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Join him as associate , not subordinate. Let him be someones elses problem instead ours.
LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)
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Join him as associate , not subordinate. Let him be someones elses problem instead ours.
I want to spend all the learning heroes this turn on the serum to Max it out. The reasons are do it before Odin wakes up and the learning boost. Use it on all our learning heroes and have them surpass Thanos's tech progression.
Edit: @KnowledgeKing what is the serums bonus currently?
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I want to look for dwarven survivors, anywhere.
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Think a part of that is that people didn't take into account that even if we won the fight against Morpheus that the battle wouldn't be over since he still had ships to fight. Imagine that we got more rolls afterwards that we failed in regards to the bombardment that lead to an even bigger loss.
No, it was the whole 'people refusing to back down' for now instead of waiting for a better opportunity later, and deciding to provoke Thanos that lead to this. We could have completely avoided this. Also not being a genocidal asshole isn't being 'soft' it's not being a genocidal asshole. And note the QM warned us that going too harsh would also cause problems.
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Oh yea, our sanctions were so harsh, so harsh all dwarfs gotten killed. We had legitimate reasons to not back down and even for putting them in first place
Edit: but im pretty sure destroying one planet and sending army to kill off Thanos is far worse alternative than him destroying nine planets .
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I thought the Asgardians military would include ships because space station thing but I guess not. Second let me ask you are you psychic because that's the only way short of word of God that you would know Thanos was going to back down. We had no evidence of such so berating people about not backing down just sounds cheap. Your decisions has seen just as bad outcomes pan out so don't throw stones.
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Imagine that it's different for Asgard since Asgard is far more well known thanks to a number of factors. Meanwhile Titan doesn't seem to have been nowhere near as well known. Though that said Thanos may end up attracting the attention of other more powerful beings over time.
I seriously hope not, what with the QM warning us that that would trigger extreme mode. Luckily that isn't Thor's style.
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Lmao again a better roll potentially giving us a WORSE outcome. Would this have happened if we rolled high in the first place?
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I will give you a minute to reconsider this statement.
The man literally has Ultron and an Infinity Stone in a world that was considered a back water. He is openly showing it off and no one has struck him down amazingly. God bless Thanos he is the chosen one.
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Only logical conclusion for me is either we go all in, or give up, at this point its clear that cold war situation cannot be maintained anymore since other party obviously doesnt play by same rules and not responding to destruction of one of Nine realms has consequences of its own.
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They might.
Allow you to send as many people as you wanted. And respond in a timely manner. BEfore the fighting began. I think you can teleport a ship with the bifrost, but it'd have to be a small ship or it might get cut in half.
No. Thor wouldn't do that.
It brings you up to 35 Martial. No Learning right now.
Depends on how high you roll. Better option would've been to take out any ships. And/or evacuate the Dwarves immediately.
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I mean he seems like the type that if he were to destroy try to destroy a planet he would do it with his own bare hands instead of impersonally. What with that seeming to fit warriors pride thing better. That and Frigga talking him into calming down a bit.
First off pretty sure it was mentioned that Thanos was likely to back down and people were pointing out that antagonizing Thanos was likely a horrible idea and that it would probably have been better to just wait for an opportune time to build up. Third while people did have legit reasons a major issue I have was that some people were outright fear mongering with treating assumptions like fact with things like 'how if we didn't stop Thanos he would just build up and we'd be doomed'. Which turned out to be bullshit as revealed by the QM just a few posts back that implies that Thanos' growth was overestimated and our own growth was severely underestimated.
Fourth, I don't remember people talking about how we 'couldn't expect Thanos to not attack'. Despite the arguments used but people seem to suddenly be bringing up now. Though admittedly I may not be remembering things right in that regard.
Also Thanos may have attacked Asgard but he made a point to not target civilians and didn't even do that much damage to Asgard itself with it being noted that things weren't nearly as bad by the QM themselves said. So destroying an entire planet seemed pretty disproportionate. Not to mention the arguments about going to war potentially causing a number of issues for Asgard which is why some people suggested dealing with some of the realms like Jotenheim and Muselheim first before considering any further military action.
I was going to pass info to the Kree and make it look like an accident so it couldn't be traced to Loki. At the same time end the Kree-skrull war to free then up. To equally powerful NPCs going at each other should last awhile. It also stops them from teaming up later like the MCU.
