We're already 2 for 3 of Evil skipping a generation and between Marispan's recent dickery, both her siblings being around to try to convince her, Louise's "true plan", and basically Eleanore's entire life, I'm pretty sure that Eleanore will end up on Louise's team.

If only so we can nab the achievement for making both of Louise's sisters into lieutenants.

Also who does Eleanore have a beef with? Cus I can only think of there being some strain between her and Catt for the whole vampire thing and maybe our new spymistress.
 
"Thank you. So I think I can arrange a hunting accident for him. It'd probably be safer once it's known you're pregnant," Louise said, recalling sections from Gnarl's books on political assassinations. Things were going better than expected! She wasn't stammering at all! "He'll be bed-ridden and probably almost certainly not dead, but we should consider the risk of my asset… um, hitting him too hard."
... this plan sounds really familiar...

Didn't Catt come home and suggest this after joining the book club? Who's actually profiting here?
 
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... this plan sounds really familiar...

Didn't Catt come home and suggest this after joining the book club? Who's actually profiting here?

*facepalm*

It sounds familiar because its exactly what Catt did to one of the members of the book club.

Also did you REALLY need to quote the entire chapter to ask that?
 
Yes? But Magdalene is described as eighty-three centiElizabeths, so eighty-three percent as mean as Elizabeth rather than eighty percent as mean. Eighty three divided by 100 100 divided by eighty-three is 120.5%, not 125%, right?
Yes, but that was a description of her meanness on that sole occasion. Her average is about eighty centiEleanores (who is Elizabeth?), just as Eleanore's average is one Eleanore.
 
I'm pretty sure that Eleanore will end up on Louise's team.
Because, as is becoming increasingly apparently despite all her protests, Louise is DEFINITELY playing for the other team. (That's not really a problem though, as it appears to be a family tradition. It's important to maintain those!)

So....anyone else think that the Demon possessing Louise's palette swapped clone is going to use Eleanore as a test subject?
*puerile giggle* Oh, it's going to be one of THOSE "Stockholm Syndrome/she looked just like you" team swaps. Gotcha!
 
So with the mention of Love Potions what a love potion incident similar to what happened in Canon would look like, naturally adapted to happen either with Louise's group or the Heroes.
 
Louise froze like a tiny cute thing in the face of something large, fast-moving and heavy charging directly at her. She couldn't say a thing. She mustn't. She didn't want to hear this! She didn't! She didn't!

"I never heard those tales," she muttered into her hands. At some point she'd covered her hands with her face. She could feel her blush through her armoured glove. She was probably glowing.

Aaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhhhh. This is exasperating in the extreme.

I know that it makes sense that she's self-deluding, and she has issues with this and that it's taking her time to figure this out, and all that makes sense, but...

I just want her to get this figured out and get to a point of understanding and acceptance about it. For her to have one honest godamned conversation with someone about it so she can figure out what's going on with her sexuality. Why do there have to keep being so many sensible reasons this is taking her so long. She'll get there eventually I guess.
 
What's there to say about her sexuality? I think it's pretty clear she's a regisexual and the longer it takes for her to realize this the more amusing bits with interactions between her and Henri and Lee and so on and so forth we get.
 
I know that it makes sense that she's self-deluding
... you know, it hadn't actually occurred to me before, but... that's something of a jump to a conclusion there. How do you know she's self-deluding? After all, everyone seems very sure that Evil has bred true in the de la Valliere line, and that Louise and Catt and Eleanore's behaviour comes at least in part from their ancestry. And this is a setting where Magdalene can be... Magdalene, also in part through her de la Valliere blood.

So what exactly makes you so certain that Louise isn't dead on the mark when she thinks it's her de la Valliere ancestry getting confused? After all, she's not going about things like a typical female Overlady, and presumably the Evil instincts for both genders are passed down. So since she's acting like a male Overlord, her natural Evil instincts are prompting her to seduce Henrietta, despite the fact that she's a heterosexual woman (as can be clearly seen from the way that Jess's incubus aura renders her totally non-functional).

