We pulled a few pranks on him that got him into trouble with mother and eventually lead too him becoming a better person. In return, he beat the crap out of us and then publically humiliated us. There will be blood.
Let's be real here, we voted to prank Thor for the fun of it and went a bit overboard. Meanwhile while it was humiliating it was a mostly harmless prank. That and we beat the crap out of each other in fights every once in a while anyway so it's not that bad.

Again, feels like we should drop it since we pranked him and he pranked us back and continuing seems like it would lead to serious escalation.
 
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@KnowledgeKing: With Loki's ridiculous success and wealth, shouldn't it be a lot easier setting up a secret forge? Alternatively, having Phoenix Financial being able to produce currency wouldn't be too strange- someone has to literally make the money after all.
 
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Sheesh, I don't remember us doing anything so mean to Thor. This is pretty disproportional revenge for a couple pranks in childhood.(what is it, 50 years ago?). It stings even more to see how much he's pulled ahead of us in Martial and Diplomacy. He's even tied us in Intrigue.


Osmond:
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Martial: ?
Diplomacy: 5
Stewardship: ?
Intrigue: ?
Learning: 33

How did we graduate ahead of this guy again?
 
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Shees, I don't remember us doing anything so mean to Thor. This is pretty disporoportional revenge for a couple pranks in childhood.(what is it, 50 years ago?). It stings even more to see how much he's pulled ahead of us in Martial and Diplomacy. He's even tied us in Intrigue.




How did we graduate ahead of this guy again?
Maybe he just wasn't that interested in paying attention in classes, maybe he mostly focused on science. Maybe he just wanted too take his time learning.
 
We will probably want to start using our resources to enact on our birthright claim to Jotunheim. Our success is good, but it's highly focused on money, but through rule we could expand militarily, intelligence wise, cold forging, etc.

Plus maybe we can uplift the frost giants and make them amazing employees and security.
 
@KnowledgeKing: With Loki's ridiculous success and wealth, shouldn't it be a lot easier setting up a secret forge? Alternatively, having Phoenix Financial being able to produce currency wouldn't be too strange- someone has to literally make the money after all.
Uh, there are a ton of complications to literally 'making money' that not just anyone can do and is relegated to governments for a good reason.
 
We will probably want to start using our resources to enact on our birthright claim to Jotunheim. Our success is good, but it's highly focused on money, but through rule we could expand militarily, intelligence wise, cold forging, etc.

Plus maybe we can uplift the frost giants and make them amazing employees.
So we focus most of our efforts on stewardship and learning next roll. Think we can only get higher from here, we should also make Osmond our advisor now.
 
I would be against furthering a feud with Thor. It's over, finally, and we shouldn't waste time on a childhood feud (it actually speaks a lot to Thor's immaturity that he still wanted to continue the feud).

I'm all for making a connection with the Dwarves to get some more advanced magical gear and (maybe) to learn from them. But, also, some of Asgard's major power comes from them- best to have some influence there. Also, they could make the growth ring that could help us.

Osmond is...interesting. Want him as an advisor and we probably should help him out, now. We are friends- and other than Sigyn, he may be our closest friend.

Edit: Also, we should use Phoenix Financial to also be an investment corp and (later) do trade. This way we could really up Asgard and all of its nine realms' in wealth and arms. Plus, we could get more knowledge and advisors.
 
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Sheesh, I don't remember us doing anything so mean to Thor. This is pretty disproportional revenge for a couple pranks in childhood.(what is it, 50 years ago?). It stings even more to see how much he's pulled ahead of us in Martial and Diplomacy. He's even tied us in Intrigue.
On the positive side Loki is not only smarter and did/worked a lot harder in school than Thor but Loki has an insanely successful business that extends across the nine realms and beyond and literally has more wealth than Asgard itself. Not to mention that he is pretty talented in a number of areas and even Odin thinks he is a better ruler than Thor, which is helped that Loki takes his role as prince very seriously.

