Metastable

Eh, I think it could use some work. Needs another syllable for Tattletale, and three for the vulpine line.

Maybe Lisa Wilborne instead of tattletale (assuming she gives her name as a sign of trust)?

Add another adjective to the other line?
Annoying and vulpine and bratty is she

Could even add another line to keep it going, maybe finish the song:
If thinker nonsense be something you wish
Then hide under the deck, and follow that fish!

Alt:
Then Dive under the deck, grab the tinker's squid?
Sink to the seabed, gulp water like a fish?

Enjoy your new home, hope you like this selection of young adult novels I personally picked out of my own collection for you?

Maybe not that last one.

Yeah it wasn't really something I put a lot of work into when I initially posted it but since it's going to be an actual omake I'll try to improve it a bit, took a few of your suggestions, I think it flows a bit better now but might be too close to the original song?
 
Yeah it wasn't really something I put a lot of work into when I initially posted it but since it's going to be an actual omake I'll try to improve it a bit, took a few of your suggestions, I think it flows a bit better now but might be too close to the original song?
That's a good point, A good parody should be distinct even as it reminds you of the original.

Thankfully, it's your post not mine, so I can shrug and say it's good enough for me and stop caring! :D

Hope you also find yourself content with it my man dude guy penguin.
 
To answer, in a general way, all the questions about how Coil is doing:


No he won't. Coil is aware that something may happen in the timeline he plans to keep when he starts those, which would leave him without whatever person he was using to gather information/release stress. He didn't start doing that to Lisa/the undersiders until he felt their use was about up and they were turning into a liability. Now, bugging her computer on the other hand...
So, I'm not sure how clear canon is on this, as Coil didn't start doing that frequently until he felt like he was going to lose the Undersiders regardless of that risk. Whether he did it at all in the beginning is harder to tell.

In this story, you can presume he ensured, by hook or by crook, that he felt confident enough in his ability to stop Tattletale from escaping to allow her to live in her own apartment and roam relatively freely and that he understood the rest of the Undersiders equally well.

Sorry Lisa, but nope -- Papa Wolf Mode is in full effect. Look at it this way -- there is no way Coil knows where you are, he'd have to be omniscient.

Nice crack about hypocritical heroes BTW there, Lisa!

This is looking like one of the most canon-compliant Lisa's out there, good job?
Thank you for the compliment that Lisa feels canon compliant. I do not always succeed in maintaining the characters well. In some cases, I make intentional changes of course, but I've tried to avoid unintentional changes.

The hypocritical heroes bit, if I understood correctly as to which part you were referring to, is information from her power. As much as Lisa relies on her power, that's not necessarily the same thing as Lisa's own opinion. I'm not going to clarify Lisa's opinion here because that's part of the plot, and is to be relevant later.

In the same line of reasoning, Danny is actively trying to ensure that Lisa can't get information on himself or Taylor by obscuring both the information she's given and how she gets that information.

The situation between Taylor and Coil is going to be interesting anyway. Her mass produced bots are a soft counter to Coil's thinker ability since it'd be very hard to catch her by surprise. On the other hand she's basically screwed if Coil ever gets an intelligence advantage over her. He can try againd and again and chances are her bots can get spoofed.
For the next several days, Coil is going to be pulling his hair out and having Lisa's car torn apart.

"Why the hell did she buy trash bags and soy sauce?"

"I dunno boss, maybe she really was just going shopping?"


What happens after that I'll leave for the story posts to clarify.

Looking forward to Taylor tailoring her bots towards a specific threat instead of the multi-purpose built-up she has now.
Well, keep in mind that her units ('bots' is a perfectly acceptable term, but as Taylor uses the term units in story, I try to stay consistent in how I think about them) are currently all geared towards resource collection.

I don't think it's much of a spoiler to say that nearly all units from here on out are specialty unit types. As a similar comparison, by weight, I expect most of Armsmaster's tinkertech is actually the tools in his lab for maintaining his combat gear.

The vast majority of a Tinker's efforts are in collecting and processing resources, and maintaining tinkertech.

