Metastable

As for organic computers: you can create carbon nanotubes that are conducting, that are semiconductors, and that are non-conducting. Though I don't know if Taylor can do fine manipulation on such scale.

I wonder how Coil interlude (and maybe Undersiders interlude) would look like. Would he still go after Dinah, or was she detected only thanks to Tattletale (perhaps in alt timeline)?
 
Going back to previous chapter, I'm just going to say that I love Amy's internal monologue. Her opinion on Taylor is perfect, far better than most fanon relationships between the two. I can see why many people believe they could be close friends, but I have more than a few reasons why they wouldn't get along.
Thank you.
I hope that it is clear that Taylor remains quite wary of Amy, and Amy is using Taylor as social cover when Amy wants to be left alone. It only works because Vicky and the Wards are good people (Well, Sophia is on the best behavior everyone can force her into acting). Amy, and other teenagers, are awkward and make silly choices sometimes, instead of just reasonably letting your friends know you'd like some space.

Taylor and Amy are slowly warming up to each other as acquaintances, but fast friends they are not. Neither of them want to share secrets and both of them are appreciative that the other doesn't pry.

Clairvoyant that can't read minds
Presumably the thinker can see and hear all around Lisa but can't feel what she feels
If Danny could comment, he'd say he doesn't care what assumptions you make about Coil's power, but he's making as few as he can. As far as Danny is concerned, Coil could be the first telepathic parahuman, and is just waiting for Lisa to get enough information to guess the name 'Hebert', or 'head of the Dockworkers', something like those examples.
If feeling really brave
Danny is not 'feeling really brave', and he'll order Taylor to not be 'feeling really brave' as necessary to keep her safe.

Anyway, what Danny, Taylor, and Lisa currently know about Coil's power is limited to Coil's claim that 'he controls destiny', that his men kidnapped Lisa without giving her power any warning until it was too late, and that he has never appeared to lose. That's quite a dangerous combination given how he treats people.

You and the other readers, that know Coil's actual power, are aware that the Heberts are overestimating Coil's abilities a bit, but Danny is correctly estimating how ruthless Coil is in his treatment of others.

As for organic computers: you can create carbon nanotubes that are conducting, that are semiconductors, and that are non-conducting. Though I don't know if Taylor can do fine manipulation on such scale.
Taylor is not aware of carbon nanotubes, and her power isn't providing insight into such technology at present.

Whether that holds true in the future, I'm going to leave vague.

I wonder how Coil interlude (and maybe Undersiders interlude) would look like. Would he still go after Dinah, or was she detected only thanks to Tattletale (perhaps in alt timeline)?
Coil's thoughts on what happened to Lisa
At this point it's been a while since Lisa vanished. Coil is still looking for her, but he expects she's either skipped town so effectively that he'll never find her, or that he'll find her body in a ditch at some point. He's currently stabilizing his forces and shoring up the loss of analytical ability that Lisa provided.

Lisa was the snarky manipulative heart of the Undersiders. They are stressed and less effective without her.

I'm not going to comment on Dinah. If Lisa was the one to find her, then Lisa might still find her. If Coil found her, then Coil might still find her. If nobody finds her, she'll eventually end up in the Wards. Regardless she'll eventually be at least tangentially plot relevant and so I don't want to give anything away.
 
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Sorry if this has come up before, but
Pi conjugated polymers have been used in transistors, solar cells, super-capacitors and batteries
https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/2000/advanced-chemistryprize2000.pdf
Polypyrrole - Wikipedia

(Sorry for the article paywalls, i normally use school access)
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cm102419z
Nanostructured conductive polypyrrole hydrogels as high-performance, flexible supercapacitor electrodes - Journal of Materials Chemistry A (RSC Publishing)

They have an alternating single/double carbon carbon double bond backbone that causes P orbital delocalization across the chain.
Usually semiconductors, but if you dope them by redox reactions the bipolarons make the charges flow across the backbone making them conductors
Can be flexible, often made in a slurry with nanoparticles for coating for enhanced properties

Currently ndoping them is a lot less stable, which is one of the current problems to solve for transistors and negative battery electrodes, conductivity can be as good as some common metal conductors like copper

Sorry for how long that is, since carbon isn't on her list of common compounds it's probably not even relevant, there are some inorganic ones, but I'm less familiar with their use.
(Maybe possible? Solution-processable conjugated polymers containing alternating 1-alkyl-1,2,4-triazole and N [[double bond, length as m-dash]] S [[double bond, length as m-dash]] N links - Journal of Materials Chemistry (RSC Publishing))
Or poly (sulfur nitride)
But it mightbe something she could work towards later on when she gets a better supply chain going with whatever compounds she can use.

