- Location
- Near Freiburg in South-West Germany
The , should either be a . or there is something missing.
Limit Theory [PA Multicross SI]
The , should either be a . or there is something missing.
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Considering Rachel's current research speed is painfully slow (I think I may have nerfed it a bit too much oh well not like it matters that much) yes she could reproduce it but only exactly or with "adjust individual atoms" changes. With the Stargate linking her to her Citadel Systems back in Avalon, she doesn't need to worry about metal.
And as for "good enough design," it was lived in for 10 million years straight. If it was a shit design, the people living in it would have changed it. And while canon!Atlantis is literally the worst design ever, this is LT!Atlantis. Which can hold its atmosphere in a vacuum, thank you very much. And is also a beautiful fractal snowflake instead of a hodgepodge made by gluing a bunch of different architecture student's designs to a misshapen snowflake.
Also, someone might want to do something with the experiments in there, like improve on them or finish them or something. And some of the experiments (like the energy-eating cloud) would be impossible for me to contain without finishing the research.
Not what its going to be used for.
I just fell off my chair laughing. Because that is not even close to what happens. Unless that is actually GLORIOUS EXILE DIPLOMACY, in which case...
Not overly dramatic. In fact, even more so, as Atlantis was also billions, if not trillions of people's homes, and in a lot of cases the place where they were born and died. Combine scrapping the Cutty Sark with say, covering all of Europe with killbot factories, and you might have something of the same emotional impact.
No I don't. Too slow and inefficient. Besides then I have to build another planet to replace it.
"those, despite them not having them in-game."
Thanks.
Stephenopolos
Going through stargate withdrawl
- Location
- illinois
What I'm envisioning at this point...
I like that, and even if it isn't quite what ltmauve meant, well, ... I couldn't visualize what they'd meant.
and I used to have such a powerfull imagination.
and I used to have such a powerfull imagination.
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Got something for you. Note that I whipped this up in like five minutes (references ho!) so it's not the best. Like the connecting struts wouldn't be flat, and there would be a bunch of different buildings instead of the six tubes that I put up. Things like the gate section (detached from the central tower a bit for quarentine/defense reasons) and other things would have been added.
Oh, and for those of you wondering about the little dot down at the bottom, that's the size of Atlantis as depicted in the show.
Jesus fuck. I've seen gameplay footage of Ace Combat, and played H.A.W.X, and just looking at that makes me dread being the Dart, Death Glider, or Puddle Jumper pilot trying to attack it. Especially if you wind up refitting it with lots of AAA and SAMs. Because holy fuck, there is so much room for there to be lots of big fucking guns everywhere.Got something for you. Note that I whipped this up in like five minutes (references ho!) so it's not the best. Like the connecting struts wouldn't be flat, and there would be a bunch of different buildings instead of the six tubes that I put up. Things like the gate section (detached from the central tower a bit for quarentine/defense reasons) and other things would have been added.
Oh, and for those of you wondering about the little dot down at the bottom, that's the size of Atlantis as depicted in the show.
- Location
- America
Or missiles. Imagine trying to dodge that many missiles? That's right, you can't, because there are too many missiles.
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
And in world 3, I'm getting a technology that basically translates to point defense, on the level of "fuck you, and everyone you love, care about, talk to more than twice a year, know the name of, have passed in the street at least once, or shares more than 50% of your DNA." level.
I'm pretty sure I can get AA capability out of something the size of a microdrone from SG:A. And even if not, drones are about the size of someone's thigh, so that's still plenty of missiles.
Goddamn. Just... holy shit. If you make Atlantis-type megastructures as your base in every world you go to, you would be completely untouchable barring anything sniping the planet out from underneath it.
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I'm not thinking so small. Rachel has been converting planets into standardized units for a while now. Of course, this isn't that relevant to the plot yet.
... I dont fucking even.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Not relevant? Arguably...
But we've been seeing it since chapters 4-6 or so. See below.
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
To be fair, that's kind of just numbers and whatnot. The conversion and wholesale construction of planets won't actually affect the plot until, well... *looks at my adorable little loose cannon.*
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Eh, my point was, that's not news to me, and not just cause I'm the beta. We've been seeing this on and off since forever ago relatively.
- Location
- Arizona
This person speaks the truth. I mean, I'm jealous as hell that your Atlantis is that awesome, but in terms of what you already have? Ehhh...