Now we just need to invest into the rest of the 9 realms and we would likely have contributed way more than Thor will ever do and that is something that we could and should definitely feel proud in.
 
REVENGE

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On a more serious note. Asgard does not know we started it. They only know that Loki got pranked, and if we does not responde our street cred would be ruined.
 
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If Thor is like canon he probably wants to commit genocide on the frost giants.

If we became their ruler and upliftes their society, that would be a good deed and a prank on thor.
 
We will probably want to start using our resources to enact on our birthright claim to Jotunheim. Our success is good, but it's highly focused on money, but through rule we could expand militarily, intelligence wise, cold forging, etc.

Plus maybe we can uplift the frost giants and make them amazing employees and security.
Frost giants are a space faring civilisations like the rest of the realms so need for us to uplift them. But you're right on their potential use, I'm 100% down with that.
 
@KnowledgeKing: With Loki's ridiculous success and wealth, shouldn't it be a lot easier setting up a secret forge? Alternatively, having Phoenix Financial being able to produce currency wouldn't be too strange- someone has to literally make the money after all.

The buying of a forge is easy, the secret part is harder, only because Loki's still in Asgard. Under Odin's rule. And wealth and success are good but Odin is...Odin.

@KnowledgeKing can we buy more than one pet next time we want too get one? We are about as rich as the collector now, and we all want too get a load of exotic beast. Maybe even open up a zoo.

Yeah you could.

Sheesh, I don't remember us doing anything so mean to Thor. This is pretty disproportional revenge for a couple pranks in childhood.(what is it, 50 years ago?).

I'll mention it...to Thor, Loki did the following:

A. Got him in trouble
B. Ratted on him/Exposed him.
C. Embarrassed him publicly (he had to apologize)
D. Mocked him (using his own words against him in the letter)
E. Violated him (cut his precious hair)

And was overall mean, pranking him for no reason, for 3 years straight.

So Thor being Thor did the same but uh....a bit more extreme. Because...well he's Thor. He overreacts/over-revenges.
 
We should talk to Odin if we go to the frost giants because giving them such a vast money network is stupid. So we need to talk to him before he gets paranoid. For the uplifting idea again we have to talk to Odin because making a hostile realm better directly threatens Asgard.
 
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Frost giants are a space faring civilisations like the rest of the realms so need for us to uplift them. But you're right on their potential use, I'm 100% down with that.
By uplift I think they mean influence their culture to be less violent and more intermingled with the other planets of the 9 realms.
We should talk to Odin if we go to the frost giants because giving them such a vast money network is stupid. So we need to talk to him before he gets paranoid.
The Frost Giants having access to our banking doesn't really seem like that much of an issue since they could just go to other places but with Loki's bank it makes it easier to keep track of their spending making it easier to get warning for things like spending on weapons.
 
I don't see why we'd need to continue the feud with Thor. He thinks we're even, and while it was embarrassing for us, pushing further will only cause him to get even worse. We could finally try to reach out and become the bros everyone wanted at the start.

Or, we can get revenge and then MEGATHOR will powerbomb us off a ladder into a flaming glass table covered in barbedwire and thumbtacks.
 
By uplift I think they mean influence their culture to be less violent and more intermingled with the other planets of the 9 realms.

The Frost Giants having access to our banking doesn't really seem like that much of an issue since they could just go to other places but with Loki's bank it makes it easier to keep track of their spending making it easier to get warning for things like spending on weapons.
That's not what I mean, what I mean is if Loki becomes king then the frost giants become powerful diplomatically and financially. Their influence would probably be equal to the Dwarfs. Even if he trusts Loki he is still a monarch that has to look at things objectively and gas to think about Lokis successor and if Loki changes it the future.

If we give Osmand a Lab then he has to be working in something that benefits Asguard and Loki has to know. The reason I say this is he is worse then dismissive to anyone that he sees as lesser which we have seen examples if in Marvel the most famous being Doom. So I propose an R&D facility that works on medicine, biology and genetics. Something that can help his fellow man and build empathy.
 
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