EDIT:
Oh wait, she was using graphite earlier on right?
So probably more relevant than i thought if she's using organic polymers and not just inorganic ones
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Despite the above rant I'm liking the story!
Nice to see things go Taylor's way a little without her immediately turning full extrovert, and I like Tattletale's slide into exuberant sidekick.
Looking forward to seeing where things go.
 
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Hot damn. How many times did he kill the bearer of that news?
No where near as much as he would have liked to in his expendable timelines.

In a variety of dropped universes, the PRT ENE HQ and Protectorate Rig got their security exuberantly stress tested in case Lisa was trying to betray him, or in case they knew where she was hiding.

Nothing came of it, and Coil only got to kill a minion just before dropping those data gathering timelines.



Oh wait, she was using graphite earlier on right?
Graphite, charcoal, uncured wood, and other easy sources of carbon. Taylor wanted those items in that order of priority, because that's a pretty good order of purity. She doesn't need purchased supplies now, as she's mostly self sufficient at harvesting materials. She'd like to go out and buy titanium, but her budget and safety restrictions don't permit that.

Despite the above rant I'm liking the story!
Nice to see things go Taylor's way a little without her immediately turning full extrovert, and I like Tattletale's slide into exuberant sidekick.
Looking forward to seeing where things go.
I found your 'rant' quite interesting, but I can't make much use of the information. Real world science is too complex to fully integrate science fiction technobabble at the level of effort I'm putting into this story. I will add that Taylor's description of her Tinker specialty is based on her understanding of it, and that she hasn't taken even just high school chemistry yet.

I tried to define each character's base personality, and then have them react to situations from that foundation, rather than put them into situations that change them. Ideally such situations will change them slowly, but I try to avoid putting them into situations in order to change them.

I'm glad you're enjoying the story and hope you continue to find it nice.
 
She'd like to go out and buy titanium, but her budget and safety restrictions don't permit that.
She can likely get some out of the ships there in the bay. Titanium alloys of various sorts are used in small amounts in ship building after all. I will also point out titanium is actually really common. The reason its expensive is that refining it into usable form is difficult and inefficient. Refining it shouldnt be a problem for Taylor so she could just find a deposit and design a worker to mine her own. Trace amounts of titanium can be found everywhere. Its the ninth most common element in the earths crust. Hell mine it underwater. Theres stupid amounts of mineral deposits in the ocean we dont use because of the difficulty of underwater mining for humans.
 
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Hell mine it underwater. Theres stupid amounts of mineral deposits in the ocean we dont use because of the difficulty of underwater mining for humans
shes got filtering membranes and sea access. she could get a ton of stuff just by sifting seawater.

ELEMENT

MOLECULAR WEIGHT

PPM IN SEAWATER

MOLAR CONCENTRATION

Chloride

35.4

18980

0.536158

Sodium

23

10561

0.459174

Magnesium

24.3

1272

0.052346

Sulfur

32

884

0.027625

Calcium

40

400

0.01

Potassium

39.1

380

0.009719

Bromine

79.9

65

0.000814

Carbon(inorganic)

12

28

0.002333

Strontium

87.6

13

0.000148

Boron

10.8

4.6

0.000426

Silicon

28.1

4

0.000142

Carbon (organic)

12

3

0.00025

Aluminum

27

1.9

0.00007

Fluorine

19

1.4

0.000074

N as nitrate

14

0.7

0.00005

Nitrogen (organic)

