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Well she probably won't be alone. I'm guessing Freya's will probably be classified as a Rat Soldier.
Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Playing: Final Fantasy IX]
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Zap Rowsdower
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And Lalafell are probably going to get labeled as Dwarves, and Rex XIII is going to get stuck with "Beast"
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Kuja
I'M A SQUIIIID
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There's an old X Men comic, one of those various AUs where this version of the team first gets assembled, and in the panel where they all say their new codenames Hank McCoy says "am I the only one who finds the name 'Beast' a little derogatory?"
I can't find it but pretend I posted that here.
Lalafell might get the Halfling type instead, given it seems to be the catch-all for short humanoids that aren't obviously dwarves.
As for Red, unless they want to go with Dog Cat or Wolf Cat I don't think there's anything else you could type him. Although knowing WotC, it'll be something like Dog Cat Beast.
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Nanaki's a wolf, easy.
I'm mad they didn't type Cloud as a Rebel, though.
I'm mad they didn't type Cloud as a Rebel, though.
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
I still say hyena. He's got the raised shoulders and the mohawk mane.
But if I had to pick between wolf and great cat, I'd pick cat. The face isn't long enough for a wolf and the tail's all wrong.
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I was about to say "I think Rebel, being a type with a bit of mechanical baggage, is probably disfavored" but a check on scryfall shows many recent Rebels, including Ace from Doctor Who.
So... yeah, I guess this goes in the "we didn't have enough room for ALL the applicable types" box.
I am not sure how informative the past actually is in this situation. Your examples were designed in an environment where UB content that wasn't a slamdunk match like LotR was relegated to side content for external fans and commander nerds, meaning noone cared all that much if cards lack potential for fun brews. Now we live in a world where the tie-ins have replaced the main content of the game. If they want to create any opportunities for tribal decks to exist at all in such an environment they need to think super hard about create types.
Like, I would even expect a suspiciously big chunk of random Miqote and Mithra cards - and barely any for FF's other non-human races - just because Cats also exist in Marvel, which is the next destination after FF.
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- Singular They
Knowing nothing about Magic The Gathering, how are they on elves?
I ask because while Miqo'te and Mithra are often the "face" of FFXIV and FFXI marketing, there's also the Elezen and Elvaan, who are fairly directly "elves" in any other setting (including FFXIV Shadowbringers). And in most fantasy settings, elves tend to be brought up earlier than cat-people.
Having said that, it does feel like there are no named-character elves in Final Fantasy from FFV to FFXI, and even in FFIV just the one random Dark Elf. And before that, it was Astos the Dark Elf in FFI, and the Prince and citizens of Elfheim, who were just there to be the token elf nation in a fantasy setting.
Now, FFXI does introduce several prominent Elvaan, including at least one of the marketing "faces", namely Prishe. So I expect Prishe at the least would be classified under whatever MtG's "elf" category would be, if it exists.
(FFXIV has the obvious Ishgardian Thirsty Trio: Estinien, Aymeric, and Haurchefant.)
Elves are relatively common in normal MtG, but as mentioned it's been announced that normal ain't going to be the majority in the near future, so that likely doesn't matter as much as you would expect.
Based on a mix of announcements and rumours three rest of 2025 will have one proper MtG set on a plane that hapoens to not have any elves (had to check the wiki, though), the FF set, a proper MtG set on an new Sci-Fi plane, a Marvel set and an Avatar set. So not much potential in the short term. Among the few things already known about 2026 is a set set on an old MtG plane with tons of elves, though, so there is hope there.
Writing that up makes me realize that all the mysterious tech in FF might also get a big bunch of cards, since all the following sets also have technology in their worldbuilding.
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So, for starters Commander is the most popular casual format in MtG right now, and has been for years by this point. Competitive formats are another thing, but the fact is that the vast majority of players don't play competitive formats and Commander dominates the casual scene.
This means that Commander precons are one of the main contents of the game right now, and you can see this with every set getting their own precons, the focus on legendaries and potential Commander cards in those sets and UB products being mostly Commander focused so far.
With this said I expect WotC to not change much in regards to creature types for UB products; this to say they'll prefer to use already existing creature types if possible, because this way new cards can be used by players both in new and already existing decks and there's less issues with typal support, but it wouldn't be weird for them to make new creature types if enough cards can benefit from it.
