that Apiary accepted the power-up willingly. Remember at the time is was basically Justice Unlimited versus everyone, Rosemary feeling pressed enough that she sought some way to improve her power isn't unreasonable. Especially given JU's tendency to keep secrets from each other.

Mostly, I just can't wrap my head around how a seemingly regretful SM could have killed her otherwise. She had hundreds of bodies shortly before her death. Either she tried to swarm SM and kept throwing bodies at him long after it stopped being effective and didn't bother to keep one in reserve, he specifically hunted down all her bodies before she could make more, or she got reduced to one body and he killed her not knowing that was her last body.

Edit: All of those scenario's either require Apiary making a number of suicidally bad decisions or active malice form SM which doesn't track with him seeming to genuinely regret her death. There's a small window for where it was possible that maybe Apiary was pulling off a heroic sacrifice type move, but it feels like that'd require a pretty contrived situation to occur. Then again the Augur exists.
 
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So many people died all at once and it's only been five months in-universe! Plus you keep outmaneuvering your enemies and making them trying to get you in different ways.
 
Bitterman said:
So many people died all at once and it's only been five months in-universe! Plus you keep outmaneuvering your enemies and making them trying to get you in different ways.
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Yup weve atleast managed to keep big fires from getting started again.

NID getting flooded with G9 or an open war between Powers vs JU would cause even more damage than having to deal with Crusade.
 
ScorpioSting said:
We saw the clone version to see how it works! SM has to tear out a part of that core that Black Swan saw during their fight, and then the receiver has to swallow/eat that fragment.
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Yeah, and that was very cool, but what happens if someone tries to spit it out?

Bitterman said:
Plus you keep outmaneuvering your enemies and making them trying to get you in different ways.
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These Justice Unlimited motherfuckers were on the ropes, and then I blink and theres dozens of them crawling out of the woodworks.
 
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