Taylor's turtle units will always outnumber the combined total of her other units.

Is Taylor capable of synthesizing tranquilizers or some sort? Laser-proof bullet-resistant armor and something to spray knock-out gas or similar at people should a good counter against Coils mercenaries, and feel entirely achievable.
Taylor is not a biotinker. She's closer than Armsmaster to one, as he is now, but still not actually one. She doesn't get insights into biology the way Armsmaster or Kid Win could by studying the work of biotinkers. Armsmaster could take Bonesaw's work, and make it slightly less effective but a quarter the size, as an example.

Tranquilizers, and similar biology affecting compounds would be very difficult. Killing people with gases or injectable tranqs is easy. Not killing them is hard.

Armor is a yes, most certainly. Not the toughest armor, but possibly the cheapest per unit of effectiveness.

As for gases and liquid compounds generically, if Taylor wanted to dissolve somebody, that would be easy. Most human connective tissue is a polymer of some sort or another. She just couldn't remake the tissue. If you could describe a material Taylor makes as a 'solvent' of a carbon compound, then odds are she can make it.

As an aside, as I understand it in canon, Armsmaster's tranq was developed in collaboration with Dragon and was a hilariously lethal dose, but the delivery and release was closely regulated by nanobots. That's why Skitter made it such an issue. Her poisons kept working even after Lung was carefully dosed into unconsciousness, and the nanobots couldn't retract the already released tranquilizers.

I wonder if Lisa will give Taylor access to some of her emergency funds that she has most certainly been squirreling away.
In canon, Lisa got her nest egg started with the bank job, I'm pretty sure. Perhaps I'm wrong about her being completely broke, but if she had enough money to get herself a laptop and an apartment, I doubt she would have been pickpocketing in person on the Boardwalk instead of hacking the bank accounts of people with poor passwords.

Then drop on the deck and flop like a fish!
If you're taking suggestions, maybe:
Then drop off the dock and flop like a fish!

Just a thought, not sure if it's a good idea. You don't need to make any changes, any version of it I'm happy to put in a threadmark.

Ok, that whole post was funny, but this one in particular was great.

Coil is going to be most annoyed by this, yet helpless to do anything. Even he cannot strike a foe he knows nothing about -but she will very soon know him quite well indeed.
Cave in his skull, steal his assets... brand new base and all the monies here we come.
"This is a nice lair. It's a good set-up. I like everything about it, except for one thing."

"And what's that?"

"You."

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Also, though, Taylor can't kill people, killing is wrong. She can do other stuff to them though. Heroes do 'other stuff' to villains all the time. She's not very clear on what 'other stuff' actually is, but killing people is wrong.

Have you thought of posting this on space battles people tend to discuss more on that site.
So, this is my impression of Spacebattles for Author's:

Author Story Post: [Content]

Comment A: That's nice. I liked Part A.

Comment B: That's ok. Part B needs [work].

Comment C: This sucks. Part C is shit. Git gud or stop wasting our time.

Comment D: That's ok. Part D needs [work].

Author: Thanks everyone for taking the time to respond. I'm glad Part A is liked. I'll work on Part B, I can see what you mean about it. Part D is operating as intended. Maybe it should be something else, but this what I want to write. Uh, Mr C, maybe you could stop being a jackass, or just not read my story if you don't like it?

Moderator: Author has been infracted for trying to turn his thread into a hugbox.

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I'm sorry for the long winded example, but I don't know what to call that as an issue. It's like one user picks a fight with another, but at best they both get punished, because the user who is the Author 'doesn't get to turn his thread into a hugbox'.

I like comments, it even got me a nice omake for the thread today.

However, I'll be posting this story regardless of comments. I'm not trying to get comments. This is my first story ever with more than a chapter or two. I'm just posting it in case people enjoy it. I just wanted to learn about myself as a writer.

I've heard AO3 has a weird posting system, and that FFN has a worse comment system than anything else. So, that leaves SV, and what do you know? I'm already doing stuff here anyway.