I also expect WotC to value popularity more in deciding which card go into a set, so I expect most cretures in the FF set to be named characters and iconic monsters and less so generics. Like, I expect to see at least one Vivi card and maybe a generic FFIX Black Mage one (I guess with type Contruct Wizard) but a generic Elezen, Bangaa or Mithra card is less likely.
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Zron and Thorn have pointed ears, do they count?
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- She/They
Avatar blue people or Avatar elemental kung fu?
No, but Marcus does. He's just also very buff.Zron and Thorn have pointed ears, do they count?
Guile
Having a really great time right now
I'm sorry Omi, quirky miniboss material at best
You gotta share with Sanguinea from Something Awful and Maximillian Dood the twitch streamer
Yshtola, at least, is correctly diagnosed as White-Blue-Black
Welcome to Green.
Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
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I'm pretty sure he'd be classed as an orc. A friendly one, but still an orc; he has tusks.
Kuja
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Marcus is 100% someone's half-orc rogue/fighter.
The latter, but this last one's the part of my post that's still just rumors right now.
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- She/They
Yes, but that's the blatantly correct answer, so I elect to ignore it for one that's funnier.
Buff Elf Thief Theatre Kid is a concept I should probably use for a future character of some kind.
Kuja
I'M A SQUIIIID
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Marcus: A half orc can be half orc and half something else not human, you know. You racists.
Zidane: So what, are you like...half elf?
Blank: He's half full of shit, I've seen him try to use a bow.
Marcus: Nah, my little sister is though.
Marcus: Mom shitcanned my dad when he went up the river after a missing pallet of engine parts from his cargo ship showed up on the black market in the Engineering District and got remarried a couple years later.
somewhatLazy
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More Final Fantasy Magic the Gathering spoilers released today, this time for the main set and supplemental beginner 1v1 decks.
Garland/Chaos of inexplicable infinite time loop fame is Red/Black, the color combination of selfish and hedonistic freedom, used by Innistrad's vampire aristocrats who would drink themselves to starvation if they could and Ravnica's monster clown circus led by a literal demon. It's as good a fit as any givegn the little we know about him. He enters the battlefield as a fairly weak human knight with a minor ability to surveil, giving the player future knowledge of their draws and putting unwanted draws into the graveyard. Once he dies - just as planned! - he can be resurrected as the terrifying Chaos, a big flying beater who doesn't die, but is merely put into the bottom of your library. The time loop gearing up for another go.
Oh, and of course, his flavor text is "I, Garland, shall knock you all down!"
Cecil of baby's first attempt at moral complexity fame is white/black. The colors of selflessness and selfishness can combine in several ways, the most relevant to Cecil being his usage of dangerous dark power to invade an innocent country in the name of his genuine loyalty to his homeland. However, for the sake of color ratios in the set, Dark Knight Cecil starts out as mono-black, with an excellent statline for his cost... and the small drawback of making you lose life whenever he connects. It's okay, just need to kill the enemy first. However, once you lose half your starting life, Cecil has his moral realization and transforms into a white-aligned Paladin with lifelink (so whenever he deals damage you now regain that much HP) and an ability to protect your other creatures.
Cloud and Sephiroth, meanwhile, also got confirmed to have at least two cards each, as the starter set has unique versions of them.
Cloud is Cloud, Planet's Champion, and I might be overthinking it but the title makes me think that it's late-game post revelation Cloud. He's red/white, the color combination which the designeres seem to think of his core and which was kept in Omicron's analysis of him transitioning from red/white/black to red/white/blue. Red/white tends to combine in a way which combines white's desire for stability and unity with a hot-headed and often violent way of approaching things. Ravnica's cops, Mirrodin's rebels, and Strixhaven's department of history. Here, I think that the white is meant to represent Cloud's higher goal of saving the world for that sake, his very personal grudge against Sephiroth, and... they probably didn't think that deeply, but I feel like the emotion of red is so very important as a contrast to Sephiroth's grand-standing. Why does it matter Aerith is dead? Because we loved her and she loved life.
Sephiroth, meanwhile, is blue/black, a color of selfish plotting and corrupted science. Innistrad's madmen-raised zombies, Ravnica's spy guild manipulating things from behind the scenes. And of course he has the ability to make a cool katana-first entrance by inflicting -2/-2 onall creatures your opponents control Aerith the moment he hits the battle. Just to drive it in, you know?