14

0.2

0.000014

Rubidium

85

0.2

0.0000024

Lithium

6.9

0.1

0.000015

P as Phosphate

31

0.1

0.0000032

Copper

63.5

0.09

0.0000014

Barium

137

0.05

0.00000037

Iodine

126.9

0.05

0.00000039

N as nitrite

14

0.05

0.0000036

N as ammonia

14

0.05

0.0000036

Arsenic

74.9

0.024

0.00000032

Iron

55.8

0.02

0.00000036

P as organic

31

0.016

0.00000052

Zinc

65.4

0.014

0.00000021

Manganese

54.9

0.01

0.00000018

Lead

207.2

0.005

0.000000024

Selenium

79

0.004

0.000000051

Tin

118.7

0.003

0.000000025

Cesium

132.9

0.002

0.000000015

Molybdenum

95.9

0.002

0.000000021

Uranium

238

0.0016

0.0000000067

Gallium

69.7

0.0005

0.0000000072

Nickel

58.7

0.0005

0.0000000085

Thorium

232

0.0005

0.0000000022

Cerium

140

0.0004

0.0000000029

Vanadium

50.9

0.0003

0.0000000059

Lanthanum

139.9

0.0003

0.0000000022

Yttrium

88.9

0.0003

0.0000000034

Mercury

200.6

0.0003

0.0000000015

Silver

107.9

0.0003

0.0000000028

Bismuth

209

0.0002

0.00000000096

Cobalt

58.9

0.0001

0.0000000017

Gold

197

0.000008

0.00000000004

plus runoff from nearby cities she has not infested with her creepy crawlies
 
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She can likely get some out of the ships there in the bay. Titanium alloys of various sorts are used in small amounts in ship building after all. I will also point out titanium is actually really common. The reason its expensive is that refining it into usable form is difficult and inefficient. Refining it shouldnt be a problem for Taylor so she could just find a deposit and design a worker to mine her own. Trace amounts of titanium can be found everywhere. Its the ninth most common element in the earths crust. Hell mine it underwater. Theres stupid amounts of mineral deposits in the ocean we dont use because of the difficulty of underwater mining for humans.
shes got filtering membranes and sea access. she could get a ton of stuff just by sifting seawater.
Rubidium MW: 85 PPM: 0.2
So, weirdly enough @globalwarmth, your table didn't include titanium... I picked rubidium as my example. It was the first difficult to acquire metal that jumped out at me.

If Taylor wants a liter of Rubidium (~1.5 kg), she'd have to filter 5 million liters of sea water, which is about 2 olympic sized swimming pools.

There are a couple problems with this:
  • Infrastructure: Taylor lacks it. She simply doesn't have enough stuff to process that amount of water in a reasonable time frame
  • The Protectorate would totally notice that amount of water being moved around. It would tear up the seafloor and it would noticeably adjust ocean currents. Basically, it'd be obvious. Well, unless she did it so slowly that she'd still prefer to just buy the material in question. The curse of tinkertech means the slower you are the accomplish something, the added time of repairing the device doing the job makes it several times worse.
  • Specialized membranes only get one material, and Taylor needs a wide variety. Ant and turtle units don't even use titanium. Only Squiggles and the power armor suit use it. Dedicated collection of a single resource is non-viable.
Now, to be very clear, @Kitsunedarkfire, you are completely accurate in what Taylor could do, but enacting your solution would have trade offs that Taylor can't manage right now. The only point I hadn't considered at all was straight up mining off the sea floor. However, her units aren't suited to mining. She'd need to build a specialized one, and while she could do that, the finding of nodules of ore would require a grid search or other extensive surveying and that has unacceptably high odds of Armsmaster or some other security group on the Protectorate Rig in the bay noticing. I assume that the Rig has sensors looking for stuff approaching it underwater.

Anyway, Lisa is already guiding Taylor's units in harvesting metals and materials from sunken wrecks. This includes titanium and other materials. Turtle units also already collect dissolved metals from fluid containing pipes in the city, and many of those sources are at higher concentrations than is naturally found in seawater.