Where's the double standard coming from, that Evil behaviour is from her heritage but sexual attraction is innate and not the result of the de la Valliere blood seeing "princess" and getting confused? After all, it's literally only Henrietta that she's attracted to. She hasn't so much as glanced at any other woman - and she's met some very attractive ones - so there's no real evidence that she's bi.
 
Aaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhhhh. This is exasperating in the extreme.

I know that it makes sense that she's self-deluding, and she has issues with this and that it's taking her time to figure this out, and all that makes sense, but...

I just want her to get this figured out and get to a point of understanding and acceptance about it. For her to have one honest godamned conversation with someone about it so she can figure out what's going on with her sexuality. Why do there have to keep being so many sensible reasons this is taking her so long. She'll get there eventually I guess.
I think the AGGH STOP factor in that case was because she was being told rumors about her mother's sex life.
 
... you know, it hadn't actually occurred to me before, but... that's something of a jump to a conclusion there. How do you know she's self-deluding? After all, everyone seems very sure that Evil has bred true in the de la Valliere line, and that Louise and Catt and Eleanore's behaviour comes at least in part from their ancestry. And this is a setting where Magdalene can be... Magdalene, also in part through her de la Valliere blood.

So what exactly makes you so certain that Louise isn't dead on the mark when she thinks it's her de la Valliere ancestry getting confused? After all, she's not going about things like a typical female Overlady, and presumably the Evil instincts for both genders are passed down. So since she's acting like a male Overlord, her natural Evil instincts are prompting her to seduce Henrietta, despite the fact that she's a heterosexual woman (as can be clearly seen from the way that Jess's incubus aura renders her totally non-functional).

Where's the double standard coming from, that Evil behaviour is from her heritage but sexual attraction is innate and not the result of the de la Valliere blood seeing "princess" and getting confused? After all, it's literally only Henrietta that she's attracted to. She hasn't so much as glanced at any other woman - and she's met some very attractive ones - so there's no real evidence that she's bi.
Perhaps Louise has a very specific type of woman she likes? Henriette's body type, at least from my understanding of the descriptions of her in this story, are very much different from the other women Louise has met.
 
... you know, it hadn't actually occurred to me before, but... that's something of a jump to a conclusion there. How do you know she's self-deluding?

Self-delusion has been kind of a heavy part of Louise's Schtick? She pretty consistently makes a rather heavy effort to not think about things when her actions/thoughts/feelings conflict with what her imparted ideas of society say is True. She rationalises pretty heavily about most everything she feels and does.

Where's the double standard coming from, that Evil behaviour is from her heritage but sexual attraction is innate and not the result of the de la Valliere blood seeing "princess" and getting confused? After all, it's literally only Henrietta that she's attracted to. She hasn't so much as glanced at any other woman - and she's met some very attractive ones - so there's no real evidence that she's bi.

I actually seem to recall her being attracted to other women as well through the story and just not letting herself recognise that? I'd honestly have to do a full re-read to check. That and Louise in ZnT is hardly that straight either, but eh on that, I tried watching ZnT but gave up ten seconds in from the egregious anime-plots and fanservice which makes my blood boil.

In any case I think the sexuality - Good/Evil relation is more a case of concepts of Society and Proper Behaviour rather than actual alignment. Louise has kind of extremely narrow social views that were taught to her by Karina and she kind of...doesn't really deal well with things not fitting into her idea of how Society works. Girls having feelings for Girls is not Proper Behaviour and since she is Good she can't have those kinds of feelings, deviation from expected behaviour is Wrong. She doesn't know that...Protestants like Agnes can exist and be on the side of Good. Her mothers exceedingly rigid teachings really haven't done Louise any favours. (Though amusingly Karina certainly actually understands more complexity than she ever told Louise about in that regard, given she certainly knew Cattelya was into women)
 
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