- Location
- United States
Given the Belkan's love of genetic engineering, I imagine Taylor and Annette would have lifespans notably longer than human norm. Not in the realms of centuries or anything, but I can see possibly 130 years of life.
Magical Tinker Lyrical Taylor Worm/MGLN
- Thread starter Hoyden
- Start date
Given the Belkan's love of genetic engineering, I imagine Taylor and Annette would have lifespans notably longer than human norm. Not in the realms of centuries or anything, but I can see possibly 130 years of life.
Any less than 200 would break my SoD. Either don't have it or treat it at least somewhat plausible.
What, you don't think Belkan infrastructure is required for any of that time extension?
Your SoD must be pretty fragile.
omake - knightmare
Hoyden
Hugbot v0.28
- Location
- UK
So many knight puns, so little time.
omake - knightmare
A blonde haired girl stands frozen, her gaze directly facing the camera. A collection of bodies, limbs twisted unnaturally litters the street around her. The snake themed villan flinched slightly before discarding the timeline. Two squads, brutally dismantled in under five minutes, it was quite frankly terrifying what the child soldier could do. Vista, Missy Byron, youngest yet most experienced Ward in Brockton Bay. He hadn't even been aiming for her, his men attempting to snatch the Mayor's niece, the pre-teen could be used as leverage, but beyond that she had been repeatedly telling all who would listen that she could see the future.
Obviously such a rare tallent couldn't be wasted on any of the other gangs, or worse, the Wards. No, he needed her, at the very least to deny her possible powers to anyone other than himself. Today's attempt was the lattest of many, each confined to a discarded timeline leaving none but himself any wiser to his plans. No, he was rapidly coming to the conclusion that a simple snatch and grab wouldn't work. Each time he had tried he'd been countered by the heroes, or rather, by Vista. This latest attempt had been opertunistic, his men had spotted the Alcott girl eating ice cream with friends, supervision seemed lax and the local Protectorate was dealing with an incident on the other side of the bay.
It seemed ideal, he even had men and a vehicle in the area. Serendipity. But no, once again the youngest Ward had been on scene, this time out of costume, a simple cloth mask all that preserved her identity. Unarmed and unarmoured she should have proven little threat to his trained mercenaries. The results spoke for themselves. Another failed plan, another increase to the threat rating he assigned to the Ward. Had she been sandbagging all this time, hiding a brute rating from not only the public at large, but the PRT itself. Hmm. A distraction. That's what he needed, something to keep Vis...The heroes away... Yes.
He dialed a number from memory, a personal phone who's number he hadn't been given. Just another reminder that he was watching for betrayal. He'd rather enjoyed his last information gathering session with the young Thinker. It rang twice before being picking up, he spoke immediately, rather than listen to whatever drivel his unloyal minion spouted as greeting this time. Another trick to give the impression of omniscience.
"Tattletale, I have a job for you..."
omake - knightmare
A blonde haired girl stands frozen, her gaze directly facing the camera. A collection of bodies, limbs twisted unnaturally litters the street around her. The snake themed villan flinched slightly before discarding the timeline. Two squads, brutally dismantled in under five minutes, it was quite frankly terrifying what the child soldier could do. Vista, Missy Byron, youngest yet most experienced Ward in Brockton Bay. He hadn't even been aiming for her, his men attempting to snatch the Mayor's niece, the pre-teen could be used as leverage, but beyond that she had been repeatedly telling all who would listen that she could see the future.
Obviously such a rare tallent couldn't be wasted on any of the other gangs, or worse, the Wards. No, he needed her, at the very least to deny her possible powers to anyone other than himself. Today's attempt was the lattest of many, each confined to a discarded timeline leaving none but himself any wiser to his plans. No, he was rapidly coming to the conclusion that a simple snatch and grab wouldn't work. Each time he had tried he'd been countered by the heroes, or rather, by Vista. This latest attempt had been opertunistic, his men had spotted the Alcott girl eating ice cream with friends, supervision seemed lax and the local Protectorate was dealing with an incident on the other side of the bay.
It seemed ideal, he even had men and a vehicle in the area. Serendipity. But no, once again the youngest Ward had been on scene, this time out of costume, a simple cloth mask all that preserved her identity. Unarmed and unarmoured she should have proven little threat to his trained mercenaries. The results spoke for themselves. Another failed plan, another increase to the threat rating he assigned to the Ward. Had she been sandbagging all this time, hiding a brute rating from not only the public at large, but the PRT itself. Hmm. A distraction. That's what he needed, something to keep Vis...The heroes away... Yes.