SB was my first account of these four places. I like SB, I just don't care to understand the moderator policies, or worse, it turns out that I do understand the moderator policies and I just don't like them for the purposes of story telling.

They seem to work fine for the rest of the site, and for all the omakes I've posted in stories there. I don't want SB to fail, but if I post a story, I want the right to the same level of rudeness as somebody commenting on my story.


As an aside, if somebody asks if this story is archived elsewhere, the answer is no. This site is the archive, for now. After this story is complete, or dead, then I may post it to AO3, but as long as there's a chance that I'll make grammar and spelling corrections, I'm not going to have it in two places. If somebody wants an ebook copy, please quote them the part about Calibre and FanFicFare.
 
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To answer, in a general way, all the questions about how Coil is doing:


For the next several days, Coil is going to be pulling his hair out and having Lisa's car torn apart.

"Why the hell did she buy trash bags and soy sauce?"

"I dunno boss, maybe she really was just going shopping?"


What happens after that I'll leave for the story posts to clarify.
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When I was growing up, and I still do this myself, when someone was cooking and had leftover marinade or sauce or whatever that would not be saved for later, it was generally put in a disposable container which was then put in a couple of bags, to prevent leaking.
If Coil or one of his men do, or have seen, something similar, then Coil might come to believe she was planning to cook something and got kidnapped.
He might run himself in circles trying to figure out if someone grabbed Tattletale on purpose, or if they were going after any random blonde girl, and it was just coincidence.
How she didn't realize what was happening at the time will probably bother him as well, cause that implies a Stranger, or some other way around her power.
 
Just started reading this. So far I like the premise, because it does not veer too far away from plausible and I like your characterization so far. Also, polymer tinker is stupidly strong, since polymers can be organic and inorganic. I know she doesn't consider herself a biotinker, but she is honestly in that grey zone of 'what is alive?' since her creations think primitive thoughts, eat, and poop. If she creates a mom blob that can create other blobs, can you say exponential growth?
 
She doesn't get insights into biology the way Armsmaster or Kid Win could by studying the work of biotinkers.
Could you clarify this for me? She is closer to a biotinker than Armsmaster, as you say. She also has already created units that expel chemicals/gases to affect humans. The rebreather already needs to ensure a certain concentration of certain human-affecting gases to work. What would be the rough cut-off-point for her?

My current theory is that she only very roughly knows which chemicals affect humans in which way, but if she finds a formula/description of a chemical online, then she can use that as part of her design. Information on breathable gases is easily found, but but stuff that quickly knocks people out is kept somewhat secret for obvious reasons.

if she had enough money to get herself a laptop and an apartment, I doubt she would have been pickpocketing in person on the Boardwalk instead of hacking the bank accounts of people with poor passwords

I've seen different explanations for that. If she wanted money she could have just burglarized houses without cameras, stolen a few ATM cards to get thousands of dollars each day etc etc. I'm fairly sure some fanfics also described her having stolen a fortune from her awful family before leaving.

Two explanations come to mind for her living as a pickpocket: 1) Lying low: Similar to Regent, she hid her abilities as much as possible. Banks and insurances in Worm employ thinkers, people on the street do not. 2) She only took as much money as she wanted for something. Feel like staying in a fancy hotel? Spend a couple hours getting thousands of dollars. Just want lunch and new clothes? Shoplifting and pickpocketing.
 
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Taylor's Tinkering & Similar Info
Three sections to this post. First, general responses. Second, stuff about Lisa. Third, stuff about Taylor's tinkering.

First.
Just started reading this. So far I like the premise, because it does not veer too far away from plausible and I like your characterization so far.
Thanks.
The progression of plot as an effect on a character over time is one area I've considered rather interesting in storytelling. How much should a character change based on their personality and the plot?


