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MGLN: Yuuno's Record! Slot A [MGLN] (COMPLETE)

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Night said:
To, you know, save Fate, not kill her over a rumor without even really hearing her out. Kind of different!
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Not initially.

You may recal her first real attack on Fate was Flash Impact...which is a flash step boosted attempt at physically clubbing Fate with Raising Heart as a physical impact weapon(which is not converted to nonlethal by magic), with enough power to cause shockwaves on a parry.

Its nothing fundamentally new. Nanoha always used violence quickly on perceived problems, and her targets always managed to be just durable enough not to take permanent danage.
 
veekie said:
You may recal her first real attack on Fate was Flash Impact.
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Immediately after Fate had attacked a giant kitten with Photon Lancer, Full Autofire, and when Nanoha demanded an explanation, Fate had attacked Nanoha first. (In fact, their entire actual first meeting in the series, Nanoha doesn't really get off an offensive strike. So I'm not sure what you're talking about. If you're talking about the movie, I regret to inform you it's an in-universe movie too.)

That's justifiable by any sane standard. What happened here isn't.
 
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Welp, just caught up on a hundred pages of intense waifu morality debates the slow way. Fun times.

Regarding the morality of romancing brainwashed friends, well, they're already brainwashed. They are acting in strange ways, their memories have been blocked off, and in this world they can only love Yuuno romantically, regardless of other feelings they had for other people. It's not like we're going to make it too much worse.
Plus, unless the genre shift impacted things too much, this is running under dating sim mechanics, which means there's a fixed numerical value to how we pass certain events. That's far removed from an organic relationship in any case.
To use a terrible analogy, imagine if someone was mind controlled into spitting on kittens and kicking puppies. However, they'd only kick puppies you provide to them personally, though they'd spit on every adorable baby kitten in sight.
They are free of this mind control once they kick ten puppies.
While making them kick puppies is a terrible thing to do, all the time you delay is a longer period of time they're stuck spitting on kittens. And you plan on getting out eventually anyway, so you're going to have to force them to have to kick ten puppies regardless.
Thus you should suck it up and force them to kick ten adorable puppies as fast as possible, and deal with the fallout afterwards, otherwise they'll be spitting on kittens for longer than they'd need to.
Even if you're aiming to free every girl at once, that just means you should just arrange a puppy soccer match with them all, not delay.

If the puppy kicking soccer match harem extravaganza seriously doesn't fly with you, then stop delaying and just seduce your non-puppy kicking sister already so everyone can go home!

This analogy has gotten away from me. :V
 
Enohthree said:
Welp, just caught up on a hundred pages of intense waifu morality debates the slow way. Fun times.

Regarding the morality of romancing brainwashed friends, well, they're already brainwashed. They are acting in strange ways, their memories have been blocked off, and in this world they can only love Yuuno romantically, regardless of other feelings they had for other people. It's not like we're going to make it too much worse.
Plus, unless the genre shift impacted things too much, this is running under dating sim mechanics, which means there's a fixed numerical value to how we pass certain events. That's far removed from an organic relationship in any case.
To use a terrible analogy, imagine if someone was mind controlled into spitting on kittens and kicking puppies. However, they'd only kick puppies you provide to them personally, though they'd spit on every adorable baby kitten in sight.
They are free of this mind control once they kick ten puppies.
While making them kick puppies is a terrible thing to do, all the time you delay is a longer period of time they're stuck spitting on kittens. And you plan on getting out eventually anyway, so you're going to have to force them to have to kick ten puppies regardless.
Thus you should suck it up and force them to kick ten adorable puppies as fast as possible, and deal with the fallout afterwards, otherwise they'll be spitting on kittens for longer than they'd need to.
Even if you're aiming to free every girl at once, that just means you should just arrange a puppy soccer match with them all, not delay.

If the puppy kicking soccer match harem extravaganza seriously doesn't fly with you, then stop delaying and just seduce your non-puppy kicking sister already so everyone can go home!