He dialed a number from memory, a personal phone who's number he hadn't been given. Just another reminder that he was watching for betrayal. He'd rather enjoyed his last information gathering session with the young Thinker. It rang twice before being picking up, he spoke immediately, rather than listen to whatever drivel his unloyal minion spouted as greeting this time. Another trick to give the impression of omniscience.
"Tattletale, I have a job for you..."
OverReactionGuy
Verified Sanity
Damn.... Vista is hardcore.
-edit-
One problem. Coil doesn't regularly torture Tattletale for information.
You might want to change that.
-edit-
One problem. Coil doesn't regularly torture Tattletale for information.
You might want to change that.
This gonna end badly for him, isn't it.
OverReactionGuy
Verified Sanity
I edited my previous post but here is more on that.
Coil does not torture useful assets, because he never knows when a timeline is going to go to shit.
If he has to drop the other timeline for example when doing it, then he fucked up breaking a useful asset.
Plus, he doesn't really like to be in close contact with TT because of her power and the fact that she might actually figure out his.
Yes, Coil is an evil bastard, but he is smarter than what you have here with him regularly torturing people.
He only tortured 1 undersider in the warlord arc and that was because they were going to betray him
He only tortures mr Pitter because he was a disposable asset.
Coil does not torture useful assets, because he never knows when a timeline is going to go to shit.
If he has to drop the other timeline for example when doing it, then he fucked up breaking a useful asset.
Plus, he doesn't really like to be in close contact with TT because of her power and the fact that she might actually figure out his.
Yes, Coil is an evil bastard, but he is smarter than what you have here with him regularly torturing people.
He only tortured 1 undersider in the warlord arc and that was because they were going to betray him
He only tortures mr Pitter because he was a disposable asset.
Hoyden
Hugbot v0.28
- Location
- UK
Who said torture as in thumbscrews and red hot pokers. No, he enjoyed the subtle psychological twisting of his, ahh, investment. He still discarded the timeline afterwards, no need to take chances. But he didn't really stand to lose very much if he had to discard his other timeline.
So, no, I won't be changing it. It fits the character and the tone to do so.
OverReactionGuy
Verified Sanity
Sorry, I kinda have an knee jerk reaction when it comes with Coil and his "information gathering," because it's common for people to write him torturing Lisa for information than not kidnapping her to his base and instead doing psychological warfare with her.
That's fine, and happens every time they talk on the phone with eachother anyway.
Did I miss something? Or forget something? Or is this really the first time we're seeing Vista in this fic, I honestly can't remember... Because this is a big change...
I think there was a short interlude of her stalking Taylor and Amy earlier but that's all I can remember, so I'm just wondering if I've forgotten or missed something or if this has really just come out of the blue.
I think there was a short interlude of her stalking Taylor and Amy earlier but that's all I can remember, so I'm just wondering if I've forgotten or missed something or if this has really just come out of the blue.
OverReactionGuy
Verified Sanity
You didn't miss anything.
but coil does torture people other than Mr Pitter
monarch 16.13
Calvert sighed audibly. "As Skitter knows about my power and ever so kindly revealed the broad strokes of it to everyone in earshot, I suppose there's no loss in explaining. I tortured one member of the Undersiders for information, in another world, days ago. They revealed that you were plotting to turn on me if I refused to release Dinah. I cannot afford to release her, so my hand was forced."
so maybe not tattletail with her power definite more than random mooks
monarch 16.13
Calvert sighed audibly. "As Skitter knows about my power and ever so kindly revealed the broad strokes of it to everyone in earshot, I suppose there's no loss in explaining. I tortured one member of the Undersiders for information, in another world, days ago. They revealed that you were plotting to turn on me if I refused to release Dinah. I cannot afford to release her, so my hand was forced."
so maybe not tattletail with her power definite more than random mooks
OverReactionGuy
Verified Sanity
That was in the warlord arc where he could afford to and had Dinah. This is not a time where he could afford to torture a valuable asset.
Coil's character isn't a moustache twirling villain that tortures people all willy nilly.
He is a rather cautious mastermind type of villain that is smart.
Who later makes stupid choices because he bases all of his plans from information provided by a drugged 12 year old girl.
pheonix89
Wants to be Seven Of Nine
- Location
- North American Plaguelands
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Who wants him dead dead dead.
earthboy
(verified ape)
- Location
- NYC
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Coil: "At least she wants me."
Tattletale: "Uh, boss..."
Coil: "Other women won't even look at me."
Tattletale: "Boss! Snap out of it!"
- - -
But seriously, in canon, Coil struck me as the type who was rather desperate for approval, including the approval of people whom he'd given ample reason to hate him.