Second.
He might run himself in circles trying to figure out if someone grabbed Tattletale on purpose, or if they were going after any random blonde girl, and it was just coincidence.
How she didn't realize what was happening at the time will probably bother him as well, cause that implies a Stranger, or some other way around her power.
A purposeful attack, Lisa should have seen coming. What if she just walked down the wrong alley, startled somebody, and got shot? Her body gets looted and then dumped somewhere, and voila, she's vanished. Coil had to work to catch her. If her disappearance is a random mugging gone wrong, it offends him that she could just have up and died after all the work he did.

Two explanations come to mind for her living as a pickpocket: 1) Lying low: Similar to Regent, she hid her abilities as much as possible. Banks and insurances in Worm employ thinkers, people on the street do not. 2) She only took as much money as she wanted for something. Feel like staying in a fancy hotel? Spend a couple hours getting thousands of dollars. Just want lunch and new clothes? Shoplifting and pickpocketing.
I like both of these. I'd say a mix of them are true in this story. Regardless, Lisa wasn't doing very well though. She didn't have enough money squirreled away to just hop on a plane and start over in a different city after Coil picked her up.

As this is an off the cuff answer, I'm going to stop here, as if I tried to give more details, I might have to change them if it comes up in story.


Third.
Also, polymer tinker is stupidly strong, since polymers can be organic and inorganic. I know she doesn't consider herself a biotinker, but she is honestly in that grey zone of 'what is alive?' since her creations think primitive thoughts, eat, and poop. If she creates a mom blob that can create other blobs, can you say exponential growth?

Could you clarify this for me? She is closer to a biotinker than Armsmaster, as you say. She also has already created units that expel chemicals/gases to affect humans. The rebreather already needs to ensure a certain concentration of certain human-affecting gases to work. What would be the rough cut-off-point for her?

My current theory is that she only very roughly knows which chemicals affect humans in which way, but if she finds a formula/description of a chemical online, then she can use that as part of her design. Information on breathable gases is easily found, but but stuff that quickly knocks people out is kept somewhat secret for obvious reasons.

So, both of these quotes overlap a bit, and have complex answers. I hope it is best to respond to both by topic, rather than responding sequentially and individually.

In Worm canon, Tinkers build tinkertech. In my interpretation of Worm canon, there are three subtypes of Tinker: Category, Method, and Quirk.
Armsmaster and Kid Win are Method Tinkers. They can build nearly anything, but only within a particular method of tinkering. They can readily incorporate the work of other Tinkers, but not duplicate their exact work.
Taylor and Squealer are Category Tinkers. They are the best at their topic, but also limited to their topic. Everything Squealer builds must be in the form of a vehicle. Everything Taylor builds must be based on a polymer.
Leet and String Theory are Quirk Tinkers. They can build anything, without restriction. What matters is how they build it. I believe Fanon String Theory holds that she must complete any project that she starts within a particular time frame, as determined by her power. Once a project starts, failure to complete has nasty consequences. As another example, Leet's quirk is that he cannot build any particular instance of tinkertech more than once, without risk of explosion.

Within my story, Armsmaster can learn to biotinker, as long as he gets access to one, or puts in the significant effort to develop those skills on his own.

Taylor cannot biotinker, as biology is composed of more than polymers. Proteins, for example, are just outside of her limitations. Proteins are assembled chains of animo acids. They are not repeating chains. Proteins require that they be non-repeating in order to fold into the unique shapes necessary for human biological function. Taylor can make stuff that binds or sorts a particular protein, but she gets no Tinker insight into the design or function of proteins themselves. In contrast, the extracellular matrix is a carbohydrate polymer. That is something she can work with, to a limited extent. The base structure is a polymer, but there's a lot of localized irregularity and other modifications done by cells. She can't use her Tinker abilities to figure out the localized and extra information from the extracellular matrix, and she can't assemble more than a blank slate of the stuff, but the base polymer is within her expertise.

For affecting biology, she gets no Tinker insight. For disassembling or modifying polymers, even those part of biological structures, she can work with that, but not get Tinker insight into all of the repercussions of those modifications.

