Magical Tinker Lyrical Taylor Worm/MGLN

Understand this is coming from someone with no knowledge of MGLN, but even if the device manages to technically activate, that wouldn't help her use it. I know that Yuno (that is his name right?) was a major aid to Nanoha in that regard.
Yuuno. Also the device that Nanoha got as a full fledged intelligent device.

What has been described Emma has what appears to be an auto-guard combined with a power siphon. Purpose is to keep the wearer alive via protective shields and drain off excess power so the kid doesn't accidentally hurt anyone until they learn how to control their magic.
 
Yuuno. Also the device that Nanoha got as a full fledged intelligent device.

What has been described Emma has what appears to be an auto-guard combined with a power siphon. Purpose is to keep the wearer alive via protective shields and drain off excess power so the kid doesn't accidentally hurt anyone until they learn how to control their magic.
Sounds about right. So even if Emma activates it, it won't help her much.
 
And has probably a MGLN style GPS locator in it so mom can easily find her with her device.
And I bet that it was set to warn her if Taylor was not near it, as well, while mom her device would probably put up a warning if Taylor her device didn't get home and thus within a certain radius of mom's device.

I hope it's anti-theft systems have been activated or that these sounds were the signs of this activating.
 
Because in that show, nobody ever found a random device and managed to activate it.

Pretty much, in all of Nanoha's duration there is only one example of a specialist device working for another person. Every other intelligent device ever shown is custom made for that person. The limiter necklace is at best a storage device not an intelligent device, but those are useless to people without training. Intelligent devices have less raw computational power due to having an AI, but they can basically do magic on their own

It also seems like certain devices require enough magic reserves to use Raising Heart had a higher activation cost than Yunno could handle, its also not the type of device that would pair well with him for a mission to seal stuff... Yunno is as barrier warrior as it gets.

Raising Heart is about blasting. The very first fight Nanoha has with raising heart she is basically a glorified battery to it and brute forces her way through it. The AI is doing all the math for spells and Nanoha is giving it the power.

Later on Nanoha does most of the math herself and Raising Heart handles other stuff, like the firing rings for accuracy and containment. Some help with firing solutions Also makes it much easier to do binds while charging other spells. Nanoha trained the crap out of her control so that she could air juggle cans hundreds of times without Raising Heart, etc. That way the device can focus on protecting the user from things they aren't able to dodge in actual combat, instead of being a crutch that does the math for your spells.

TLDR; very unlikely for Emma to be able to do anything with it. Intelligent Devices work better as a parallel processor or for point defense than to do your offensive magic. Taylor needs to get awesome at math so she is better at exerting her will upon the world.
Just finished reading through Game Theory. Highly recommend it. Yunno and Arf are really good with the binds and barriers. Barrier bulldozer to force movements. Crushing two barriers together to pancake robots. Magic interferes with magic, most people on bet don't have magic. That means no "manton limit" for certain stuff. Could totally go for the "Lotte no fun allowed" bind, the bind around the throat just enough to choke a person out. I doubt the barrier in the brain to cause a stroke will ever see use from Taylor though.
 
Well, one thing to consider as a barrier for Emma learning magic from that device is pretty straight forward... Any instructions it has will be in Belkan not English. So even if it has all the needed knowledge in it she can't learn it.

I'm betting Emma being a potential mage isn't a coincidence though. If I we're to guess Taylor's mom found out about her potential and then encouraged them to become friends, a Belkan princess should have knights after all.
 
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*quiet cackling*

Ahem, Game Theory. is highly recommended, to anyone who's enjoying reading this fic, if you haven't read it already go do that.
One of the first Nanoha fics I read was part of The Deva Series. I enjoyed reading them... Haven't read them in a while, but might be worth reading if you want more Nanoha ficness.
 
Later on Nanoha does most of the math herself and Raising Heart handles other stuff, like the firing rings for accuracy and containment.

I have no problem with the rest of your post, but that part is highly unlikely.

Well, obviously we don't actually know a lot on how are maths used in magic, just that it is. But well, the fact that they need computers for most spell casting is telling.

Instead, the mage likely oversee the higher level stuff, while the device handle all the calculations. Given that mages are still a thing, it means there's likely some part of the spell casting process that can't be quite automated and need the feeling of a human to work properly. An intelligent device can replace a experienced human, but then it is far more efficient for it to be working on other spells in the background (like maintaining the barrier jacket, flight, auto-defences against surprise attacks, etc...)

... Well, I guess in a way, you could stay that Nanoha does most of the maths, but only if you're considering that maths isn't about calculating things.
 
note: it is mentioned a time or two IIRC, that Nanoha is doing college level math... at 9

It was Fate doing highschool level maths (from A's manga IIRC). Though Nanoha likely caught up quickly.

