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Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]

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this trailer has me fucking rabid. howling and clawing at my screen. the corel prison confrontation in glorious voice acted 3d?? marlene is actually back in the plot??? zack???

those cheeky fucks ended the trailer on a shot of aerith kneeling at the forgotten city altar with black feathers falling around her i am screaming

nomuraaaaaaa!!!
 
Wait, but if Zack's still alive where'd Cloud's copy of the Buster Sword come from? Did the Whispers plant it on him? Is it just one giant slab of Jenova Cells imitating a sword? Is it the version from the previous timeline or whatever's going on with Sephiroth and Aerith knowing how things are 'supposed' to go?
 
wetodet said:
Wait, but if Zack's still alive where'd Cloud's copy of the Buster Sword come from? Did the Whispers plant it on him? Is it just one giant slab of Jenova Cells imitating a sword? Is it the version from the previous timeline or whatever's going on with Sephiroth and Aerith knowing how things are 'supposed' to go?
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I'm thinking that Zach's from a separate timeline.
 
wetodet said:
Wait, but if Zack's still alive where'd Cloud's copy of the Buster Sword come from? Did the Whispers plant it on him? Is it just one giant slab of Jenova Cells imitating a sword? Is it the version from the previous timeline or whatever's going on with Sephiroth and Aerith knowing how things are 'supposed' to go?
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From what I understand, Zack is in his own timeline where he survived his sacrifice and is carrying around coma Cloud, but Barrett's Avalanche save Wedge died and Aerith is in a coma. This is demonstrated by the fact Stamp is a Terrier in Zack's timeline instead of a Beagle in the "main" remake timeline.

The death of the Whisper Harbinger means the barriers between these two timelines are breaking down, as hinted at by Aerith's lost in translation Japanese final line "I don't like the sky."
 
Omicron said:
this trailer has me fucking rabid. howling and clawing at my screen. the corel prison confrontation in glorious voice acted 3d?? marlene is actually back in the plot??? zack???

those cheeky fucks ended the trailer on a shot of aerith kneeling at the forgotten city altar with black feathers falling around her i am screaming

nomuraaaaaaa!!!
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This is what watching a Kingdom Hearts trailer is like - not enough to guess the plot but enough to send you fucking feral.
 
The part of the trailer that got me going "what the fuck" is that Marlene is the one who warns Zack that Aerith is going to get killed. Marlene... is going to actually be crucial to the plot?
 
i'm intentionally not looking up trailers because i want to avoid spoilers but my understanding from general osmosis is that Zack is joining the party, they made Cid too hot and Dio is a dracula now.
 
So I'm not the only one to see that final DIsc 2 scene of Cloud and Tifa and make the inference "they banged".

But of course shippers gonna ship and all the Aerithstans are enraged at the thought, even if, let's be honest, Aerith would probably be fine with it. Hell, she'd be cheering.

Anyway, time to await Omi slamming his male member into a cabinet door aka "fighting the Weapons".
 
My brain shut down as an anti-shipping defense during that Patient Zero rant so forgive me if I'm missing your point, but being poetically obtuse about romance has been a Japanese staple since "tsuki ga kirei" was code for "I love you".

There's a strain of Japanese literary thought that is basically the Futurama Robot Devil: "Characters directly saying how they feel? That makes me feel angry!"
 
I believe that it's part of japanese culture to talk around issues rather than confront them directly? Which is part of the reason why shonen protagonists are always so straightforwards, becuase there that's bucking the norms and thus "cool" in teenagers' eyes? Or is that a misunderstanding of cultural norms from second-hand information?
 
FourthWall said:
My brain shut down as an anti-shipping defense during that Patient Zero rant so forgive me if I'm missing your point, but being poetically obtuse about romance has been a Japanese staple since "tsuki ga kirei" was code for "I love you".

There's a strain of Japanese literary thought that is basically the Futurama Robot Devil: "Characters directly saying how they feel? That makes me feel angry!"
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Right, I brought this up, but again:
1) This is not a problem III, IV or VI had; this is entirely new and original to VII and was not an issue in previous games in the series.
2) A scene that is 'obviously' our two characters acknowledging they're in love and becoming a couple even if they don't say it (Tifa has that whole bit of dialogue about how they don't need to say it to know how they feel about one another which in a vacuum is very sweet) but which doesn't have them actually say it then leaves room for sequel writers years later to go "yeah they aren't actually a couple it's all Ambiguous Plausible Deniability" which is why you need to nail that shit down.

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In Corneille's El Cid, one of the great plays of French Enlightenment-era theatre, the character of Chimène tells to her lover Rodrigue (the titular El Cid): "Go; I hate thee not." This is an incredibly famous line that is very often used as an example in French literature class because, In context, I hate thee not is the most socially permissible way for Chimène to say to Rodrigue, who just killed her father in a duel of honor and whom she's expected to hate, I love you. It's all very subtle and tsuki ga kirei and all that, but it didn't prevent French literature from also having characters who kiss on the page, and neither did Natsume Soseki's work keep Final Fantasy IV from ending on a kiss and an official royal couple being crowned :V
 
Omicron said:
Right, I brought this up, but again:
1) This is not a problem III, IV or VI had; this is entirely new and original to VII and was not an issue in previous games in the series.
2) A scene that is 'obviously' our two characters acknowledging they're in love and becoming a couple even if they don't say it (Tifa has that whole bit of dialogue about how they don't need to say it to know how they feel about one another which in a vacuum is very sweet) but which doesn't have them actually say it then leaves room for sequel writers years later to go "yeah they aren't actually a couple it's all Ambiguous Plausible Deniability" which is why you need to nail that shit down.
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"What will sequel writers do with the circumstances I have given them" is probably no writer's top priority, nor should it be, I think. Tell your story. Someone else (including your future self) fucks it up later? That's on them.
 
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Zimmerwald1915 said:
"What will sequel writers do with the circumstances I have given them" is probably no writer's top priority, nor should it be, I think. Tell your story. Someone else (including your future self) fucks it up later? That's on them.
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"Someone else," if only.

I'm looking at the writing and directing credits for Advent Children right now: sometimes, the 'sequel writer' you have to coup proof your work against is yourself.
 
I probably should have said this earlier after the midgar raid but according to before crisis Rufus founded the larger avalanche organization in order to kill his father and take the company which there are still hints of in remake
 
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