For affecting biology, such as using breathable gases, she can often just make them if she can find the compound description and synthesis process. This is normal chemistry, and something she is studying in school. While she has a lot to learn, in the end, it's not trying to Tinker outside her Category. However, all normal sedatives that I'm aware of, are very dangerous when released in unmanaged doses. Minimal effect or death are usually common outcomes. Both of those are unacceptable to Taylor and Danny when considering using them as an attack vector.

Self-replicating tinkertech. This is a tricky one. I almost considered it as its own category of Tinker.

Maybe I'm wrong, but as near as I can tell, there are no actual self replicating Tinkers in canon Worm. A couple of lines in Worm about the Eagleton robot army is the closest it gets. Nilbog is a Striker, not a Tinker. Same for Panacea. There are huge worries that Bonesaw might do this, but she never actually confirms that she can.

A better rule of thumb, in my opinion, is that there is no self-maintaining tinkertech. A Tinker can build a device that builds tinkertech. Nearly all Tinkers do that. Armsmaster is implied to have a variety of tinkertech tools that he uses to build more tinkertech. Self-maintaining tinkertech is therefore the thing that is banned. Tinkertech machines building different tinkertech is fine. What can't happen is a closed cycle.

The fundamental limit on the production of tinkertech is the lower bound between the ability of the Tinker to build and the Shard provided understanding of what can be built. Armsmaster approaches the human limitations in canon, modifying himself for reduced biological limitations and more effective interfaces for his tinkering. On the other side, Kid Win put great effort into tinkering, but to minimal effect, arguably because his shard refused to provide him with insight because Kid Win wasn't tinkering in the way his shard wanted him to tinker.

Lastly, for this section. Scuba gear requires no biological tinkering. Simply look up the mixture of gases needed. Tinkering was used to figure out how to provide them using polymers though.



I hope that clarifies things.
Should I threadmark this part as informational?
 
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Um so what whats stopping her from making something similar to the Symbiote, also since Taylor programmed the her amoebae i have to assume all Category Tinker get a minor Tinker pack including programming and other minor specialty because if not... yeah

Edit didn't want to post another comment: if Taylor understood how proteins worked would she be able to incorporate that knowledge into her creations or would her shard actively ignore the knowledge
 
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I think the issue with Tattletale leaving (by car, boat or plane) was that all plans would have risked her being caught and Coil punishing her and anyone involved in her escape attempt, rather than a lack of money. Not to mention that I doubt Brockton Bay has an airport and there are no fishing boats left. Also, even if she managed to leave the city, Coil is influential enough to hire people to catch her elsewhere. His big thing is hiring both mundane and cape mercenaries, he also has an unknown number of contacts to other super villains and access to any sightings of her reported to the PRT. Any long-term escape plan needs to, in descending order of desirability: a) Take down Coil. b) Fake her death in a thinker-proof way. c) Distract Coil enough for him to ignore Tattletale.

Then there is Coil's spitefulness: Suppose she convinces the mercs currently watching her to send false reports for a few hours, then uses that time to escape. Now Coil will 1) Kill and maybe torture any merc involved. 2) Possibly kill and torture any civilians who have helped her. 3) Maybe punish any friends/teammates she left behind. That is even before the likelihood of her being recaptured comes into play.

She does not know Coil's thinker power, so she has to assume he will find out any escape method she can think of, sooner or later. Doing a leap of faith with Taylor will hopefully keep him off her trail for a while, but she still has to assume that she is on a time-limit until Coil finds her again.

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Anyway, regarding her money: I would assume she has between several hundred and a few thousand dollars. Nothing game-changing, but enough to boost the production of a handful of specialist units.

Your tinker-tech explanations fits how I thought it works. I.e. Tinkers get no help outside of their specialty, but nothing stops them from just learning something the hard way. Then, Tinker-Inspiration helps them integrate that into their specialty.

In this case, Taylor would have to understand a suitable mundane sedative and decide on a dosage. Then she could make polymers that create the sedative, store it and deliver it in said dosage.