Anyway, that wouldn't help her any more to do the kind of calculation that requires a computer to be done efficiently.
 
Maybe the charm's anti-theft programming got tripped. The Chiming Emma is hearing, because she's in contact, is a locator beacon trying to contact Taylor's mother, and provide location for recovery.
 
I have no problem with the rest of your post, but that part is highly unlikely.

Well, obviously we don't actually know a lot on how are maths used in magic, just that it is. But well, the fact that they need computers for most spell casting is telling.

Instead, the mage likely oversee the higher level stuff, while the device handle all the calculations. Given that mages are still a thing, it means there's likely some part of the spell casting process that can't be quite automated and need the feeling of a human to work properly. An intelligent device can replace a experienced human, but then it is far more efficient for it to be working on other spells in the background (like maintaining the barrier jacket, flight, auto-defences against surprise attacks, etc...)

... Well, I guess in a way, you could stay that Nanoha does most of the maths, but only if you're considering that maths isn't about calculating things.
I still say that Intelligent devices, act as a RISC set, and secondary processor in parallel to their mage.
 
I have no problem with the rest of your post, but that part is highly unlikely.

Well, obviously we don't actually know a lot on how are maths used in magic, just that it is. But well, the fact that they need computers for most spell casting is telling.

Instead, the mage likely oversee the higher level stuff, while the device handle all the calculations. Given that mages are still a thing, it means there's likely some part of the spell casting process that can't be quite automated and need the feeling of a human to work properly. An intelligent device can replace a experienced human, but then it is far more efficient for it to be working on other spells in the background (like maintaining the barrier jacket, flight, auto-defences against surprise attacks, etc...)

... Well, I guess in a way, you could stay that Nanoha does most of the maths, but only if you're considering that maths isn't about calculating things.

Nanoha initially uses her device to help brute force certain types of magic. Its actually shows Nanoha training without her device to improve her control. Mages have a linker core which lets them do magic. This works even without a device to assist them once they are trained.

Nanoha is stated to have alway been good at math, she was learning how to apply math to do magic in the mid-childa style, which is math heavy. She is doing various levels of calculus at 9 to do her magic. Devices can only automate so much, that is why mages are still important.

Nanoha had to let Raising Heart assist her with basic stuff early on, late on she can do the majority herself. She has her device do other things instead, like handle certain defense, searches, etc. Heck if her device is just giving her all the target information it can that makes Nanoha need to do less work. Such as allowing her to fire five starlight breakers at the same time against a stationary target.

Nanoha basically used her device like telepathic WolframAlpha initially, putting in the general question and it needed to figure our what you want. Later on its more like a scripting language like in Mathematica. Nanoha actually understand the details in the background so she can just directly call the functions that she needs. Its like a person with no clue how to type on a keyboard using a calculator on a computer and an experienced programmer with a good typing speed on the same computer. The hardware might be the same, but the user makes a massive difference in what you can do and how quickly. The user in said example can improve from the first category to the second with practice, study, and experience.
 
Nanoha basically used her device like telepathic WolframAlpha initially, putting in the general question and it needed to figure our what you want. Later on its more like a scripting language like in Mathematica. Nanoha actually understand the details in the background so she can just directly call the functions that she needs. Its like a person with no clue how to type on a keyboard using a calculator on a computer and an experienced programmer with a good typing speed on the same computer. The hardware might be the same, but the user makes a massive difference in what you can do and how quickly. The user in said example can improve from the first category to the second with practice, study, and experience.

Ah, so this is what you meant. If so, I don't disagree with your interpretation. I didn't think about the scripting language analogy, but it kinds of fits with how I thought it works.
 
I have no problem with the rest of your post, but that part is highly unlikely.

Well, obviously we don't actually know a lot on how are maths used in magic, just that it is. But well, the fact that they need computers for most spell casting is telling.

Instead, the mage likely oversee the higher level stuff, while the device handle all the calculations. Given that mages are still a thing, it means there's likely some part of the spell casting process that can't be quite automated and need the feeling of a human to work properly. An intelligent device can replace a experienced human, but then it is far more efficient for it to be working on other spells in the background (like maintaining the barrier jacket, flight, auto-defences against surprise attacks, etc...)

... Well, I guess in a way, you could stay that Nanoha does most of the maths, but only if you're considering that maths isn't about calculating things.
Explain yunno, arf, zafaria, and others
 
Maybe the charm's anti-theft programming got tripped. The Chiming Emma is hearing, because she's in contact, is a locator beacon trying to contact Taylor's mother, and provide location for recovery.

