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Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]

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Omicron said:
So idk. Abandoning the superbosses because I don't have time to deal with them feels lame, but on the other hand waiting to actually finish the game until, like, January while I'm standing on the door of the final boss would be ridiculous.
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Do what you find the most fun. It'd suck to kill this Let's Play because you felt you had to kill all the superbosses.
(Plus they get worse anyway. Square seriously goes mad with power when designing the superbosses)
 
I agree that leaving them off for later is probably a good idea; and while ignoring them entirely would make me sad, I would totally understand that decision, too. There's no point to playing a game if it isn't fun.

That said, FFVII up to this point, with very small exceptions, has been a pretty straightforward, easy game where the multitude of customization options are completely unneccessary due to an absolute lack of any difficulty. Because of this, for me personally it was a breath of fresh air to find an actually challenge in the Emerald and Ruby weapons, and I feel that, while later superbosses were excessive, the Ruby and Emerald Weapons are actually a worthwile addition to the game.

So... I do think that, at this point, the games' superbosses haven't crossed the threshold into absurity yet; I can 100% understand not having the time for them, but I also believe that, in the right mindset, they can be pretty fun.
 
So I've been reading this in my spare time, and just got up to 6 and made it to part 3, but all the pictures are broken apparently up to part 6.

Is there anyway for me to see those?
 
Thalton said:
So I've been reading this in my spare time, and just got up to 6 and made it to part 3, but all the pictures are broken apparently up to part 6.

Is there anyway for me to see those?
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That's... Concerning.

I have no idea why this is happening. I can give you an open link to the gdoc drafts of these updates so you can read them with pictures, but I don't know why the updates are broken and I don't know how to fix them until I know why they're broken. Again. Because this has happened before, but - it shouldn't be happening again now.
 
Omicron said:
That's... Concerning.

I have no idea why this is happening. I can give you an open link to the gdoc drafts of these updates, but I don't know why the updates are broken and I don't know how to fix them until I know why they're broken. Again. Because this has happened before, but - it shouldn't be happening again now.
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I'll take the gdoc then, hopefully you figure it out.
 
Thalton said:
I'll take the gdoc then, hopefully you figure it out.
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Double checking, it looks like the problem is just with VI parts 3 through 6 - everything else before and after that working, at least from spot-checking random spots.

Which is good, because it means the problem is neither just on your end, nor is it "everything before a certain date is being deleted" like it was last time.
 
Thalton said:
I'll take the gdoc then, hopefully you figure it out.
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The numbering is slightly off for whatever reason, I'm numbering them by their gdoc title.

FFVI, Part 3
FFVI, Part 4
FFVI, Part 5
FFVI, Part 6

Zap Rowsdower said:
Double checking, it looks like the problem is just with VI parts 3 through 6 - everything else before and after that working, at least from spot-checking random spots.

Which is good, because it means the problem is neither just on your end, nor is it "everything before a certain date is being deleted" like it was last time.
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That is a slight relief, but not I'm not counting my chickens yet.

Full disclosure: A few days ago it was discovered that a whole chunk of my drafts covering several months were gone. They were swallowed by some kind of Google incident, and I wasn't the only one, some others lost drafts dated back to that period. Ever since them I have lived in fear of watching my entire update backlog up to the end of V lose all its pictures as the URLs died.

None of those vanished updates are for FFVI, though, so this... Can't be related? These are somehow two completely separate issues happening close to one another and both seem to threaten the integrity of this LP. Which is making me very nervous.

A very kind friend made an app which allows me to auto-upload all pictures in a gdoc file to imgur, which will harden the whole process in the future - but making sure all past updates are safe would require going back, reuploading the updates whose pictures are currently still on as drafts, passing them through the app, and then editing them back into the SV posts, for 200 updates. The very thought of doing this drives me to despair, so I've been waiting and hoping the drafts come back.
 
I would say skipping Emerald and Ruby is fine, maybe coming back as a Bonus Update if/when you want to take the time. Because honestly, they're mostly time sinks; outside of glitch abuse it's just setting up a strategy to weather the attacks and then chip away at their HP, piece by piece. Like, sure if you could find a way to make Knights of the Round hit for 9999 each individual shot, guaranteed, and keep repeating that every single cast, that would be (fairly) quick but that's about it for "fast" with these 1,000,000 HP super bosses.

And realistically: the rewards aren't all that worth it if you've basically gone right up to the final boss anyway. It's neat to have but you're not going to get much use out of them, and there's no New Game Plus to go through and abuse the early game with them.
 
Uff da, that's rough. IMO, I'm more than content with a holiday hiatus if you need to handle other stuff. Honestly, it might even be worth it regardless before jumping into FF8.
 
take your time. If you want to go straight to the final gauntlet and end the Let's Play of VII, go right ahead. There is no reason to beat yourself up trying to 100% any of the games from here on out, unless it's a challenge you feel like facing. Especially on some of the more recent titles like 12-15. 16… doesn't actually have that much content and only just got an actual Super Boss in DLC.
 