I do like your comments and greatly appreciate the table and the thoughts about the sea floor mining. Currently the security concerns overrule them, but I'll be using the table to have an idea of what materials are hard for her to get, and if Taylor, and Danny, feel secure enough, underwater mining is a likely eventual thing. Although, Taylor would prefer to eat away the ruined ships first to clear out the bay.
 
I was thinking of huge sheets of membranes (like solar sail big) to maximize surface area and not churn up the sea. Would have been incredibly thin and work by filtering incoming and outgoing tides.

But yeah, that still does go against the economy of scale tinketech limitation.

(Someday, with Masamune. Someday:rolleyes:)
 
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According to some random website I googled, Titanium Dioxide paint can be purchased for less than $10. You won't get much, about 100 grams, obviously with better prices when you buy more at once. Concentration is anywhere from 1-10% by volume. Just have Danny go to the local home improvement store / paint shop and get a gallon bucket.
 
According to some random website I googled, Titanium Dioxide paint can be purchased for less than $10. You won't get much, about 100 grams, obviously with better prices when you buy more at once. Concentration is anywhere from 1-10% by volume. Just have Danny go to the local home improvement store / paint shop and get a gallon bucket.
and y'know, white paint in old buildings

been using it since people found lead was toxic. Titanium dioxide - Wikipedia
 
According to some random website I googled, Titanium Dioxide paint can be purchased for less than $10.
and y'know, white paint.
You two aren't my favorite people at the moment.

Bleah, that's a plothole I can't fix with just a thought.

The helium thing was planned, but this, this is a problem.

Hmm, let's say for now that Danny is buying an average of about 4 gallons of white paint a month, paying in cash. That's where Taylor got the titanium for her squiggles, but Danny isn't willing to do a bulk commercial purchase.

Furthermore, the armor that Lisa wears has a helmet that's mostly titanium. That's a lot of metal right there, and there's plenty more as bracing throughout the exoskeleton-like suit.

I think that would roughly account for most of the metal that Taylor is now magically (realistically) using in her tinkering.

Does that seem reasonable to you lot?


Finally, thank you @globalwarmth and @Astikoes for pointing out a continuity error that I can't easily handwave away.

Please report to the defenestration floor of the building to join eternal-potato, the prior person to point out such a problem, for your reward.
;-)
 
You two aren't my favorite people at the moment.

Bleah, that's a plothole I can't fix with just a thought.

The helium thing was planned, but this, this is a problem.

Hmm, let's say for now that Danny is buying an average of about 4 gallons of white paint a month, paying in cash. That's where Taylor got the titanium for her squiggles, but Danny isn't willing to do a bulk commercial purchase.

Furthermore, the armor that Lisa wears has a helmet that's mostly titanium. That's a lot of metal right there, and there's plenty more as bracing throughout the exoskeleton-like suit.

I think that would roughly account for most of the metal that Taylor is now magically (realistically) using in her tinkering.

Does that seem reasonable to you lot?


Finally, thank you @globalwarmth and @Astikoes for pointing out a continuity error that I can't easily handwave away.

Please report to the defenestration floor of the building to join eternal-potato, the prior person to point out such a problem, for your reward.
;-)
Ok got to do it. Sunscreen and most white cake frostings have titanium in them as well.
 
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aren't large amounts of unusual products exactly the kind of stuff gangs and the prt watch for?
the dockworkers do construction work I believe. They could also do a much needed home renovation, paint the house, repair the rotten step, bond as family...:p

plenty of justification for carbide drills, some special metal nails, epoxy, paint, plastics. all in home depot
 
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We're talking about lifting properties, for balloons and such:

dry air 1.29
methane 0.716
helium 0.179
hydrogen 0.09
vacuum 0

1l of vacuum can lift 1.29 g
1l of hydrogen can lift 1.2 g
1l helium can lift 1.111 g
1l methane can lift 0.574 g

If half of your hydrogen balloon weight is the envelope, then filling it with methane instead means that now you can't have anything else in your design, and, talking about blimps, only half weight envelope might be generous, cuz that means half is payload.