I think there are some very safe and suitable sedatives. From what I remember of looking up deaths due to tranqs and sleeping gas, deaths from normal usage are extremely rare (mostly due to other health complications). I think there was on large-scale use of gas that killed a bunch of people in Russia, but that was caused by heavier-than-air gas inside a building that was lower than the surrounding area. Those people were lying in the gas for an hour or so because it could not disperse.

The main issue with these 'safe' tranqs is a) Used as a standard avenue of attack someone will have a bad reaction eventually. b) They take several minutes to work, making them useless in a direct fight.

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There are still two scenarios Taylor could use them: Running away from Mercs and attacking Coil's underground base. In both cases, she would risk it for several reasons. One, her and Danny's life is on the line. Two, the Mercs are probably very healthy. Three, they literally signed up for this kind of thing.

When running away, limiting the chase to several minutes would be a tremendous help. When attacking the base, it her targets are sitting ducks. She would just need a way to neutralize the gas after 10 minutes or so.

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Just looked up tranqs. Most discussion regarding humans mostly stops at the "It either takes too long or is too dangerous to be useful in a fight." bit. Summary: Quick and safe requires precise dosages directly in the veins. Long and safe take 10-20 minutes and is still too dangerous to routinely used on humans. Also, humans could just remove normal darts through the magic that is hands.

The knockout gas incident mentioned above was from a 2002 hostage situation in Moscow 15% of the hostages died due to gas. The reason for this amount was twofold:
1) They soaked in the stuff for several hours (time for the gas to disperse + 1.5h gun fight + getting 800 unconscious people out of the building)
2) Russia refused to tell the doctors what gas they used. Therefore, they were never treated properly.

The specific gas is unknown even today.
 
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Um so what whats stopping her from making something similar to the Symbiote
So, I googled 'the Symbiote', as I wasn't sure what you meant.

A Marvel comics symbiote is sort of possible. However, it would be like making a shoggoth. It would look like one, and people would even call it by that name, but it would have far fewer abilities and resiliency than in those comics.

If you meant a Stargate Goa'uld symbiote, then no. She can't make that as it would require to much biology work. She could make an implant that reacted to specific stimuli, but nothing resembling the specific abilities of that sort of symbiote.

also since Taylor programmed the her amoebae i have to assume all Category Tinker get a minor Tinker pack including programming and other minor specialty because if not... yeah
An issue that may be key here is that the words Taylor, or any ignorant human, uses to describe tinkering are going to be very limited.

Metastable implies flux and change, environmental stimuli induces a resulting change in the reactive aspects of Taylor's tinkering.

All Tinkers get a broad enough knowledge base to effectively fight with their power, either directly or by proxy, against non-powered humans.

Parahumans are not created equal, but even the weakest parahuman, if the studies were replicated enough times, gets a power that enables them to be measurably better at fighting than a normal human.

She does not know Coil's thinker power, so she has to assume he will find out any escape method she can think of, sooner or later. Doing a leap of faith with Taylor will hopefully keep him off her trail for a while, but she still has to assume that she is on a time-limit until Coil finds her again.
I can't respond to every part of your post right now. If there's a particular part you want me to address, please make note of it and bump my about it in a day or so.

Overall, I agree with your thoughts on Lisa's situation in general. As a broad overview, it is a good assessment. As a caveat, I'm not confirming any particular detail or conclusion as accurate for this story.

The part I quoted was the section I expect would be the most likely to be accurate part if I sat down and did a full analysis between it and my story.

Your tinker-tech explanations fits how I thought it works. I.e. Tinkers get no help outside of their specialty, but nothing stops them from just learning something the hard way. Then, Tinker-Inspiration helps them integrate that into their specialty.
I'm glad my explanation made sense.

Your example is very concise and pleasing. I may quote it again in the future if this topic comes up for others.

As for sedatives and tranqs: yes, your suggestions would work.

The one issue I'd note is that the delivery mechanism would be at the edge of Taylor's specialty, so she'd have to work at it. Not outside of it, but she's not going to just spontaneously know how to make it.

Otherwise, I think that it's a reasonable suggestion as to a possible course of action.

No promises on Taylor being able to pursue it.