Yuffie, meanwhile, is a reskin of an existing card. She's blue/black, similar to Sephiroth, which... I feel that any Yuffie card which does not include red is missing just how annoying an impulsive gremlin she can be and the deeply emotional reasons behind her actions. But that's okay! Because she's still so very annoying as a card. She's a reskin of one of the notoroious commanders in the game, a card which can completely dodge the usual commander tax that makes it harder to cast your commander each time it dies, and a card that can very easily burn off large chunks of everyone's HP if she hits the right things off the top of the library. Which she can get started very early because she's only 2 mana to ninjitsu out onto the battlefield attacking.
And in the end, isn't that just what Yuffie would want? To be detested and killed on sight? Look at her smile. She's living her dreams.
Finally, we have a very minor and spoiler-free character in FF9 whom Omicron has already encountered.
Garland/Chaos of inexplicable infinite time loop fame is Red/Black, the color combination of selfish and hedonistic freedom, used by Innistrad's vampire aristocrats who would drink themselves to starvation if they could and Ravnica's monster clown circus led by a literal demon. It's as good a fit as any givegn the little we know about him. He enters the battlefield as a fairly weak human knight with a minor ability to surveil, giving the player future knowledge of their draws and putting unwanted draws into the graveyard. Once he dies - just as planned! - he can be resurrected as the terrifying Chaos, a big flying beater who doesn't die, but is merely put into the bottom of your library. The time loop gearing up for another go.
Oh, and of course, his flavor text is "I, Garland, shall knock you all down!"
Cecil of baby's first attempt at moral complexity fame is white/black. The colors of selflessness and selfishness can combine in several ways, the most relevant to Cecil being his usage of dangerous dark power to invade an innocent country in the name of his genuine loyalty to his homeland. However, for the sake of color ratios in the set, Dark Knight Cecil starts out as mono-black, with an excellent statline for his cost... and the small drawback of making you lose life whenever he connects. It's okay, just need to kill the enemy first. However, once you lose half your starting life, Cecil has his moral realization and transforms into a white-aligned Paladin with lifelink (so whenever he deals damage you now regain that much HP) and an ability to protect your other creatures.
Cloud and Sephiroth, meanwhile, also got confirmed to have at least two cards each, as the starter set has unique versions of them.
Cloud is Cloud, Planet's Champion, and I might be overthinking it but the title makes me think that it's late-game post revelation Cloud. He's red/white, the color combination which the designeres seem to think of his core and which was kept in Omicron's analysis of him transitioning from red/white/black to red/white/blue. Red/white tends to combine in a way which combines white's desire for stability and unity with a hot-headed and often violent way of approaching things. Ravnica's cops, Mirrodin's rebels, and Strixhaven's department of history. Here, I think that the white is meant to represent Cloud's higher goal of saving the world for that sake, his very personal grudge against Sephiroth, and... they probably didn't think that deeply, but I feel like the emotion of red is so very important as a contrast to Sephiroth's grand-standing. Why does it matter Aerith is dead? Because we loved her and she loved life.
Sephiroth, meanwhile, is blue/black, a color of selfish plotting and corrupted science. Innistrad's madmen-raised zombies, Ravnica's spy guild manipulating things from behind the scenes. And of course he has the ability to make a cool katana-first entrance by inflicting -2/-2 on
Yuffie, meanwhile, is a reskin of an existing card. She's blue/black, similar to Sephiroth, which... I feel that any Yuffie card which does not include red is missing just how annoying an impulsive gremlin she can be and the deeply emotional reasons behind her actions. But that's okay! Because she's still so very annoying as a card. She's a reskin of one of the notoroious commanders in the game, a card which can completely dodge the usual commander tax that makes it harder to cast your commander each time it dies, and a card that can very easily burn off large chunks of everyone's HP if she hits the right things off the top of the library. Which she can get started very early because she's only 2 mana to ninjitsu out onto the battlefield attacking.
And in the end, isn't that just what Yuffie would want? To be detested and killed on sight? Look at her smile. She's living her dreams.
Finally, we have a very minor and spoiler-free character in FF9 whom Omicron has already encountered.
Stiltzkin, the little moogle we've already encountered and keep hearing about his adventure. He's just a cute little mono-white moogle who's a merchant and sells items you own to your opponents in exchange for cards!
Oh, and no, they don't get to refuse. Even if it prevents you from playing all creature spells and you're a creature deck.
This is the smile of a demon.
Oh, and no, they don't get to refuse. Even if it prevents you from playing all creature spells and you're a creature deck.
This is the smile of a demon.
Parzival
They shall not pass. We shall overcome.