EDIT: added vacuum. It's not that great! Nevermind the pressure differential which is equivalent to 921mph winds, according to the wind-velocity chart @ Wind Velocity Chart « National Certified Testing Laboratories, Inc.
I admit, I never considered vacuum as a lifting gas before. Though now that you have I can totally see it. The issue of course being that then you have to design your balloon's backwards to prevent outside force from crushing it rather than inside force exploding it!

Edited as Tomel's post below so clearly puts it. I was trying to say what he said but screwed it up when typing.
 
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I admit, I never considered vacuum as a lifting gas before. Though now that you have I can totally see it. The issue of course being that then you have to design your balloonspacecraft backwards to prevent outwardinward force from crushing it rather than inwardoutward force collapsingexploding it!

Edit: fixed it up for you, and for me too, you got me all confused here, lol

What outward force exploding it up? Maybe if you mean spacecraft, not balloons. Balloons work with equal pressure inside and out. Our spacecraft (ISS modules) pressure hulls on the other hand are still about 10x heavier than a corresponding volume of air, and they work by tension, so you can't just turn one into it's opposite, i.e. a vacuum balloon. Working by compression is another kettle of fish, it's sharks with lasers all the way down. There's a reason that ancient compression architecture is simply massive while the modern tension designs appear to be mostly made of air. The engineering and material challenge is such that we'll probably have people building the space elevators in their garage before we can have vacuum balloons.

You know, I added that vacuum bit to dissuade people from thinking about vacuum balloons. The lifting power is barely any better... maybe if you were an alien species living in an hydrogen atmosphere and you really needed to have a party complete with balloons just like the ones you saw in the historical documents.

Fortunately here we can just use a forcefield! But even so, this would be a major accomplishment even in Wormverse. You'd be classified as a 10+ after the first sighting of your forcefield vacuum balloons, since the feat is equivalent to maintaining a forcefield inside the 'complete destruction' area of a city destroying nuke that never stops exploding.
 
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Why the need for electricity or trying to build an organic computer?

Building a computer (digital or analogue) is possible with just about anything as the base.

I am sure that if Taylor tried she could build logic gates and eventually CPUs out of stuff like Reversible-deactivation radical polymerization, which with a bit of tinker bullshit should be leverageable into building an entirely plastic and chemical based computer. If humans are basically thinking meat and computers are rocks that we taught how to think, teaching plastic that trick would be hard and it might be slow by comparison, but with enough tinker bullshit it should be possible to make it work.
 
Ok got to do it. Sunscreen and most white cake frostings have titanium in them as well.
I see.

I appreciate your help.

I bet you were or are one of those precocious children.

;-)

aren't large amounts of unusual products exactly the kind of stuff gangs and the prt watch for?
the dockworkers do construction work I believe. They could also do a much needed home renovation, paint the house, repair the rotten step, bond as family...:p

plenty of justification for carbide drills, some special metal nails, epoxy, paint, plastics. all in home depot
True, but Danny doesn't know how the tracking works and is trying to avoid everything that could give away Taylor's status as a Tinker. Taylor has gone through the house pretty enthusiastically to collect anything and everything that has elements that she wants and doesn't have sentimental value.


I admit, I never considered vacuum as a lifting gas before. Though now that you have I can totally see it. The issue of course being that then you have to design your balloon's backwards to prevent outside force from crushing it rather than inside force exploding it!

Edited as Tomel's post below so clearly puts it. I was trying to say what he said but screwed it up when typing.

What inward force collapsing it? Maybe if you mean spacecraft, not balloons. Balloons work with equal pressure inside and out. Our spacecraft (ISS modules) pressure hulls on the other hand are still about 10x heavier than a corresponding volume of air, and they work by tension. Working by compression is another kettle of fish, it's sharks with lasers all the way down. There's a reason that ancient compression architecture is simply massive while the modern tension designs appear to be mostly made of air. The engineering and material challenge is such that we'll probably have people building the space elevators in their garage before we can have vacuum balloons.
I'm not sure I understood your post, but the inward force that tries to collapse a hypothetical vacuum balloon is from the pressure difference betwen the internal and external environment. Most balloons are flexible, and so while they're less dense than the surrounding air, they're also at the same pressure. A vacuum balloon is not at the same pressure and the atmosphere pushes on it, requiring bracing to stop it from collapsing.