As of this last chapter, Taylor has run out of time to pursue her own interests free of any external concerns.

Unless Danny let's her drop out of school (I'm sure all of you can almost hear his laughter at that idea from your internet access devices), she's stuck doing that, and now she's got to deal with somebody who claims to be a Thinker and on the run from a supervillain, and is currently staying in one of her lairs. Of course, said person could actually be a Master, Changer, or Stranger ('Or why not all of that at once?' Danny asks in the background), and be trying to capture themselves a Tinker.
 
So, I googled 'the Symbiote', as I wasn't sure what you meant.

A Marvel comics symbiote is sort of possible. However, it would be like making a shoggoth. It would look like one, and people would even call it by that name, but it would have far fewer abilities and resiliency than in those comics.

If you meant a Stargate Goa'uld symbiote, then no. She can't make that as it would require to much biology work. She could make an implant that reacted to specific stimuli, but nothing resembling the specific abilities of that sort of symbiote.

I was talking about the Marvel Symbiote, also even if it not as smart or flexible as the real Symbiote making a skintight bio-suit that could potentially tank bullets is still a really powerful thing to have especially if you can fit in your pocket
 
I can't respond to every part of your post right now. If there's a particular part you want me to address, please make note of it and bump my about it in a day or so.

Don't feel pressed to respond to any part of that post. It is just there as a general pool of ideas and inspiration because a) I simply like speculating about stories and b) Even if it not fit your story, it may at some point inspire you in some aspect (Lisa's situation) or far-future scenario. c) I'm procrastinating by writing unnecessarily long posts.

I was talking about the Marvel Symbiote, also even if it not as smart or flexible as the real Symbiote making a skintight bio-suit that could potentially tank bullets is still a really powerful thing to have especially if you can fit in your pocket

Sounds like a possible far-future final version of the skin-bound power armor Taylor is working on, though I think she will go for modularity rather than a single powerful suit.
 
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Sounds like a possible far-future final version of the skin-binding power armor Taylor is working on, though I think she will go for modularity rather than a single powerful suit.
Who said she has to wear the bio-suit all by its self? i was thinking about using the suit in a manner similar to the Spartan's under suit from Halo
 
The one issue I'd note is that the delivery mechanism would be at the edge of Taylor's specialty, so she'd have to work at it. Not outside of it, but she's not going to just spontaneously know how to make it.
yeah darts do not sound much her style ( though plastics can be as strong and sharp as metal as shivs demonstrate) I would peg paintballs as a more likely gas and topical liquid dispersion system.


could come in multiple colors and payloads: Irritants ( canon Taylor loved capsaicin after all!), acids, slippery/lubricant substances ( buckyball slurry in oil suspension? super teflon powder?), adhesives, foams (a classic in setting!)
 
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Personally, I thought the delivery would be either units that release a gas with a possible second stage the neutralizes / absorbs the same gas after a while, or small units (like paint balls). Those could do anything from simply clinging to skin and releasing a set amount of sedative to boring through armor or finding a vein and then injecting it directly, depending on Taylor's resources.
 
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Those could do anything from simply clinging to skin and releasing a set amount of sedative to boring through armor or finding a vein and then injecting it directly, depending on Taylor's resources.
huh, I think the former is more likely than the latter. the intelligence of her stuff escalates with size so I doubt small balls could pack substance and brains at the same time. she already has the skin bonding gel down pat if we see tattletale's re-breather and just amp that to 11. Adding some synthetics solvent and a muscle relaxant and you have the strip&sleep ball :V
 
I like this, really like the thought that went into the power and how they researched the Wards before making a decision. After all it should raise eyebrows that all the Wards go on patrols and that Wards fight villains. Looking forward to more.
 
I like this story so far.

It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

If Tattletale can convince Taylor that sending her to the authorities will be sending her to Coil, that will open up a few problems and opportunities.

Tattletale can't go out without fear of being snatched by Coil. Taylor and Danny don't want Taylor to go out in costume. A solution might be to have Lisa became a new cape in shining plastic armor while Taylor stays safe and has an alibi.