Considering Annette built it in her basement, I doubt the necklace has anti theft or tracking functions. More likely Annette had ways of tracking Taylor herself at close ranges rather than the necklace. It also explains Annette running a grid pattern search of Brockton Bay trying to find Amy.
 
It also seems like certain devices require enough magic reserves to use Raising Heart had a higher activation cost than Yunno could handle, its also not the type of device that would pair well with him for a mission to seal stuff... Yunno is as barrier warrior as it gets.

Which makes it odd that he had it in the first place. I mean, Raising Heart seems like a pretty high-end device and it's basically completely useless to him. It's not like he's some eccentric billionaire who can afford to splurge on useless baubles. or Midchilda is the Federation and has done away with money, so how/why did he have it.
 
I thought he found it in the same excavation that he got the Jewel Seeds from.

Also he was only a 'Guest user' (RH didn't consider him very compatible) so most functions were offline.
 
Wait and see what happens next is all we can do. But I really hope to see giant beams of befriending eventually.
 
Wait and see what happens next is all we can do. But I really hope to see giant beams of befriending eventually.
We follow Belkan style.

Giant crushing object of befriending is a bit more likely than beams.

I thought he found it in the same excavation that he got the Jewel Seeds from.

Also he was only a 'Guest user' (RH didn't consider him very compatible) so most functions were offline.
His talents were kind of in the entirely opposite direction from RH's specialties, so yeah.

Intelligent Devices, like Unison Devices can be picky or even sulky.
Witness RH and Bardiche refusing to boot without the cartridge upgrade.
 
omake - knightly patrol
omake - knightly patrols

It had been surprisingly quiet the last few days, well maybe not completely surprising, things were always quiet for a few days after an Endbringer attack. No, a week after was when things started picking up again, something would happen, a dealer would start working someone else's turf, or a pimp would try and strong arm someone else's working girl, it didn't make a whole lot of difference in the end. Something would set off the violence again, a skirmish would break out and the lines would be redrawn, up and down the country the same pattern repeated in each major cape city.

Backup from the rest of the protectorate was always thin on the ground too, too many losses after each attack, spots left unfilled, reshuffled leadership roles. Most cities had the Wards run daylight patrols only for two weeks after an Endbringer attack, always group patrols too. Brockton Bay wasn't most cities though, with one of the largest Villain population per capita in the country it was practically the front lines of the battle between Heroes and Villains. Glenn would scold her if she used those terms anywhere outside her head though.

Perpetuating the "Us vs Them" attitude, or erroneously giving an impression of villainous unity. She pulled in that special way and the neighbouring rooftop closed to an easy step and slight drop. She'd normally move faster, spend less effort on equalising height differences as precisely, well if she was alone that is. Tonight she had a shadow, in an almost literal sense. Shadow Stalker never really paid much attention to her on their joint patrols, hopping off their set route without warning. But she wasn't the problem surprisingly enough, no it was Triumph that was the millstone about her neck, the former Wards leader had never really practised any of the roof running techniques she generally used.

The last time she'd tried to speed things up with him along he'd nearly broken his neck, she'd told him to jump, shouted at him to jump, told him to fucking roll. Damn lion themed idiot. She'd had to repeat the health and safety lectures after that, all of the health and safety lectures, she hadn't been allowed to patrol for over a month! At least his presence kept Shadow Stalker from being a complete bitch.

"Console we've got an disturbance down by Ruby Dreams. Unnaturally dark fog, can I get a database search?"

Triumph's nasal tone echoed slightly in her earpiece. One look was all it took for her to identify Grue's power at work, didn't he read the briefing packets? Probably working the door, he was almost a rogue, if he had been a little more discerning with his choice of employers. He was still on the system as a rogue, with possible villainous leanings. Hmm, maybe she could convince him that the Wards were the best place to be, she could almost taste the celebratory meal at Fugly Bobs already.

Three large lizard things burst through the smoky darkness suddenly, large as horses they pelting down the street and away. What... Hellhound?
 
I thought he found it in the same excavation that he got the Jewel Seeds from.
The usual argument is that Raising Heart is a modern Midchildan device, if a high-end one - so why would it be found on an excavation?

The thing is, given how archaeology works in TSAB space - there's pretty obvious reasons why a modern Midchildan device might show up as salvage on a dig, and they'd also explain why Yuuno wouldn't want to talk about how he got it.

I. e., one way or another, the previous owner got killed on the dig site. Probably because they were trying to excavate the site before Yuuno arrived, and weren't as good at dealing with traps - though there are other options, too.

Conveniently, this also gives him an excuse for not considering adults useful for solving dangerous problems.
 
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