Huh.

@Tascion I think you might need a science Beta.


Why the need for electricity or trying to build an organic computer?

Building a computer (digital or analogue) is possible with just about anything as the base.

I am sure that if Taylor tried she could build logic gates and eventually CPUs out of stuff like Reversible-deactivation radical polymerization, which with a bit of tinker bullshit should be leverageable into building an entirely plastic and chemical based computer. If humans are basically thinking meat and computers are rocks that we taught how to think, teaching plastic that trick would be hard and it might be slow by comparison, but with enough tinker bullshit it should be possible to make it work.
@Loki-L, I appreciate your eagerness to discuss Metastable, but please refrain from discussing the workings of Taylor's Matrix Processor until chapter 5.1, where the device in question is given a name. You're jumping the gun by almost a full story arc.

Also, it's analog, not digital. It's functionality is closer to a cluster of memristors rather than silicon based transistors and logic gates.
 
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man, I cant wait the coil bit is done so Lisa can dispel some of that paranoia and connect them to the number man and other back channels
 
I'm not sure I understood your post, but the inward force that tries to collapse a hypothetical vacuum balloon is from the pressure difference betwen the internal and external environment. Most balloons are flexible, and so while they're less dense than the surrounding air, they're also at the same pressure. A vacuum balloon is not at the same pressure and the atmosphere pushes on it, requiring bracing to stop it from collapsing.
In an ordinary balloon, the inward and the outward forces are balanced.
In a vacuum balloon the *outside* inward force is dominant.
In a spaceship, which is sort of like an inverted vacuum balloon, it's the opposite.
When Skychan mentioned designing balloons backwards I concluded that what had to be designed backwards was actually a spaceship and run with it.

*ugh, my previous post would make more sense if you replaced inward with outward. Since Skychan's post got me all confused too and I didn't even notice. What I meant was inside and outside. :le sigh:
 
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4.2 The First Gambit
4.2 The First Gambit
They were beautiful, and I loved them. I would call them jellies. Similar in appearance to a squiggle, more so than the other two unit types anyway, a jelly was a baseball sized unit with a dozen delicate arms floating beneath it. They were like floppy water balloons that gracefully bounced along the ground on slender legs. Each one weighed only a few grams, thanks to the methane contained within it, and even better, it had a small catalyst driven polymer absorption system that could reversibly inflate the floating body with methane. This was also my first production line unit that could recharge outside my base. The methane would be reacted to drive regeneration of the used up chemical chain energy sources that powered my units. I had to extract and replace that energy goo for the ants and squiggles. Which was fine, because they would usually need repairs anyway. The turtles were of course disposable, being almost purely carbon, nitrogen, some sulfur, and other common elements. The only part of them that came back were the memory matrices passed amongst each other and any raw materials. For longer term observation though, the ability to recharge in the field was necessary for my jellies, and so, they could recharge by refilling with methane.

Befitting their role of infiltration units, a jelly could shrink down into a minimum diameter of about a pencil while remaining mobile. It could pull itself along using 6 of its arms, while the remainder contained tools. A sound recorder, good for about 7 hours before needing an ant or squiggle to replace the memory matrix, a chemical sensor, an acid etcher, a light sensor, and the last two arms were for my crowning achievement of the month, single use self-contained variable color smart gel extruders.

I chose to believe that I had been simply too excited to explain properly the first time I tried to tell my dad how they worked, because he hasn't been sufficiently excited.

The ability to hide the holes I would need to cut to get into the lair where Coil was hiding made everything so much easier. I would still be careful though during infiltration of course.

I had been having trouble with the mapping these past few weeks. I had a complete model of all the sewer and water pipes around the downtown lair, but Coil used filters for the incoming water pipes. I could program my units to bore a hole, but I assumed that he changed the filters at least occasionally, and boring a hole would be rather obvious. The outgoing sewer pipes were fully mapped though, he thought some kind of valve thing was sufficient protection. It was not.

