[] 'Wish to never let you or anyone you love fall into despair.'
I'm making an amura compatible version
[x]Wish to never become really sad! And that no one else will ever be really sad and be mean.
 
Thinking about phrasing, but why don't we have Madoka come with us while looping? Or are we not sure if we can actually loop yet?

I think you guys are being a bit too ambitious with the strength of your wishes.

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[] Wish for Pink Girl to always stay with Best Cat.
 
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[X] Pink girl will hunt with you, yay!
-[X] But wait, to hunt with you Pink girl has to be with Bunnycat, and you were very firm about your territory!
--[X] Also didn't Green girl say there was something bad about wishes? Your wish was good but you are best cat! And you remember thinking Bunnycat was wrong and suspicious when you first met and Best Cat senses never lie.
[X] Maybe... Don't wish yet?

This is good too:
Wish to never become really sad! And that no one else will ever be really sad and be mean.
 
[X] Pink girl will hunt with you, yay!
-[X] But wait, to hunt with you Pink girl has to be with Bunnycat, and you were very firm about your territory!
--[X] Also didn't Green girl say there was something bad about wishes? Your wish was good but you are best cat! And you remember thinking Bunnycat was wrong and suspicious when you first met and Best Cat senses never lie.
[X] Maybe... Don't wish yet?
 
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[X] Pink girl will hunt with you, yay!
-[X] But wait, to hunt with you Pink girl has to be with Bunnycat, and you were very firm about your territory!
--[X] Also didn't Green girl say there was something bad about wishes? Your wish was good but you are best cat! And you remember thinking Bunnycat was wrong and suspicious when you first met and Best Cat senses never lie.
[X] Maybe... Don't wish yet?
 
Why do we not want her to wish yet? Let's examine this vote.

[X] Pink girl will hunt with you, yay!
-[X] But wait, to hunt with you Pink girl has to be with Bunnycat, and you were very firm about your territory!
--[X] Also didn't Green girl say there was something bad about wishes? Your wish was good but you are best cat! And you remember thinking Bunnycat was wrong and suspicious when you first met and Best Cat senses never lie.
[X] Maybe... Don't wish yet?

First, Madoka doesn't have to be with Kyuubey any more than we do, so I'm not sure where that comes from. She has to make a wish with him and drop off grief seeds, but other than that no interaction is strictly necessary.

Second, our initial impression of Kyuubey was negative, because we thought he didn't grant our wish. We were then immediately proved wrong. So why are we still clinging to this idea that Amura distrusts Kyuubey?

Third, what benefit does not wishing bring us? How is this vote anything but the people who were metagaming last vote saying, "well, we might have been outvoted then, but if we keep beating the same drum, eventually we'll win?" Especially since the pro wish vote is going to be divided among different wishes.

@TheBleachDoctor I take issue with us being able to immediately go from "yes, you should wish" to "no, don't wish", just because some people are unhappy with how the previous vote went. What was the point of us voting to be in favor of the contract if other people can just say "no wait, never mind"?
 
First, Madoka doesn't have to be with Kyuubey any more than we do, so I'm not sure where that comes from. She has to make a wish with him and drop off grief seeds, but other than that no interaction is strictly necessary.

Second, our initial impression of Kyuubey was negative, because we thought he didn't grant our wish. We were then immediately proved wrong. So why are we still clinging to this idea that Amura distrusts Kyuubey?

Third, what benefit does not wishing bring us? How is this vote anything but the people who were metagaming last vote saying, "well, we might have been outvoted then, but if we keep beating the same drum, eventually we'll win?" Especially since the pro wish vote is going to be divided among different wishes.
I was going of Amura's incorrect impression of the contracts which seemed to, in her mind, give Kyubey an "in" on Madoka she didn't want.

I was thinking back to when we were just a cat as opposed to Amura, we thought he smelled 'wrong' so I'm trying to tap into that as a source of distrust.

To be fair Amura changes her mind a lot, often on fairly random whims, and we've been metagaming to some extent since the start.
 
Wish for whatever it is you would wish for if you knew everything about the situation and how wishes work as well as having the advise of intelligent trustworthy people.

Not only does this metagame the wish, but the phrasing synchronizes with a very specific power set.

Can Amura express that message in some form?
 
[x] Pink Girl Madoka should wish to be a strong cat, like you! Then you would be Best Cats together!
 
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We need to remember this is Loop 1 Madoka. Not that much potential.

Maybe...

[X] "Wish to be Best Hunter! Then you'll beat Upside-Down Girl! Or just Wish to not be killed!"

Simple enough. Doesn't stop Witch-out, but we can Cat her Soul Gem if she starts despairing.

Yes, it isn't a single clear Wish, but it gets across the idea of Wishing for something that will keep her alive.
 
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[X] "Wish to be Best Hunter! Then you'll beat Upside-Down Girl! Or just Wish to not be killed!"
 
[X] "Wish to be Best Hunter! Then you'll beat Upside-Down Girl!
 
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Is it just me, or does anyone else see a lobotomy in the future if this wins?
Not a lobotomy: That'd be twisting the Wish, which isn't how PMMM Wishes work. That said, making Wishes that alter your own feelings is very dangerous...kinda bad if your friends die and you're still happy. It's not quite sociopathy, but....the inability of feel significant sadness or guilt is not good for anyone's mind, even Madoka's.
 
Not a lobotomy: That'd be twisting the Wish, which isn't how PMMM Wishes work. That said, making Wishes that alter your own feelings is very dangerous...kinda bad if your friends die and you're still happy. It's not quite sociopathy, but....the inability of feel significant sadness or guilt is not good for anyone's mind, even Madoka's.

I agree. Also it seems more in character to suggest that Madoka becomes a strong hunter or a strong cat.
 
@TheBleachDoctor I take issue with us being able to immediately go from "yes, you should wish" to "no, don't wish", just because some people are unhappy with how the previous vote went. What was the point of us voting to be in favor of the contract if other people can just say "no wait, never mind"?
It think it's pretty clear that Madoka is all in favor of contracting at this point. All anyone can do really is guide her wish.
 
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