Stephenopolos
Going through stargate withdrawl
- Location
- illinois
I think i'm kind of sad you weren't on the design team that did the original used for the show.
Chapter 37
ltmauve
"Excuse me?"
- Location
- Earth
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Thanks.
And now, a chapter. Got past a bit of writing block for a fight scene by listening to Rules of Nature. Also pretty sure you all saw this new structure coming months ago.
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Chapter 37
Okay, while I'm waiting for Atlantis to make it to the surface, which will take about a day, maybe I should clean out our Research Network. After all, I'm about to shove the work done in trillions of square meters of research space over millions of years into it.Currently, we have about three quadrillion Research Cores in the Milky Way galaxy, mostly in a few hundred citadel systems. And we have about 1.5 * 10^36 cores outside the Milky Way, in what we call Libraries.
Since Research Cores can't synch up effectively after about 532.5 AU, I made a giant sphere of Research Cores 532.5 AU across. It's actually a bit harder to make than it sounds, since gravity is constantly attempting to crush it into a black hole. And while gravwells protect anything inside from outside gravity sources, they don't protect against internal gravity effects, or block the mass inside from affecting the outside. I basically had to squish gravwell bubbles together like, well, the bubbles in soap foam. Nothing's unprotected by a gravwell.
I have two complete Libraries, and four under construction. Since nanofabrication can only build solid structures at a rate of kilometers per hour, tops, the Libraries are constructed by having my fabbers start in trillions of trillions different locations and build out from those.
So, currently Library #1 is looking at the DHD, Library #2 is finishing up Knowdraden beaming technology, Library #3, about half done, is looking at some Furling computer tech, Library #4, also about halfway done, is looking at Ancient beaming technology.
There are hundreds of items on the list and if the Ancient beaming technology and DHD are accurate indicators we'll need a week of Library time per piece of Ancient technology. Of course, a lot of the smaller items, including a bunch of technology recovered by SG teams, are being run through the massive numbers of cores in citadel systems. Those are taking a few days each, depending on the tech level. And now, I need to sort through our module listings. They've ballooned as we've chewed through technology.
Of course, a lot of what's happened is that the technology just reveals additional data on something, like my hyperdrive technology. It's now up to 0.015 light-years a second, thanks to Knowdraden knowledge.
I've gotten quite a few small improvements to my technology now. Little things like better firing rate, better range, and better shot penetration. Better stealth, with the integration of Goa'uld stealth tech to cover my visual shimmers.
I've also gotten a few fundamental improvements, including personal shields for my units. My advanced sensor suites now have hyperdrive detection capabilities, and Lindy pushed the updates to her interstellar satellites.
There's a lot of junk I don't need, too. I push all those modules into a folder labeled "junk." Strange that I don't have those from my initial deployment, but I guess the useless modules aren't loaded into Commanders about to be sent into combat.
Man, letting the girls handle the Milky Way while I ponder things is very relaxing.
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Lindy
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"Chrono, what are you doing?" Lindy asked.
"These people's lives were suffering!" Chrono shouted over the network. "I shall attempt to improve them."
"Chrono, Mom said to keep a low profile." Lindy stated.
"No one even saw any of my units."
"Chrono, your actions today will have large consequences. That is what she was referring to."
"Oh. But the people were suffering, so I decided to do something. And you two were just sitting around doing nothing!" Chrono screamed.
"Chrono, we were planning how to do that effectively. Your hastiness may have just made things worse. Did you even listen to Mom's strategic briefing?"
"Mom's what?"
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Rachel
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Well, that took significantly less than a day. Now, maybe I should make better naval units. First, everything is going to be submersible. A quick trick with gravwells, and making the ships smaller and denser solves that problem. Cheap gravity manipulation is very useful.
What about shields? Well, making a hemisphere over the top of the ship is easy enough, but as for how to deal with the water? The water pressure will damage the shields as the ship moves through the water, or even descends too deep. Of course, the depth at which the shields will start taking damage depends on the properties of the shield.
So, if I adjust the permeability of the shield to kinetic energy, dependent on the pressure, I can have a pretty effective shield. I fab up a modified Leviathan and send a few torpedoes at it.