I was seriously considering making an exit airlock from one such pipe to provide me access to the base. I could order my jellies or ants to crawl out of a toilet, but they'd need at least 15 minutes to clean themselves up and even then, assuming no evidence was left behind, I would not know if they were being watched the entire time on a camera.

No, I needed an option that was secure, and that's where my second unit of the month came into play. Based off my mole miner back from the library job, the mini-tunneler would bore down an inch wide column into the ceilings of the various rooms. The drill tip was more like an acid etch process. I'd been very careful with the design. The acid would only break down concrete. The mini-tunnelers would have to get lucky to avoid rebar, but if they did, the cone tip would slowly cut through the estimated three feet of the concrete roof, culminating in a hole the ceiling about the size of the roller ball in one of the chunky pens I had to use for school. Even better, if the ceilings were painted, there was a chance the paint wouldn't be breached, leaving an intact disguise over the hole.

The jellies would take over from there. Each hole, if opened, would be capped with smart gel, and otherwise the jellies would just listen. Dad and I would review the recordings, which was going to be a giant pain, even though I had figured out a fast forward button for my tech's version of a sound recorder. Still, once we found Coil's office, things would get easier, and then we'd decide what to do from there.

Tattletale was becoming a problem, albeit in a good way. Her lair, well, it was on loan from me, let her breathe fresher air, but she was getting itchy to do something about Coil, so that she could go outside in her civilian ID. Being on land though, and with actual air circulation, we had immediately gotten her a propane stove. It was at least some consolation for her. Until Coil was handled, Tattletale was compromised, as we didn't know how his power worked, and it had been proven that he could extract information from her without her knowledge. Her main demand would be met today. Dad had purchased a burner phone with several gigs of internet data, and I was putting it in her care package for the evening. Along with a small bottle of ibuprofen, since I expected her to abuse her power. Previously, Dad had been unwilling to give her a phone that could potentially be traced to the shipwreck lair. After dad had accepted that Tattletale was probably not a Changer cape trying to infiltrate our family to kidnap me, he had started to get parental about Tattletale. He had even gotten her some weird UV light since she wasn't getting any sunlight.

Her raiding of the Merchants occasionally had not actually otherwise affected us much. We had a lot of cash, that I had chemically cleaned, but mostly it was in a pile in the basement. Suddenly having a lot of money was a great way to out me as somebody interesting. Mostly it paid for Tattletale's food and supplies and built us up a nest egg in case of emergencies. Spending unusual amounts of money on mundane stuff? That's weird. Suddenly having a few thousand because you broke your leg? Less weird, because now it matters enough to dig out resources. At least, that was dad's reasoning and it made sense to me.

Anyway, keeping Tattletale safe and happy was irritatingly mutually exclusive. She has a few goals to keep her busy. First, use my map of the city and her upcoming internet access, to help me ruin Coil, allowing me to claim the downtown lair. The second and a much more minor goal was to locate Squealer's tinkerlab, and help me develop a plan to steal all her tinker materials, or even vehicles. I doubt I'd get much from her tech, but she had to have a lot of metal, and I wanted that. Lastly, Tattletale needed to decide what to do with her future. As long as she did the occasional raid for cash, we could readily support her. After all her help, well, I'd like her to join a team with me. She could keep raiding, but we could cooperatively improve more of the underlying problems of the bay, like identifying all the locations of all the safehouses of all the gangs, then collaborating with the PRT to hit then all in rapid succession. The PRT could send teams to take each one or even just stall for time, while maybe the Protectorate could travel as a group, forcing all the capes in a gang to show up, or lose everything in the safehouse. The gang capes wouldn't be able to defend, being stuck in fights with the Protectorate, and the PRT would eventually overpower the regular gang members.

I could avoid any attention, and then join the Protectorate when I was an adult, and make my official debut as a hero. By then my armor would be pretty capable, I hoped.

Of course, if Tattletale wanted to be a villain, then dad had said it would be best to let her go do her own thing. Trying to force her to be good via our working relationship would be asking for betrayal, especially after her experiences with Coil.

Tattletale had also asked about her former team. She had explained their powers. Grue's darkness, Regent's muscle spasms, and Bitch's 'make super dogs'. She expected that Coil had brought them deeper his organization, since they still appeared to be a team. They weren't doing too much though. Occasional robberies and stuff.