One question about Taylor's capabilities that comes up in this context is: Can Taylor make Hollywood style latex masks?

Giving her such master of disguise type tools may be stretching her powers too much, but it would be exactly what Lisa needs right now.
 
One question about Taylor's capabilities that comes up in this context is: Can Taylor make Hollywood style latex masks?

Depends on how good Taylor is at sculpting making a malleable yet durable material is well within her skill set, making one look like a human face on the other hand... unless she can munchkin it by using some programming i don't see it
 
Depends on how good Taylor is at sculpting making a malleable yet durable material is well within her skill set, making one look like a human face on the other hand... unless she can munchkin it by using some programming i don't see it

And thus Taylors next foray into actions of questionable legality is to use her plastic minons to break into the local waxworks museum and make copies of all the faces. Que Tatletale shoping whilst wearing a Cleopatra face mask.
 
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Sounds like a possible far-future final version of the skin-bound power armor Taylor is working on, though I think she will go for modularity rather than a single powerful suit.
i was thinking about using the suit in a manner similar to the Spartan's under suit from Halo
I was talking about the Marvel Symbiote, also even if it not as smart or flexible as the real Symbiote making a skintight bio-suit that could potentially tank bullets is still a really powerful thing to have especially if you can fit in your pocket
Ah, yeah, a smart suit with a single purpose is quite possible. Tanking bullets is quite a ways off, but stopping bullets from killing her is eminently reasonable as a concept.

I think you both will be pleased with how this defensive suit idea develops in story.


a) I simply like speculating about stories b) Even if it not fit your story, it may at some point inspire you in some aspect (Lisa's situation) or far-future scenario.

Fair enough. I've been quite surprised at how much I've enjoyed the speculation. I've even integrated the point about catalytic converters by @Loki-L and corrected a minor plothole or two as pointed out by others.

yeah darts do not sound much her style ( though plastics can be as strong and sharp as metal as shivs demonstrate) I would peg paintballs as a more likely gas and topical liquid dispersion system.
I thought the delivery would be either units that release a gas with a possible second stage the neutralizes / absorbs the same gas after a while
boring through armor or finding a vein and then injecting it directly
Injecting into a vein would be extremely difficult. Veins are small, delicate, and hard to detect compared to other tissue.

Injecting into muscle is quite doable.

Boring through armor is a fine idea. Dissolving armor is about equally likely.


The easiest option is the localized area dispersal. Some of these ideas are close, and others are less so, but most of them are at least plausible for Taylor.


*Spoiler* Taylor does build a small dart launcher at some point.


she already has the skin bonding gel down pat if we see tattletale's re-breather
Perhaps not perfectly, but yeah, she's worked out most of the issues.

I like this, really like the thought that went into the power and how they researched the Wards before making a decision. After all it should raise eyebrows that all the Wards go on patrols and that Wards fight villains. Looking forward to more.
Thank you. More is coming and I'm glad you're enjoying it.

Can Taylor make Hollywood style latex masks?
making a malleable yet durable material is well within her skill set, making one look like a human face on the other hand...
And thus Taylors next foray into actions of questionable legality is to use her plastic minons to break into the local waxworks museum and make copies of all the faces. Que Tatletale shoping whilst wearing a Cleopatra face mask.
If Taylor pursues it, she won't be able to make use of it until she passes the Uncanny Valley of facial imitation. Still, once her expertise is advanced enough, it wouldn't be difficult.

As long as she doesn't forget the eyeholes or something silly like that.
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As a general disclaimer to anybody interested in providing inspiration for future chapters or teasing apart the mechanics of this story.

I likely won't use ideas that require me to significantly change the plot or mechanics. I try to think things through as I write, but I've seen too many stories die due to the author trying to revise the original premise. I don't want to try that on my first story. I'd rather accept plotholes than an incomplete story. I'll consider going back and fixing any huge issues after finishing the story, but that feels far off to me. I'm still interested in reading such ideas, but I can only offer likes.
 
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