NieR Automata

Also, Yoko Taro said he just really likes butts.

for real?

that's hilarious

well as far as fanservice goes it's not really that egregious

also dear GOD the music is incredible, at least in the tutorial stage (which is WAY easier a second time through with more knowledge of controls/flow of combat), very Panzer Dragoon series (in feeling that it evokes in me)
 
for real?

that's hilarious

well as far as fanservice goes it's not really that egregious

also dear GOD the music is incredible, at least in the tutorial stage (which is WAY easier a second time through with more knowledge of controls/flow of combat), very Panzer Dragoon series (in feeling that it evokes in me)

The music only gets better.
 
for real?

that's hilarious

well as far as fanservice goes it's not really that egregious

also dear GOD the music is incredible, at least in the tutorial stage (which is WAY easier a second time through with more knowledge of controls/flow of combat), very Panzer Dragoon series (in feeling that it evokes in me)
Yoko Taro when asked about 2B's design literally said "I just really like girls".
 
Hey, it's more respectable than the guys who come up with elaborate justifications for pervy character design to avoid admitting actual motive. Looking at you, Quiet and Hideo Kojima.
 
Hey, it's more respectable than the guys who come up with elaborate justifications for pervy character design to avoid admitting actual motive. Looking at you, Quiet and Hideo Kojima.

yea like 2B is obviously sexualized but it's not so egregiously shoved in my face that I'm distracted from gameplay

she really needs a hug, so does that boy android (and some arms and legs)

pls no couple though, she seems like a big sister robot thing
 
Looking at you, Quiet and Hideo Kojima.


Kojima was hardly coy about Quiet being sexy (I mean, come on, he distributed high resolution images specifically to assist cosplayers so I think his intentions were clear) but honestly people are pretty dedicated to thinking that the 'reason' for her outfit is the in-universe explanation that Ocelot gives. There is a storytelling reason: Quiet is a woman that is silenced, turns invisible, will literally die if she puts on clothing, has enormously remarkable abilities and is highly capable, but is widely feared and despised, considered untrustworthy. It amounts to a view on how men view video game heroines - Kojima isn't subtle.

You can talk about the effectiveness of that commentary or the necessity of its components, but he wasn't pretending. The guy's career includes Meryl in her underwear and pin-ups on walls and dreamscape photoshoots with real world models in painted-on jumpsuits among other pieces of deliberate fanservice. If that's all his intention was he wouldn't have bothered with some kind of false justification, he would have just done it.

Anyway, 2B is just good looking and wears an attractive dress so I'm not totally fussed about why Taro did anything in particular, but just throwing it out there, the guy behind Dead or Alive said basically the same thing about his female characters and he's generally thought of as a creep. Maybe it has more to do with liking what the guy is selling rather than any kind of general principle :V
 
Anyway, 2B is just good looking and wears an attractive dress so I'm not totally fussed about why Taro did anything in particular, but just throwing it out there, the guy behind Dead or Alive said basically the same thing about his female characters and he's generally thought of as a creep. Maybe it has more to do with liking what the guy is selling rather than any kind of general principle :V

I think what it is is that 2B could have been anyone and it would have worked, but he flat out says "I like looking at girls" and at the same time she's presenting in a non-sexualized way. It's just "Yea she's sexy, so?" sells better than "She's sexy, see!" when it comes to a character.
 
Kojima was hardly coy about Quiet being sexy (I mean, come on, he distributed high resolution images specifically to assist cosplayers so I think his intentions were clear) but honestly people are pretty dedicated to thinking that the 'reason' for her outfit is the in-universe explanation that Ocelot gives. There is a storytelling reason: Quiet is a woman that is silenced, turns invisible, will literally die if she puts on clothing, has enormously remarkable abilities and is highly capable, but is widely feared and despised, considered untrustworthy. It amounts to a view on how men view video game heroines - Kojima isn't subtle.

You can talk about the effectiveness of that commentary or the necessity of its components, but he wasn't pretending. The guy's career includes Meryl in her underwear and pin-ups on walls and dreamscape photoshoots with real world models in painted-on jumpsuits among other pieces of deliberate fanservice. If that's all his intention was he wouldn't have bothered with some kind of false justification, he would have just done it.

Anyway, 2B is just good looking and wears an attractive dress so I'm not totally fussed about why Taro did anything in particular, but just throwing it out there, the guy behind Dead or Alive said basically the same thing about his female characters and he's generally thought of as a creep. Maybe it has more to do with liking what the guy is selling rather than any kind of general principle :V
Don't forget a very literal "sex appeal is skin deep" visual metaphor.

