Not an option unless someone can convince him to take back his objection to it.

I don't think so. You're in my world now.
Oh boy. Okay. Let's see.

So, uh, you know how your body was kinda taken over by a bunch of minds from another reality?

Well, while your influence over your own actions is apparently greater while in your own world, it's not entirely complete; we still have options, after all.

Now it seems to me that either of these available options would increase our power, and your influence. But once we're back in nirn, that'll be us making choices again. Even if your influence over those choices are increased afterwards, you won't be able to limit us entirely.

By feeding us power and making yourself stronger, you're also making the rest of us have more impact on Nirn, which means our often chaotic choices will spread further throughout reality.

By giving an element of chaos more power, you increase choas in Nirn, even as you might increase order in yourself.

Let us stop the flow of power instead. We take nothing away from the forces of order, leaving them at full strength, and we limit our own ability to influence Nirn as an agent of chaos.
 
[X] Stop the flow of power under you
-[X] "You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it !"
 
[X] Take control of the heart of Order for yourself

Infinite power. Let's eat the energy field bigger than our body and see what happens.
 
So it turns out that if you vote with order, you get order. Who knew?

Still, Now is not the time for bitter recriminations.

[X] Stop the flow of power under you
-[X] "You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it !"
We're all going to die.

[X] Take control of the thread beneath your feet
-[X] "You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it !"
Pretty sure that already got vetoed.

[X] Stop the flow of power under you.
-[X] Reason thus with the Knight of Order: "You won't be taken back, you know. Taking back a knight that has been to intimately affected by Sheogorath is bad enough, and you have been showing major signs of chaotic corruption and madness even within your own personality. You will have noticed that your sentences have been pausing weirdly, yes? You speak with another voice in those pauses, advocating madness."
--[X] "Should you try return to the fold, you will likely not be made whole, but unmade, lest your Animus be tainted, and spread to infect others. Throw in your lot with us, and we will do all we can to keep you from the clutches of those you once called ally."
 
[Q] Sit on the Throne.
-[Q] I am the Jyggalag. I am the Jyggalag because I killed the last Jyggalag

"I hereby invoke the ancient rule of Klingon Promotion! I'm your god now, bitches! My first order as your new overlord shall be... a cloak made of liquid gold!"

Nope. Peeps voted for Order, Order is what you're getting.
@butchock you should be happy, we're about to become Two-Face!

[X] Stop the flow of power under you.
-[X] Reason thus with the Knight of Order: "You won't be taken back, you know. Taking back a knight that has been to intimately affected by Sheogorath is bad enough, and you have been showing major signs of chaotic corruption and madness even within your own personality. You will have noticed that your sentences have been pausing weirdly, yes? You speak with another voice in those pauses, advocating madness."
--[X] "Should you try return to the fold, you will likely not be made whole, but unmade, lest your Animus be tainted, and spread to infect others. Throw in your lot with us, and we will do all we can to keep you from the clutches of those you once called ally."

Bad order is bad, didn't want it then, don't want it now. Claiming the throne of Order would result in an inmediate Bad End, or at the very best, a situation very close to it. I'm pretty sure the thread option will empower Order boy in our head, so.... Talk no Jutsu is go, unless @Kyrina vetoes it.
 
So it turns out that if you vote with order, you get order. Who knew?

Still, Now is not the time for bitter recriminations.


Pretty sure that already got vetoed.

[X] Stop the flow of power under you.
-[X] Reason thus with the Knight of Order: "You won't be taken back, you know. Taking back a knight that has been to intimately affected by Sheogorath is bad enough, and you have been showing major signs of chaotic corruption and madness even within your own personality. You will have noticed that your sentences have been pausing weirdly, yes? You speak with another voice in those pauses, advocating madness."
--[X] "Should you try return to the fold, you will likely not be made whole, but unmade, lest your Animus be tainted, and spread to infect others. Throw in your lot with us, and we will do all we can to keep you from the clutches of those you once called ally."

He's right you know, I AM you, we both know we are never going back. You don't even want to, not really. You enjoy living, hell you even enjoy interacting with these idiots, a starving man given conversation for the first time, or something. Im not good at meta - Thats enough, you are correct, of course. Damn right he is However, your argument is flawed. I dont wish to die, but we knights of order are not designed to function at full capacity without the greymarch to support us. We NEED this power, I can control it, I may be tainted but I am still of Order. Perhaps in time the energy itself will change, or perhaps not, but right now an obelisk is required and we have in our hands a way to gain one. I will support either of the two options, but I will not allow your fear or pride to stop us becoming stronger.

 
[X] Stop the flow of power under you
-[X] I have but one lord - and her name is Morila (She's a marshmallow, really)
 
Okay, quick PSA.

Any vote option that can be vetoed by our resident Knight of Order is not EVER going to be part of a bad end scenario. If I'm giving him specific influence over a choice there are NO outcomes of that choice that will bring about a bad end. Like... that would be a terrible, terrible thing to do as QM.

Worry when you in this kind of situation and he's just being smug with no influence over what you can do whatsoever. Kay? :p
 
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