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The mini-tunnelers and jellies had worked, I could record sound in all rooms of his base. Or, at least I think I could. Expecting his base to be laid out like an Endbringer shelter had been a foolish oversight. I wasn't sure I have all the rooms covered. In fact, I probably didn't. I was already creating more eavesdropping points, but there was another problem. 15 jellies, recording even just only conversation, produced a hundred or so hours of talk everyday. Dad was willing to be patient, and accepted that we'd miss things going through them. I wanted to bring in Tattletale. If Coil could still get information from her, he wouldn't be looking for her, and he was. Months after she vanished, and he's still got his mercenaries looking for her. They watch the market, the mall, and apparently a safe house Coil says she doesn't know he knows about.

He hasn't said anything about me. Well, I didn't think so anyway. I hadn't found his office yet, but he really liked walking around and talking to his mercenaries about once a day when he showed up in the evenings, so that was something, and of course they talked about their individual goals. Tattletale was an occasional one, right behind a protection racket. The Undersiders regularly hit places around the edges of Coil's territory, implying that his gang kept the businesses safe because they were paying him.

I wanted to give Tattletale the recordings. Dad wanted to wait. I brought up the argument again after dinner.

"Why would Coil be faking? He has to be unaware that I've infiltrated the downtown lair. If we let Tattletale analyze this information, she could do it so much better than us, and she has the time. I've got school, you've got work, we're too busy to listen to the rambling of an entire lair."

Dad sighed in frustration as we collected the dishes. "A gang is like a business. They've got to take a long view if they want to last. Coil could easily know through Tattletale that were interested in him. He keeps a minor amount of demonstrative interest in her, so that she has to seek allies, and then he snatches you both when he needs Tattletale again. Until the opportunity to get you both outweighs the lack of just Tattletale, he has no reason to bother kidnapping her again. We could always just tell the PRT the location of his base. Coil may have enough secret tunnels to get himself and his men out, but that lair had to be the majority of his physical resources. Even if the PRT leaks like a sieve, they'd still jump on that lair, and that would seriously cripple him."

"Yeah, but it wouldn't stop him, and I agreed to do your plan, rather than going out and being an active hero in the city because I believed that I could make a real difference, actually get rid of a gang, not just make them retreat a while."

"You're making a difference, Taylor, and Tattletale using your armor lets you do both. I want you to be safe. I'm proud you want to help and be a hero, but being a smart one is better than getting hurt. Making Coil's gang die from dozens of small losses, and losing a supervillain lair is by no means small. No matter how much he evacuates from it."

"No matter how much?" I slowly start to grin as a plan dad will accept occurs to me.

"What are you thinking Taylor? That's the happy smile when you think you're going to teach your old man to suck eggs."

"Let's cut our losses, in the most conclusive way we can. We give Tattletale the recordings, but not meet with her. Either she helps, or betrays us. Coil is small compared to every other gang, he cannot accept the loss of that lair. He'll have to evacuate if Tattletale starts listening and he's still monitoring her. I'll record Tattletale, and if Coil does react, we can confirm that she can't help but share the info, either by betrayal or Coil's power. Either we win and can eventually crush Coil's gang, or we roll the dice by alerting the PRT to his lair. Also, you've been the one most worried about Tattletale's social stuff. This cuts through all the problems as safely as possible for us, and quickly too."

"You can be awfully like your mother, you're her little owl. We'll do your plan then. You've got a head on your shoulders and a big heart, and I love you too."

"Thanks dad. Let's start the plan tomorrow then. Maybe we can just watch a movie tonight."

I'm proud and happy to be like mom, but it still hurts. I think it's worth it though. Dad and I are getting better about the talking thing I think. I probably owe Kurt and Lacey some cookies or something. Dad goes drinking and catches a game with them twice a month or so, and he's usually less willing to let bad stuff slide afterwards and tries to build on the good.
 
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I love the way they're being smart about this; drawing incorrect but reasonable conclusions from their observations, then conservatively hedging around those conclusions when they make their plans.
 
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