This analogy has gotten away from me. :V
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Except that Yuuno is experienced enough to know that a Lost Logia that functions as intended is the exception rather than the rule, so there's an unsafe assumption inherent to that logic.

The assumption that completing a route will actually end the game like its supposed to isn't a safe assumption :V
 
Enohthree said:
Welp, just caught up on a hundred pages of intense waifu morality debates the slow way. Fun times.

Regarding the morality of romancing brainwashed friends, well, they're already brainwashed. They are acting in strange ways, their memories have been blocked off, and in this world they can only love Yuuno romantically, regardless of other feelings they had for other people. It's not like we're going to make it too much worse.
Plus, unless the genre shift impacted things too much, this is running under dating sim mechanics, which means there's a fixed numerical value to how we pass certain events. That's far removed from an organic relationship in any case.
To use a terrible analogy, imagine if someone was mind controlled into spitting on kittens and kicking puppies. However, they'd only kick puppies you provide to them personally, though they'd spit on every adorable baby kitten in sight.
They are free of this mind control once they kick ten puppies.
While making them kick puppies is a terrible thing to do, all the time you delay is a longer period of time they're stuck spitting on kittens. And you plan on getting out eventually anyway, so you're going to have to force them to have to kick ten puppies regardless.
Thus you should suck it up and force them to kick ten adorable puppies as fast as possible, and deal with the fallout afterwards, otherwise they'll be spitting on kittens for longer than they'd need to.
Even if you're aiming to free every girl at once, that just means you should just arrange a puppy soccer match with them all, not delay.

If the puppy kicking soccer match harem extravaganza seriously doesn't fly with you, then stop delaying and just seduce your non-puppy kicking sister already so everyone can go home!

This analogy has gotten away from me. :V
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Makes sense to me, choose Shamal. Though it will definitely take longer than everyone else by not being brainwashed. But that's free will
 
Tobi'sAGoodBoy said:
Makes sense to me, choose Shamal. Though it will definitely take longer than everyone else by not being brainwashed. But that's free will
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I've been shipping YuunoxShamal for a good while now. Not just because of the Big Sister route part, but because I like their interactions and them working together to escape this nightmare would inevitably lead to them growing closer.

And with this new murder mystery plot, it's obvious they're going to have to work together to discover who the killer is, so we'll basically be forced to get those Relationship Points in order to prevent more deaths.
 
Highwind said:
I've been shipping YuunoxShamal for a good while now. Not just because of the Big Sister route part, but because I like their interactions and them working together to escape this nightmare would inevitably lead to them growing closer.

And with this new murder mystery plot, it's obvious they're going to have to work together to discover who the killer is, so we'll basically be forced to get those Relationship Points in order to prevent more deaths.
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That and they'll need to team up against the possible Yandere............it's one of them. The game is screwing with their minds
 
Perhaps the game's desire to please the user and our refusal to waifu triggered a Genre Shift, with a completely different set of win conditions?
 
....in a franchise infamous for its huge-ass female cast, a lady main character just died.

Additionally, we have reason to suspect that AI-piloted characters may be capable of being driven to murder.

...if we don't pick a waifu, the game will systematically kill off the assorted heroines one at a time, until only one waifu remains, eventually to the point that we get an official system message to the general effect of "Either you shack up with the lady, or you stay inside here forever. So. What's it gonna be, Yuuno/Sufficient Velocity? WHAT'S IT GONNA FUCKING BE?!"

EDIT: and THEN watch the Wolkenritter kick our ass for being so chivalrous and gentlemanly that our refusal to waifu anyone wound up getting Hayate killed, however briefly.
 
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EvaUnit01 said:
....in a franchise infamous for its huge-ass female cast, a lady main character just died.

Additionally, we have reason to suspect that AI-piloted characters may be capable of being driven to murder.

...if we don't pick a waifu, the game will systematically kill off the assorted heroines one at a time, until only one waifu remains, eventually to the point that we get an official system message to the general effect of "Either you shack up with the lady, or you stay inside here forever. So. What's it gonna be, Yuuno/Sufficient Velocity? WHAT'S IT GONNA FUCKING BE?!"