Edit: @KnowledgeKing if we used the serum on the troops next turn would they all become martial 35?
Also can we use the serum on the troops yet?
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Lots of if's there, considering the luck we've had so far, I doubt it's gonna work.
Not really an if considering we could Brooker peace using PF and the Kree without distraction would find out anyway. The plan would just accelerate the process.
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Ehhh , he literally attacked Asgard unprovoked and maimed its rulers, plus casualties among soldiers, we responded with sanctions on that which was pretty level headed decision.
Now he pretty much murdered entire population of one of nine realms which are under our protection, so to make long story short, if we arent capable to defend nine realms and back up our actions there wont be nine realms because theres no point in our protection if we arent giving said protection and letting obvious crime go unpunished because at this point for most of nine realms we will be seen as weak and not worth the trouble to be associated with if only thing said association brings is certain destruction.
Destruction of Dwarfs pretty much cornered us in war.
Edit: Only other option if you dont want war is to abdicate as regent of Asgard at this point because doing nothing will throw any legitimacy we have out of window.
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Going to point out the attitude of 'this is the only way' while ignoring the reality that we have a number of options is what bit us in the ass before with how some people were saying that 'we have to act tough with Thanos because it's the only way' which turned out to be wrong. Besides that this attack happened due to not just the sanctions but Thor not just attacking Titan but massacring civilians as well despite Thanos making a point to spare our civilians. We could have just dropped things for now and bided our time and built up.
Besides that we might be able to hide the Dwarfs death considering that in canon when they were killed off no one learned about it for a long while.
So not saying that we shouldn't respond but to play the long game with Thanos.
The Galaxy is a huge freaking place and the Kree are literally in another galaxy. You also fail to consider that he isn't really fraunting it to other people since we ourselves would have never known about those unless we directly interacted with those. Odds are that most people aren't aware about the infinity stones or the artifacts that they are kept it. Hell, we didn't learn about them being Infinity Stones at first until later on in the MCU.
Yeah, pointed out that Darkcores issues in regards to plans in that they rely on a lot of assumptions/ifs that fail to take into account a number of things. Including them just joining forces if they interact with each other. Which is pretty hilarious is that Darkcore himself literally mentioned that it happened in canon.
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@KnowledgeKing Are the dwarfs entirely gone? Can't you leave some alive?
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Loki before the serum: smoll boi. very fluff
Loki after the srrum: HECKEN BIG BOOFER! VERY BUFF!
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We might have another option, spin our in action as preparation. While we do that use intrigue strike and have the serums pump up the soldiers. The soldiers becoming more powerful will suite this narrative for the citizens.
@Red Bovine The reason why they teamed up in Canon was they needed help against the Nova corps and the person in question couldn't be backed by his government. Non of that exists here and Thanos hasn't made a name for himself yet. Even if they do team up it won't change anything considering it would have happened anyway. Instead we would have gained the Kree and the Nova for ending the war.
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Hide it from hothead that is Thor and has seen it with his own eyes? From everyone else that survived? And once again you are ignoring the fact that Thanos started this and backing off had its own consequences which would resulted in war anyway.
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Huge problem is that pragmatically we know that Thanos is extremely dangerous and we are perfectly aware that going to war with Thanos would be highly likely to get us wasted so doing that is just stupid. Seriously, if the QM says it's a bad idea, it's a bad idea.
We are their king, if they are told to be quiet about something imagine that they would. And Thor I'm not sure would just blab if we give him a pragmatic reason and state that we do plan on attacking Thanos sometime in the future after we are better prepared.
Also what the heck are people talking about with war? The QM outright said that was unlikely to happen and that they would just be upset, Darkcore was just fear mongering with his assumptions again.
Yup I have been advocating that and filling in our security flaws so we don't have another assanation attempt. What I am thinking next turn is all learning heroes finish the serum. Have them boost themselves so we can keep up with Thanos. Fix our spy ring and intrigue defences.
Edit: @Red Bovine really how is fear mongering again? I never said anything about war directly since QM pointed out direct options would be bad. I stated the truth that Odin will wake up and when he finds out what happened he will declare war. We will be in worse place two turns later when that happens because Thanos would have had time to build up without distraction.
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