Omicron said:
Alright, I've reached the Point of No Return inside the Northern Cave, then walked back out to see how the levels and items gained therein would fare me against the superbosses.

My initial plan was to do in VII as I did in V - take a small break on my way to the final fight of the game to challenge the superbosses, beat them, give it its own update like I did for Omega and Shinryu, and move on quickly. It's becoming increasingly clear that this won't work. Whether it's grinding the required stats/materia, or refining a tactic with the tools I currently do have and then grinding an hour long battle with it, all the paths forward will take several hours of play, and I have a bunch of things going on in December that limit the amount of time I can put into this (and into writing about it).

So idk. Abandoning the superbosses because I don't have time to deal with them feels lame, but on the other hand waiting to actually finish the game until, like, January while I'm standing on the door of the final boss would be ridiculous.
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Just ignore them. Make a save and come back to it as a postgame update if it truly chaps your ass to leave Emerald and Ruby alive, but it benefits no one for you to get held up right at the point of no return just to do the part of the game you vocally hate for eight hours in service to some mid superboss fights.
 
Omicron said:
So idk. Abandoning the superbosses because I don't have time to deal with them feels lame, but on the other hand waiting to actually finish the game until, like, January while I'm standing on the door of the final boss would be ridiculous.
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Well, personally, at least, I'd rather you moved on. You've been good at making accounts of combat interesting to me, here, but if it's a choice between you waiting to proceed until you can do that, or getting straight into the plot and whatnot of the ending and then on to FFVIII...
 
Many people are saying it's fine to skip superbosses and move on until later. I, on the other hand, think we deserve a 10k words update of Om8cron repeatedly eating dirt against them before giving up and then moving on. I want ro wallow in abject failure.
 
illhousen said:
Many people are saying it's fine to skip superbosses and move on until later. I, on the other hand, think we deserve a 10k words update of Om8cron repeatedly eating dirt against them before giving up and then moving on. I want ro wallow in abject failure.
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I mean, that'd be funny in a sadistic way, but...


FWIW @Omicron: There's literally zero plot-relevant stuff to do aside from proceed to the bottom of the Northern Crater, though there is one more tier of Battle Square stuff that has some minor character interactions with Dio. But that's pretty much it. Everything you can do -- including the Battle Square stuff, or chocobo racing, or grinding in general, or whatever -- is basically an exercise in trying to solve the combat system for brags, more like a puzzle to see if there's new and interesting ways to combine stuff than actual needed upgrades for a character.
 
beowolf said:
The middle ranks, not the primary characters? I don't think that's exactly fair to Red. I could try to make an argument for CS and Reeve being counted together too, but that seems a bit disingenuous when you need to do that for him to stack up. Nanaki, though, maybe isn't the best executed, but he both has quite a noticable personality and also gets a decent amount of screen time just off his connection to Cosmo Canyon and Bugenhagen. Most of VI's characters can't even match up to just what he shows in the trips to that one location, and he does have some other moments on top of that.
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McFluffles said:
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree? I mean it depends on who you consider the "middle ranks" of FFVI, but I'd honestly say everyone but Vincent and maybe Cid is pretty competitive with the majority of FFVI's party in terms of getting characterization. VI has its standouts like Terra and Celes sure, but it also has characters like Sabin (I love the musclehead but he spends most of the game Just Being There) Gau, or Setzer and that's without again, diving into the deep pull bin of "secret characters with a recruitment line and a 10 second ending scene" of Umaro or Gogo. Plus, while part of it is how often she's been in Omi's party I'd say we've seen Yuffie easily be almost keeping up with that primary characters set of Cloud/Barret/Tifa/Aerith.
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Meant to get back to y'all sooner. To hopefully not drag this out too long, what I'll say is that by dint of 7's smaller cast and fewer space restrictions, yeah someone like Red XIII probably does have more lines than most of VI's cast. I don't think that more equals better*. I can even buy them being competitive with each other, but all the 'this blows VI out of the water' comments don't land for me.


*= I am genuinely undecided which is my personal game of the year between Baldur's Gate 3, which I have >300 hours in between my main playthroughs and a few co-op runs with friends, and Hi-Fi Rush, whose main story took me like 15 hours to beat, and in which I am just shy of 40 hours overall between post game stuff and playing again with my niece.. I would change more about BG3 than I would about Hi-Fi Rush if that tells you anything.

illhousen said:
Many people are saying it's fine to skip superbosses and move on until later. I, on the other hand, think we deserve a 10k words update of Om8cron repeatedly eating dirt against them before giving up and then moving on. I want ro wallow in abject failure.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJA098gi1Rw&t=151s
 
Omicron said:
So idk. Abandoning the superbosses because I don't have time to deal with them feels lame, but on the other hand waiting to actually finish the game until, like, January while I'm standing on the door of the final boss would be ridiculous.
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There's enough in the series without you breaking your ice axes against every superboss, and you never said that this is a completionist playthrough.
But speaking of completion, one question - did you visit Bugenhagen?
 
The only thing I would ask for is a run at Ruby WEAPON. No need to beat it or anything, I just want to see it in the battle screen.
 
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