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Maybe if Thanos was dead or crippled.
Power levels don't change without reason. I can say that much.
LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)
- Thread starter Black King
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Maybe if Thanos was dead or crippled.
Power levels don't change without reason. I can say that much.
Read the comments so far alot of them are accusing Thor of civilians deaths with no basis and banishing him. I keep on asking how are they going to stop Thor from doing anything and that's there response.
If we apologize then we are going to have to apologize again because how are we going to get Thor to stop. This means we might as well not apologize.
@KnowledgeKing What happens if Loki apologizes and Thor keeps on doing what he is doing?
Can we overload the destroyers head and cause an explosion?
Is the apology public and is it being recorded?
Edit: @Red Bovine you keep on talking about pragmatism but when others do something pragmatic it is wrong. We could easily give him something like storm breaker and build it safeties just in case. If we give Thor a few artifacts it doesn't matter how reckless he is if it is locked against certain actions. So give Thor a good Thanos killer armor and weapons and wipe the board. You keep underestimating things just like with the Merc and the medicine where might I point out we won both.
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Abyssal_light
Lord of the light, within thy abyss
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[X] No, an apology for actions that were not mine or done on my orders would be a hollow apology. I can disavow his actions but apologise for them, I'm afraid not.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
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It's simple. We tell him.
Thor doesn't listen to reason, nor superiority.
The truth is that Thor is suffering with inner turmoil, the struggle he feels is too much and he's lashing out.
And what are we doing? We are condemning him. We are his brother, the same sons of the parents the madman nearly killed. Yet we haven't lifted a finger. We need to do what Odin never did. We need to tell Thor the truth, the reason, the pain that we too feel. We need to tell Thor that we need him, because without him we can't win.
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Red... things may be clear for us to judge. But the same can't be said about the Asgardian populous. For us, it is shades of grey, but for them, it is black and white. The people of Asgard were unexpectedly attacked for no reason. And they lost many during it. We may be able to see the bigger picture, but they certainly can't.
And to heal Frigga and Odin, we need time. And from the looks of this current update, the QM and Megacookie are not going to allow us to have that.
P.S There still exists a small rebellion in Asgard. They may be supporting the crown for now, as Loki is showing a backbone. But we don't know what they might do if we lessened the sanctions.
You naive fool, you still fail to see another obstacle holding you back from achieving your goal.... The DICE GODS!!
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This isn't post Thor 1 Thor so that isn't going to be good enough. I do think we should talk to him and tell him the plan is for 3-5 turns and he should wait. Or that he should wait long enough for us to either weaken Thanos using mercs or sanctions.
Maybe we should push the point that we should wait until our parents wake up.
@KnowledgeKing How well is Frigga and Odin? How long until they wake up?
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[X] No, an apology for actions that were not mine or done on my orders would be a hollow apology. I can disavow his actions but apologise for them, I'm afraid not.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
Backbone loki
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
Backbone loki
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Loki's unsure. Maybe Thanos would act against him.
No.
Not to Loki's knowledge, no.
Frigga will be back next turn.
Odin is indefinitely incapacitated.
And just for everyone's benefit, either side of the sanction vote will have consequences. Some more severe than others.
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Hmm, how about a compromise then? Instead of calling it completely even we say that some reparations have been made through Thors attack on Titan and instead of completely lifting the sanctions we only ease up on them a bit but refuse to lift them completely until the Odin and Frigga recuperate?
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You can try it. Asgard wants blood though.
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That's what the main vote does.
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Those are unrelated. And Loki knows nothing of the spell.
Ok look above, no matter what Loki is boned by this decision. Better the decision that doesn't cause internal dissent. Remember the sanctions have the public a place to point their fingers at. If we lessen it we will have a larger rebellion on our hands not to mention Thor.
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That is something we definitely do not want to do, ever.
Sena Kumo
The Tenth Wandering Cloud
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[X] No, an apology for actions that were not mine or done on my orders would be a hollow apology. I can disavow his actions but apologise for them, I'm afraid not.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
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This idea is... either we get boned by Thanos (For not eliminating the sanctions) or Thanos (for lessening the sanctions) and Asgard (people not being happy about it.)
[X] No, an apology for actions that were not mine or done on my orders would be a hollow apology. I can disavow his actions but apologise for them, I'm afraid not.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
This is probably the best vote we got right now. It stops Loki from looking weak and stops a civil war with the rebels or Thor. Thanos needs time to go on war footing and Odin is out indefinitely. While Thanos prepares we also prepare and in 3 turns we attack him like a bat out of hell.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
This is probably the best vote we got right now. It stops Loki from looking weak and stops a civil war with the rebels or Thor. Thanos needs time to go on war footing and Odin is out indefinitely. While Thanos prepares we also prepare and in 3 turns we attack him like a bat out of hell.
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[X] No, an apology for actions that were not mine or done on my orders would be a hollow apology. I can disavow his actions but apologise for them, I'm afraid not.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
I as well dont see other solution, while Thor did mess up we will only bring disorder into the Asgard if we accept Thanos demand and still wont be able to keep Thor in check .
We pretty much need Odins authority to lift the sanctions .
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
I as well dont see other solution, while Thor did mess up we will only bring disorder into the Asgard if we accept Thanos demand and still wont be able to keep Thor in check .
We pretty much need Odins authority to lift the sanctions .
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Your doing it again. Making a simple argument while ignoring a lot of factors to support your own argument. If you haven't noticed people are asking questions and trying to find a way to minimize damage through a number of solutions. Meanwhile you just keep going the aggressive and uncompromising route and refusing to even consider looking for other ways to deal with things.
I mean you just use the word 'rebellion' but don't say how big it would be or if it would actually happen or even if it could be managed well enough if handled properly.
I mean I'm wondering if a compromise option would at least make things manageable. Like say if Asgards people are not happy we may be able to take actions to deal with it.
Well Thor did technically end up spilling blood on Titan with his attack.
Abyssal_light
Lord of the light, within thy abyss
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You dare suggest those bipolar, completely unaligned, foolish beings hold sway over me!
How ridiculous!!
Who leaves it up to luck and chance, no we stack the deck, weigh the dice, hide cards up our sleeves and every other dirty cheat/tactic we can. Pull the wool right over their eyes. Let them think we play their pathetic games, then kick them while their wailing on the ground crying about fairness. *spits aggressively at the ground*
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Civil war? Rebellions? Where the hell did come from? The QM said that Asgard wouldn't be happy. Yet you immediately jumped to those.
@KnowledgeKing Would this definitely lead to rebellions and civil war?
Do you want another Amora situation where we tried both and lost on both sides. It's like you're ignoring the facts. The last thread the QM himself pointed out that doing what you are doing led to a bad end.
There is no half way here, Thanos wants a sanctions gone. If we only give half he may very well attack. Remember he is insane and unpredictable, who knows if this in of itself a test to see if Loki had back bone. The medicine and the offers to give up were a test to see if Loki could stand the pressure. So who knows if this isn't another, remember Thanos is crazy and unpredictable.
Edit: Think about this logically for a minute. Loki knows there is a faction unhappy about his rule but backed off because of the speech and that the sanctions have someone to point at. Now you take all of that away and it will start building pressure and if Thor comes back and releases Thanos's name publically and against Loki's announcement what do you think would happen? @Red Bovine
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You may talk the talk, but when the time comes... *ominous voice* You most definitely won't be able to walk the walk.