not a tenth level, but yeah sacrificing it'll probably net a lot. Still won't. You know, maybe we do have something worth a lot of points. Our feud with Thor should be quite a bit.
LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)
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I really don't want to go this far considering that we seen first hand how that turned out for Thor. We should draw a line here.
That's specifically I wanted to give up that one.
If I can be honest I think Thor just gave up all his emotions and relations to the Well. Maybe we should look for an outside power to undo what the well has done. Like 10th level magic, or the chaos magic that was mentioned earlier. Or the stones.
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The Tenth Wandering Cloud
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I second this.
We can still legally sell you.
Swords 5/5
Daggers: 5/5
Concentrated Mischief
Payback king
One eye
Lawful Loki
Healing magic
Teleportation magic
All this stuff above I am for sure on board with getting rid of.
Stuff I am still on the edge about getting rid of are
Maybe enchanting magic to, it was Loki's first magic and his primary so he probably has a strong attachment to it so we should get a decent boost from it. We can hire enchanters to enchant our stuff or just ask Amora to enchant it for us, we don't really use it much anyway. We also have not trained it since around turn 12, or something like that.
Our second eye, on edge about this because there is a chance of insanity but there is also the possibility that Thor gave up his emotions or attachments as well as his eyes and that is the cause for how he acts, from what I remember Rune King Thor inthe comics was not insane, could be wrong though which is why I am on the fence, would definitely cause us to be closer to Thor in terms of power though, we could have Osmond make prosthetics and yes I understand we would not actually be able to see through them, we would however still look like we had eyes which is a good thing.
Thinking about training up some skills to sacrifice to the well, some have brought up the fact we would have to be attached to them for them to count for much so we cannot just train them up to do this because of it, but Loki does not yet know he can sacrifice skills or anything but his eyes, which means he would see it as him trying to get stronger and be proud of it and have some attachment to his hard work, in the comics I vaguely remember a blue spirit thing that told what the well did so he should learn of what it does then.
Thinking about sacrificing two of our ribs to it, you can live a relatively normal life with up to six ribs gone and I am thinking of taking out two, because if the sacrifices are based around attachment there is not many things we are more attached to than our body.
Shapeshifting, now that it is known Loki is a Jotun we don't really have much need for this, I am on the fence about it because it is incredibly useful in a lot of situations and we might regret not having it later, we would also get a decent boost from this since we would be sacrificing the only thing we have to hide our heritage and look like the mother and father we have that raised us which is pretty significant to Loki.
This is just my thoughts so far, any suggestions or reasons as to why some of the stuff I typed is stupid? I typed way to much....
Daggers: 5/5
Concentrated Mischief
Payback king
One eye
Lawful Loki
Healing magic
Teleportation magic
All this stuff above I am for sure on board with getting rid of.
Stuff I am still on the edge about getting rid of are
Maybe enchanting magic to, it was Loki's first magic and his primary so he probably has a strong attachment to it so we should get a decent boost from it. We can hire enchanters to enchant our stuff or just ask Amora to enchant it for us, we don't really use it much anyway. We also have not trained it since around turn 12, or something like that.
Our second eye, on edge about this because there is a chance of insanity but there is also the possibility that Thor gave up his emotions or attachments as well as his eyes and that is the cause for how he acts, from what I remember Rune King Thor inthe comics was not insane, could be wrong though which is why I am on the fence, would definitely cause us to be closer to Thor in terms of power though, we could have Osmond make prosthetics and yes I understand we would not actually be able to see through them, we would however still look like we had eyes which is a good thing.
Thinking about training up some skills to sacrifice to the well, some have brought up the fact we would have to be attached to them for them to count for much so we cannot just train them up to do this because of it, but Loki does not yet know he can sacrifice skills or anything but his eyes, which means he would see it as him trying to get stronger and be proud of it and have some attachment to his hard work, in the comics I vaguely remember a blue spirit thing that told what the well did so he should learn of what it does then.
Thinking about sacrificing two of our ribs to it, you can live a relatively normal life with up to six ribs gone and I am thinking of taking out two, because if the sacrifices are based around attachment there is not many things we are more attached to than our body.
Shapeshifting, now that it is known Loki is a Jotun we don't really have much need for this, I am on the fence about it because it is incredibly useful in a lot of situations and we might regret not having it later, we would also get a decent boost from this since we would be sacrificing the only thing we have to hide our heritage and look like the mother and father we have that raised us which is pretty significant to Loki.
This is just my thoughts so far, any suggestions or reasons as to why some of the stuff I typed is stupid? I typed way to much....
Let's not cripple ourselves by getting rid of our inherent magic. I just asked if we can make a respec potion for magic, see if we can make that and reorganize our points. If we want split the points between forging defensive magic, forging, mind, and binding.
@KnowledgeKing what is the DC for a science based magic respec serum?
@KnowledgeKing what is the DC for a science based magic respec serum?
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Actually Loki is aware that he is going to need to sacrifice things so imagine that that's going to play a hand in the our reasoning for getting new skills. As for the insanity thing, don't think the eyes actually had anything to do with it. Something to note that this isn't the comics so just giving up two eyes may not be as big a boost to create Rune King Thor. It's also implied that Thor sacrificed a lot more than just two eyes. So don't think sacrificing an eye would actually affect our sanity.
Yes, but he doesn't know what he can sacrifice yet, he has only seen Thor, who no longer has eyes so it is not to much of a stretch for him to believe it has to be physical and not mental. That is what I am hoping at least.
That is good to know
Wait until QM answers what the DC for a respec potion for magic is. Want to drag around all the points in mind, forging, and binding. Create a stat booster for learning and use it to create serums that can increase our stats. Remember the stronger the person making the sacrifice the more we get out of it. This is why we should wait off on it, the QM also confirmed it is possible to increase martial through other serums. My thought is the well is either judging by combat points or combined stats.
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Uh, a science based magic respect serum seems extremely contradictory so not sure how the heck that would even work.
Well we used a science based potion to add 20 magic and magic can undo the serums side effect, so it isn't weirder then the interactions we have already seen.
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Is the Tablet actually science based? Thought it was more mystical.
No Osmond confirms it is Science, since he was interested in it, didn't get his antimagic malus, and outright said it when he found out about magic messing with the side effects.
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Not possible. Needs to be magic based like the actual serum was.
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@KnowledgeKing Has Osmond become more interested in magic due to his experiences with it? As in did he get over his disdain over time?
Still against getting rid of lawful Loki, Payback King, and teleportation, as teleportation is really surprisingly useful. As for the unlisted ones. Enchanting is still useful to us in reaching things sealing can't and would be more useful if we actually applied it. I'm against ribs. you could live a relatively normal, non-combat life without ribs. Last thing we need is for a low punch to hit us in the lungs. We shouldn't burn our shapeshifting as that would keep us in Jotun form forever.
We have a teleporting machine that can be upgraded and integrated in armor making magic redundent. Payback Loki is useless because we are the bank who are we lending from? We are also the richest person in the universe it would take a massive string of Nat 1 to undo that.
Edit: Loki of learning becomes useless when learning increases. We are going to make a brain booster.
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Teleporting I guess I can see, but we rarely even focus on that set. As for payback king
Payback King: Loki is allowed more leeway on accumulating debt. Also a -10 DC on paying back any sort of debt.
I'm gonna take what I can get. This is a very broad term and applicable in more ways, like exchanging power for something, or making deals with spirits.
I see what your saying just ask for clarification, even if it is as you say when have we made deals? The perfect chance for that was the deal with Karnilla and we only have the habit of trading what we have.