EDIT: and THEN watch the Wolkenritter kick our ass for being so chivalrous and gentlemanly that our refusal to waifu anyone wound up getting Hayate killed, however briefly.
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Did you watch JoJo Abridged? Because now I can see Yuuno/Sufficient Velocity hyperventilating out of sheer panic and stress
 
EvaUnit01 said:
....in a franchise infamous for its huge-ass female cast, a lady main character just died.

Additionally, we have reason to suspect that AI-piloted characters may be capable of being driven to murder.

...if we don't pick a waifu, the game will systematically kill off the assorted heroines one at a time, until only one waifu remains, eventually to the point that we get an official system message to the general effect of "Either you shack up with the lady, or you stay inside here forever. So. What's it gonna be, Yuuno/Sufficient Velocity? WHAT'S IT GONNA FUCKING BE?!"

EDIT: and THEN watch the Wolkenritter kick our ass for being so chivalrous and gentlemanly that our refusal to waifu anyone wound up getting Hayate killed, however briefly.
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We seduce the game itself. Just constantly keep chatting into the air. Even if it doesn't respond back we can make it fall for us.
 
Enohthree said:
If the puppy kicking soccer match harem extravaganza seriously doesn't fly with you, then stop delaying and just seduce your non-puppy kicking sister already so everyone can go home!
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One of them. Technically we have two now.

Plus, you know, Signum's an option too. In fact, considering what happened that evening, we don't yet know if Shamal is still in the not-kicking-puppies category. Signum may be the only sane/controlling herself one left.
 
Enohthree said:
Welp, just caught up on a hundred pages of intense waifu morality debates the slow way. Fun times.

Regarding the morality of romancing brainwashed friends, well, they're already brainwashed. They are acting in strange ways, their memories have been blocked off, and in this world they can only love Yuuno romantically, regardless of other feelings they had for other people. It's not like we're going to make it too much worse.
Plus, unless the genre shift impacted things too much, this is running under dating sim mechanics, which means there's a fixed numerical value to how we pass certain events. That's far removed from an organic relationship in any case.
To use a terrible analogy, imagine if someone was mind controlled into spitting on kittens and kicking puppies. However, they'd only kick puppies you provide to them personally, though they'd spit on every adorable baby kitten in sight.
They are free of this mind control once they kick ten puppies.
While making them kick puppies is a terrible thing to do, all the time you delay is a longer period of time they're stuck spitting on kittens. And you plan on getting out eventually anyway, so you're going to have to force them to have to kick ten puppies regardless.
Thus you should suck it up and force them to kick ten adorable puppies as fast as possible, and deal with the fallout afterwards, otherwise they'll be spitting on kittens for longer than they'd need to.
Even if you're aiming to free every girl at once, that just means you should just arrange a puppy soccer match with them all, not delay.

If the puppy kicking soccer match harem extravaganza seriously doesn't fly with you, then stop delaying and just seduce your non-puppy kicking sister already so everyone can go home!

This analogy has gotten away from me. :V
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I didn't understand a word of that analogy besides "Suck it up!" which sounds good enough to me.

justinkal said:
Except that Yuuno is experienced enough to know that a Lost Logia that functions as intended is the exception rather than the rule, so there's an unsafe assumption inherent to that logic.

The assumption that completing a route will actually end the game like its supposed to isn't a safe assumption :V
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But it is acting like it's supposed to. You guys just don't know the purpose.

Ridiculously Average Guy said:
We seduce the game itself. Just constantly keep chatting into the air. Even if it doesn't respond back we can make it fall for us.
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Ferret Swag.

EvaUnit01 said:
And then watch the game manifest itself as Chrono.
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I'll admit to considering this idea after rewatching the Matrix.
 
These are good points, but we're trying to prevent the puppy-kicking at all. Even if it requires more kitten spitting. Then there's the fact that we're worried about the aftermath more than the game itself.
 
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    • You hesitantly walk up to the door for Shamal's room and step inside quietly, closing the door behind you as you face against Shamals bed.