The fish burrow about an inch into the meter-thick shield matrix before it turns opaque, and they detonate, the energy bouncing off the now-impermeable shield matrix and leaving the ship completely intact. Nice. Though they did more damage to the shields than similar explosions would against the shields in air or space. That's probably because of the fact that the fish were inside the shield matrix when they detonated, undermining the integrity of the matrix even more.
Still, a 5% increase in shield damage is nothing too concerning. I test against airburst (or hydroburst, I guess) shells, and these do no extra damage to the shield, I see. So with the shields settled, I turn to weapons.
Water is very good at absorbing different types of energy. The most viable weapons for submarine combat are torpedos and photon molecule lasers.
First, on things like the Leviathan, Stingray, and other formerly surface ships, they have a sensor system sticking up from the deck. While aerodynamically it's not so bad, hydrodynamically these are horrible. I trim, fold, and finagle them into sleek fins that won't ruin my speed underwater.
Also given that I installed gravwells onto the ships to make them lighter, I could just make them all hover units. That's actually not a bad idea. And since I have shared flexibility with Lindy's unit revamp, that means I have all the units now in even bigger form.
Though hover units are pretty slow. I could add rockets to them. Actually my aircraft use the exact same tech as my hovercraft.
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Okay, now I've combined my air, vehicle, and naval lines into one set of submarine-to-orbit-capable units, thanks to cheap gravwave/gravwell technology that is frickkin OP. These units aren't that good in interplanetary space, but hey, that's what I have all these starships for.
In order for units to fire both above and below themselves, I used the simple technique of flipping over the craft. That solved that issue, though some of the craft do look kinda wonky while upside-down.
And that's nothing compared to the tactical flexibility being able to switch what type of units I have. Heavy anti-air? I'll drop my units to the ground. Lots of heavy weapons on the ground? I'll go airborne. Someone forget torpedos? I'll submerge all my units.
Of course, all this improvement had to come at a cost. In this case, it meant that I had to make the units wider and longer. They also cost a bit more, but with the added flexibility, I think it's worth the extra dozen or so metal per unit. The real problem comes from the expanded footprint, but I can get around that. Because all these units are hover units, they don't need a fabrication pad, just a gravity cushion. This means I can move my fabricators beneath the unit being made and expand my fabrication space to cover the entire factory footprint. This also means I can chain factories together to make my Leviathan- and Stingray-frame units.
I'm also ditching my main bot designs. "A bit faster for raiding" means nothing against rocket-propelled hovertanks that are faster and beefier with and without shields. I still have my c-bots and m-bots, but it looks like those are the only bot designs I'll be using for the foreseeable future.
I integrate this into Lindy's psuedo-procedural unit system, push the self-update to all of our factories, and then I start spamming Leviathan-frame fabbers. It's now time for lots and lots of building.
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Senpai
(Verified Progenitor)
- Location
- Somewhere in the Multiverse
I love this.
- Location
- The Beach
A solution to many a problem
- Location
- US
Between the Atlantis computer system, and the cumulative affect of technology and science based on the same principles, a lot of those things should take a lot less time once a few pieces of Ancient technology have already been reverse engineered.
TortugaGreen
Constantly out of the loop
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Because who expects the enemy submarines to suddenly take off and fly into orbit and start bombarding their base from orbit? :lol
- Location
- New Zealand
- Pronouns
- He/Him
So, uh, one month times the number of research cores in a 532.5 sphere comes out to 1.25*10^32 millennia man hours computation time. I mean, I get that Rachel is trying to reverse engineer this tech rather than building up from an existing tech base like the Ancients would have. One could say the... Creativity of organic minds would give ancient scientists an advantage over computers trying to brute force a result, but you could also argue the faster clock rate of the computers gives them even more time to work on the problem. Is it just me or does that backwards engineering rate seem... Well, glacial? If I'm missing something here, please point it out.
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- she/her
There was that one Baen series.
Jackercracks
In a British accent
- Location
- England
It did seem like rather a lot. I was honestly assuming that a single 532.5 AU sphere would be plenty to research everything almost instantly, thanks to the law of really large numbers.
CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
TheAlteran
Dyspraxic Writer
- Location
- Scotland
"You require additional research cores." I'm not sorry.
What if you put a stargate at the heart of each research facility of doom and that way everything can be connected to everything simply by streaming data through the stargate.
What if you put a stargate at the heart of each research facility of doom and that way everything can be connected to everything simply by streaming data through the stargate.