Cybandeath
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you must remember trump rode the anti establishment and leftist economics through the primary and through the election.
MakeAmericaSaneAgain. A 2016 political campaign.
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Don't forget the free media coverage. Turns out if you keep saying outrageous things, then the media will repeat what you said for at least the rest of the day. Which means the news doesn't talk about policies, just personalities... and sometimes it looked like Hillary struggled to connect with people.
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Valkur
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Looked?
Hold on let me find a 'Hillay panders video':
'are you pandering to black people'
'is it working?'
Theirs also the fact that i don't even know what her natural accent is because she changes it ALL THE TIME. Southern born girl? New Yorker?
Anyways we shoudn't worry about Hilary and look to start trashing back everyone by firing off next round/show me thinks.
Hows this for a tweet:
'If you look closely everyone had to dog pile me to keep from stealing the spotlight. None of them have even talked about a single policy they want to presume, they just talk about values or ideas. All these washington insiders are doing is pandering to their donors for more money.'
...Cruz is freaking dangerous. There are a lot of 'moderate' candidates like Rubio splitting votes with Pataki. Even Trump is a moderate to some extent. Cruz being the only real memorable candidate to appeal to the 'true conservatives' AND not looking like an ass on the issues means he's going to have a solid base.
We may need to find some dirt on him if he keeps this up.
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A note about stats: the numbers don't mean "Charisma 2" -- it means that the candidate receives +2 from their Charisma, compared to a baseline of 3. Given that we're talking about Presidential politics in an age of mass media, it's rare to see anyone at this level with Charisma of less than that.
In this instance, Trump actually has a charisma rating of 5 (which makes sense, given that he's a media celebrity), while Ted Cruz is rated at 4.
The same system (baseline = 3, scores give up to +/-2) also applies to 'Debate' and 'Issue Familiarity'. (@The Karvoka Man, hope this is okay to clarify the formula...)
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Cruz got 25% of the vote in the primary. Huckabee and Santorum got 20 in '08 and '12 respectively. Cruz also stayed in longer and had some "Never Trump" backing. We're not going to pick up the values voters. We're never going to pick up the values voters (until the general). Don't panic about the values voters.
Also, gotta quibble with a guy who has a face as punchable as Ted Cruz's having a Charisma of 4.
Also, gotta quibble with a guy who has a face as punchable as Ted Cruz's having a Charisma of 4.
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So, as I get started, I want to know how much of the debate transcript you guys want to see. You'll get the intro, partly because I want to show off the chaos you all caused with Harry's beanslide, but after that?
Yeah, it's fine. I was probably going to have to explain it eventually.
Love him or hate him (probably hate him), Ted Cruz was very good at motivating the republican right, and if not for Teflon Don, might've actually won the nomination.
All of it! Every jot and tittle!
...Err,
maybe not quite so much. I'd be fine if you just gave us the intro plus any debate 'highlights' that would show up in the next day's news cycle. Though if you could also give us Pataki's responses (so we have some idea of what to work on), that'd be helpful as well.Incidentally: did we ever get the 'Abortion' question (or can we save that for a future debate?)
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All of it! Every jot and tittle!
...Err,
Incidentally: did we ever get the 'Abortion' question (or can we save that for a future debate?)
Major highlights of people attacking Pataki would be wanted. We have to know how they're holding us down.
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You did, it was deflected, and the plank release helped cover your collective asses.
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Aren't there videos of him rehearsing things with his wife when he first started or some such?
Anyways for him we can nail him on being robotic and his failure to pass much. Or I think he never passed much. Not sure yet.
Republican prisons are really scary, eh?
You're thinking of Rubio. The 'robot' label came from Christie, which worked mainly because Rubio basically rolled several 'natural 0's on stage that day. (It would have fallen flat in any previous debate, where Rubio dominated with charisma).
Ironically enough, Rubio himself pulled off the same line of attack against Trump in a later debate ("lines around the states") which worked out pretty well.
The problem with the 'robot' argument is that it's true of every politician. Every one on stage prepares and recited canned lines, usually taken from their stump speech. Calling someone robotic is basically saying that they're not experienced enough, to pull off those canned lines as though they were original.
...Not that the attack doesn't or can't work -- as we saw with Rubio, it was devastating.
I'm just pointing out the fact that the attack is pretty brazenly unfair.
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Nothing is fair in love and war. They should add polotics also.
The question is will it work or not? I'm arguing to attack and unbalance our foes. Basically go all out and rip someone. Crucify them. An then stand on their corpses.
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That usually doesn't work unless you've got a scandal. The more vehement you are in attacking them, the more likely it is that you will look like a sore loser. The key in politics these days is 'cute' comments and acting dismissive. Fortunately, that's something that Pataki can do pretty well if we get him some screen time.
Teflon Don (or, why it's near-impossible to attack the GOP front-runner)
Here you go:
As for Minor Planks:
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KarvokaQueen
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Oh, I just remembered. I should explain the undercard debate. It's unlikely to actually matter at this stage, but is anyone curious as to how it went?
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Valkur
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When did this turn into UFC?
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Should give us a good idea on who we should consider adding to Team Paniski after said individuals drop out.