    There she was, Sleeping peacefully as could be in spite of the events that had transpired last night. Whatever the hell happened there.

    Apparently you weren't quiet enough as she slowly opens her eyes, shot as red as a camel being burned at the stake before starting at you and letting out another cough.

    "Yuuno?" She coughs at in a hoarse voice. "What- caak- happened?" I can't remember anything..."

    It was just a simple question but it chilled you to the bone as you felt skeletons dancing up your spine. You were almost all alone here, and you weren't as close to Signum as you were to Shamal after the past few days.

    "Shamal..." You begin cautiously, stepping forward and taking her hand. "What do you remember?"

    "I remember the sound of you coming home yesterday before..." She answers before breaking out into another coughing fit. "Did something happen? Did the Lost Logia do something?"

    You almost cry with relief. She remembers, thank the Saint King.

    "You collapsed in a coughing fit when you forced me to go to The Shop And Bar yesterday." You explain, holding her hand tighter. "You were about to tell me something before..."

    Her eyes closed peacefully, before she turns her head to look up at the ceiling.

    "And Vita?" She asks, sounding much more relieved. "How's she?"

    "I don't know." You answer truthfully. "I remember walking out of the place with you to in hand but after that I found myself waking up in the living room with tv on. Apparently there's been a murder."

    Shamal sits up in a burst of action, her hand slipping out of yours before grabbing your shoulders. She lets out a gasp before another round of coughs, this time much more violent.

    "Who?" She let's out in between.

    "Some girl named Vivio." You mutter out, turning your head to look away. "Any idea?"

    "...None."

    The question rattles your mind, why would the Lost Logia murder her?! Was she ever actually real?!

    There's no answer. It's all a matter of perspective.

    You sigh before standing up.

    "Get yourself some rest." You advise her, letting herself lay down on the bed. "I'm no doctor but you're definitely not in any shape to be up."

    She lets out a strained smile. "So, the nurse is the one who's sick now?"

    A dry laugh escapes your lips before you walk out of the room.

    "Shamal," You call before you close the door. "Not funny."

    The door shuts behind you.

    ****

    As you stand in the hallway the scene that just happened goes through your mind.

    Everything that had just transpired...

    You slam your hand against the wall. It hurt like hell but you don't care.

    "Dammit!" You yell, slamming it again. "Just what the hell did you want from me?!"

    It was like a script and you had just played straight into it's hands. Choo Choo, all aboard the Shamal Route.

    A small part of you told you that you weren't thinking clearly, that this wasn't you.

    You punched that part of you and marched up into your room before slamming the door.

    ...You were taking the day off from school, you had to much. You weren't going to be playing by this damn things rules.

    "Fuck it all." You mutter, throwing on a dark green hoodie that you found in the depths of your closet.

    A small device catches your eye, a smart phone lying on top of your desk. You were pretty sure it wasn't yours but you picked up anyways.

    There was a message addressed to you. Not you you but you.

    Hello there.

    It's me.

    You don't seem to want to play by the rules, and if you aren't then I won't. However, there is still a chance to go back to that safe mode, the doki doki high life that you've led for the past few days. If you choose not to, well... the mystery deepens and you might never see any of those girls here again.

    Of course there is always a chance to back out at any time during that route. The... Lost Route if you will. Just text me you want to go back, but you can't go on and off. If you back out once, that's it you're done.

    Oh? Should I add anymore threat? Ah yes.

    You are familiar with the concept of Bad Ends right? We'll, continue to go down this path and if you get one single bad end you get thrown back to the regular path. And you can't get out, I'll delete your brain and everyone connected to the system.

    Choose wisely, I want one a choice with every fiber of your being. Just give me a text.

    [] Lost.
    [] Normal.

    Goodbye.
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    ...It wasn't addressed to you and you couldn't read it anyways, so you through it in your pocket and walked out of the house.

    Where to?

    [] TSBA
    [] The scene of the murder
    [] Just walk around town.

    ***
    ...I didn't mean to do that I swear.

    Zkr'v hbhv duh wkrvh hbhv?
     
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