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Kinda underwhelmed by some of these. Sephiroth is basically a worse Massacre Wurm.More Final Fantasy Magic the Gathering spoilers released today, this time for the main set and supplemental beginner 1v1 decks.
Garland/Chaos of inexplicable infinite time loop fame is Red/Black, the color combination of selfish and hedonistic freedom, used by Innistrad's vampire aristocrats who would drink themselves to starvation if they could and Ravnica's monster clown circus led by a literal demon. It's as good a fit as any givegn the little we know about him. He enters the battlefield as a fairly weak human knight with a minor ability to surveil, giving the player future knowledge of their draws and putting unwanted draws into the graveyard. Once he dies - just as planned! - he can be resurrected as the terrifying Chaos, a big flying beater who doesn't die, but is merely put into the bottom of your library. The time loop gearing up for another go.
Oh, and of course, his flavor text is "I, Garland, shall knock you all down!"
Cecil of baby's first attempt at moral complexity fame is white/black. The colors of selflessness and selfishness can combine in several ways, the most relevant to Cecil being his usage of dangerous dark power to invade an innocent country in the name of his genuine loyalty to his homeland. However, for the sake of color ratios in the set, Dark Knight Cecil starts out as mono-black, with an excellent statline for his cost... and the small drawback of making you lose life whenever he connects. It's okay, just need to kill the enemy first. However, once you lose half your starting life, Cecil has his moral realization and transforms into a white-aligned Paladin with lifelink (so whenever he deals damage you now regain that much HP) and an ability to protect your other creatures.
Cloud and Sephiroth, meanwhile, also got confirmed to have at least two cards each, as the starter set has unique versions of them.
Cloud is Cloud, Planet's Champion, and I might be overthinking it but the title makes me think that it's late-game post revelation Cloud. He's red/white, the color combination which the designeres seem to think of his core and which was kept in Omicron's analysis of him transitioning from red/white/black to red/white/blue. Red/white tends to combine in a way which combines white's desire for stability and unity with a hot-headed and often violent way of approaching things. Ravnica's cops, Mirrodin's rebels, and Strixhaven's department of history. Here, I think that the white is meant to represent Cloud's higher goal of saving the world for that sake, his very personal grudge against Sephiroth, and... they probably didn't think that deeply, but I feel like the emotion of red is so very important as a contrast to Sephiroth's grand-standing. Why does it matter Aerith is dead? Because we loved her and she loved life.
Sephiroth, meanwhile, is blue/black, a color of selfish plotting and corrupted science. Innistrad's madmen-raised zombies, Ravnica's spy guild manipulating things from behind the scenes. And of course he has the ability to make a cool katana-first entrance by inflicting -2/-2 onall creatures your opponents controlAerith the moment he hits the battle. Just to drive it in, you know?
Yuffie, meanwhile, is a reskin of an existing card. She's blue/black, similar to Sephiroth, which... I feel that any Yuffie card which does not include red is missing just how annoying an impulsive gremlin she can be and the deeply emotional reasons behind her actions. But that's okay! Because she's still so very annoying as a card. She's a reskin of one of the notoroious commanders in the game, a card which can completely dodge the usual commander tax that makes it harder to cast your commander each time it dies, and a card that can very easily burn off large chunks of everyone's HP if she hits the right things off the top of the library. Which she can get started very early because she's only 2 mana to ninjitsu out onto the battlefield attacking.
And in the end, isn't that just what Yuffie would want? To be detested and killed on sight? Look at her smile. She's living her dreams.
Finally, we have a very minor and spoiler-free character in FF9 whom Omicron has already encountered.
Stiltzkin, the little moogle we've already encountered and keep hearing about his adventure. He's just a cute little mono-white moogle who's a merchant and sells items you own to your opponents in exchange for cards!
Oh, and no, they don't get to refuse. Even if it prevents you from playing all creature spells and you're a creature deck.
This is the smile of a demon.
Who would win in a fight, the One-Winged Angel, the all-powerful heir to twisted legacy of mad science and dark sorcery? Or a big cactus with a funny moustache?
The starter decks cards are always on the weaker side. There will be at least one better version somewhere in the set though.
somewhatLazy
Serial Procrastinator
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never forget Magnus the Red, transhuman demigod turned favored servant of the god of magic, having the same stats as a siege rhinoWho would win in a fight, the One-Winged Angel, the all-powerful heir to twisted legacy of mad science and dark sorcery? Or a big cactus with a funny moustache?