The real question in when is 2B going to show up in Soul Calibur
 
yea like 2B is obviously sexualized but it's not so egregiously shoved in my face that I'm distracted from gameplay

she really needs a hug, so does that boy android (and some arms and legs)

pls no couple though, she seems like a big sister robot thing
If this isn't shoved in your face I'm not sure what is; maybe Ivy in Soul Calibur IV?
 
If this isn't shoved in your face I'm not sure what is; maybe Ivy in Soul Calibur IV?

I mean it's in my face but it's not "HEY LOOK HER BUTT" in every cutscene and then "comical" stuff happens that showcases that (essentially generic crappy fanservice stuff).

Finally someone else sees that 2B and 9S are like brother and sister, and not a couple. Yayness.

I literally have just beaten the tutorial so my views might evolve but we'll see
 
Kojima was hardly coy about Quiet being sexy (I mean, come on, he distributed high resolution images specifically to assist cosplayers so I think his intentions were clear) but honestly people are pretty dedicated to thinking that the 'reason' for her outfit is the in-universe explanation that Ocelot gives. There is a storytelling reason: Quiet is a woman that is silenced, turns invisible, will literally die if she puts on clothing, has enormously remarkable abilities and is highly capable, but is widely feared and despised, considered untrustworthy. It amounts to a view on how men view video game heroines - Kojima isn't subtle.
That'd be really deep and insightful except for the fact that there are the female sniper Skulls that are creepy bald zombies who nontheless made sure to put on their best makeup and their finest belly-tops and thongs to go into battle, which the camera makes sure you're aware of before you fight therm. Plus Quiet loves to literally shove her whole-ass ass in your goddamn face like a sexually-aggressive greyhound while you're just trying to get some work done on the ACC.

Like, nah son. Kojima just likes him some T&A.

Anyway, 2B is just good looking and wears an attractive dress so I'm not totally fussed about why Taro did anything in particular, but just throwing it out there, the guy behind Dead or Alive said basically the same thing about his female characters and he's generally thought of as a creep. Maybe it has more to do with liking what the guy is selling rather than any kind of general principle :V
I mean it's in my face but it's not "HEY LOOK HER BUTT" in every cutscene and then "comical" stuff happens that showcases that (essentially generic crappy fanservice stuff).
That's the essential difference really. The androids are dressed relatively sexy (yes even the Scanner-types, you know they love them cute bois in Japan) but there's no ecchi-shit. The actual story and cutscenes never once linger on these characters' T&A like that's what you should be crucially invested in at all times. You don't get that one weird minigame where 2B has to fully straddle Jackass and give her a back massage or that one cutscene where 9S trips and falls straight into her titties then accidentally grabs her by the smooth android crotch on the way down. A2's the more overtly sexy-looking one but she's got that 'kinda busted-up prototype' look going where she has blatantly exposed dermal plating that makes her outfit literally just a part of her body which would be enough to stop everyday cowards from cranking it to her. Going upskirt or blowing 9S' Oshkosh B'Gosh boyshorts off his body are never anything but your own damn fault for getting horny.

Finally someone else sees that 2B and 9S are like brother and sister, and not a couple. Yayness.
2B is going to demolish 9S' hips and/or head with her 150kg android ass and there's not a damn thing you can do to stop her.
 
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That's the essential difference really. The androids are dressed relatively sexy (yes even the Scanner-types, you know they love them cute bois in Japan) but there's no ecchi-shit. The actual story and cutscenes never once linger on these characters' T&A like that's what you should be crucially invested in at all times. You don't get that one weird minigame where 2B has to fully straddle Jackass and give her a back massage or that one cutscene where 9S trips and falls straight into her titties then accidentally grabs her by the smooth android crotch on the way down. A2's the more overtly sexy-looking one but she's got that 'kinda busted-up prototype' look going where she has blatantly exposed dermal plating that makes her outfit literally just a part of her body which would be enough to stop everyday cowards from cranking it to her. Going upskirt or blowing 9S' Oshkosh B'Gosh boyshorts off his body are never anything but your own damn fault for getting horny.


2B is going to demolish 9S' hips and/or head with her 150kg android ass and there's not a damn thing you can do to stop her.

i love how you talk about how this game isn't fanservicey and then immediately to shipping.

tis brilliant.
 
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