With that in mind, perhaps he would get weepy and morose in one of his timelines, and then cancel that timeline and pretend he was always strong, hard, severe.
Not necessarily canon to Nanoha. Seems magic talent is variable on all axis. Uminari-Earth was noted to produce very few mages, but those that occur are of tremendous potential(Nanoha, Hayate, Admiral Graham).
Chrono seemed to be the Mid-Childan upper-middle standard, capable of flight, and making up for lack of raw power in skills and experience. Yuuno is a freak for his barriers, and weak on attacks, but otherwise around the same zone as Chrono.
For genengineered, we have Project Fate's products in Fate and Erio, of which Fate seems to be the more successful model in terms of raw power, despite being produced from Alicia, a girl with notably low magical ability, while Precia is WAY up there in raw power(being able to fight a battleship on her own and win) despite being a natural.
Other mages we've seen tend to be solidly B and C rankers, with the exceptions being Belkan Inheritors, but while the ViVid crew are all girls, historically Einhart's ancestor was as strong as Jeremiah, and the power gap is unremarkable.
So the conclusion is that magic power varies enormously, and while genetics play a part, it's a complex situation. But a bit of headcanon throw in would make it two parts: Potential, and activation.
The higher the potential, the more secondary genetic factors are needed to unlock it, so it's unreliable. The Belkans figured out how to overclock it by artificial means through various augments(and raise potential/unlock reliability by simple natural selection over the warring states period), with variable stability and entry requirements.
More importantly, the Belkans seem to like trading lifespan and quality of life for increased power output, so I'd think if anything, Belkan Inheritors tended to burn bright and fast unless they had a lot of quality of life hits.
In a time wracked by war, the ability to murderize everything is totally worth 20 years off the end of your life that you don't expect to reach anyway.
Last edited:
Canis
Shoulder Puppy
- Location
- United States
I seem to recall some fluff material that indicated that Lindy herself was the product of a project to either artificially increase the power of mages or grant magical power to those without it that ended up being moderately successful but not really worth the resources to implement or develop further.
FullNothingness
Mostly DHMO.
This sounds more like something they would do to a dedicated combatant rather than a imperial princess... Because one of the greatest weaknesses of monarchy as a system is the monarch croaking at a bad moment leaving an unsuitable or no heir in place. So giving royals longevity makes a lot of sense.
Olivie was mass produced. There were at least dozens of candidates for the Cradle's operator.
More importantly, in an era like that, they can't trust anyone outside of the family with that power, for fear they'd break away and start their own faction. Alternatively the royals WERE precisely supersoldier projects who went rogue and seized power.
Jeremiah had so much power it couldn't be fully restrained, killing anything she fought unless they were hard enough to fight her, AND came with a Berserker mode.
Ingvalt had his memories and power passed down the bloodline. No matter who inherited the power, they would also be him.
Olivie's power explicitly causes agonizing pain to power the Cradle, while the Cradle itself allowed the augmentation of newborns into supersoldiers.
Ixpellia's power unleashes a horde of smart, fast, exploding zombies. She spends most of her time in hibernation.
As far as I can tell, they care more about continuity than personal longevity. Make the power stay in the family, but more importantly, WIN. Think warlords in warring states era China/Japan rather than european royalty.
Epsilon Rose
The King of Unrest
I could have sworn that at one point TT said he explicitly had her analyze his power, multiple times, to try and figure out if he was actually creating multiple worlds or just a simulation and she couldn't differentiate the two.
Did they ever explain, or have her use, her fairy wings?
Well it's superhuman detective skills. Doesn't do much but speculate when you have low information to use.
Dopplerdee
Accident Prone(Yes the caps are necessary)
- Location
- Happy Place
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Iirc Hayate without the book would have been far less powerful magically not average but around C ranked in power or something. One of her problems with caring is her linker core is camposit and boesnt cast fast because of it or something.....wait the book can make mages have bigger linker cores...belka loves its artificial enhancement.
FullNothingness
Mostly DHMO.
Olivie being engineered for the Cradle to work doesn't change that having more changes in leadership isn't a bad thing...
Ingvalt's whole thing is in fact explicitly an longevity plan. Taken a lot further than what you'd expect.
And Ixpellia seems obviously unsuited to ruling much of anything...
The thing is we see few actual dynasties here. You got kings but they are more powerful warlords carving out a country rather than hereditary rulers
Moot point here though. Annette is dead and Taylor participates in Endbringer battles with a very high fatality rate. We're unlikely to ever see her in her 60s, much less 90s
Ixy was mostly a fuck you button though
Last edited: