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Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]

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Cirina said:
Pretty sure by the time FF9 was made, it was in fact being made for non-crts and that america was just behind the times.

Even other ps1 games like SOTN weren't made with CRTs in mind and stuff like Dracula's eye glow were just pure coincidence. The whole 'PS1 games were intended to be viewed on CRTs' thing is entirely overblown.
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Even near 2010 there were still games that were designed with CRT in mind or look much better on such displays. Odin Sphere in 2007 just as an example, while it looks fine without a CRT it definitely takes it up a notch if it's displayed on one. A lot of UI elements in Kingdom Hearts and late era PS2 FF games have jagged edges without a CRT. Lighting and some atmospheric elements feel different on a non CRT screen as well.

It's something that definitely becomes less prominent and less absolute but it is something that remains a factor and should be considered.
 
Cirina said:
Pretty sure by the time FF9 was made, it was in fact being made for non-crts and that america was just behind the times.

Even other ps1 games like SOTN weren't made with CRTs in mind and stuff like Dracula's eye glow were just pure coincidence. The whole 'PS1 games were intended to be viewed on CRTs' thing is entirely overblown.
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No, CRT Televisions were the main TV sets used at home in the 90s and the early '00s. Flat panel TVs existed, but the price was very high (see this 42" plasma TV, 15.000 $ in 1999), but the main use of flat panels was for displays and monitors. As with every other PS1 game, FFIX was made with the expectation that most players would play it on a CRT display.

PS2 games were mixed. Early on the mian display would still be a CRT, while later on plasma TVs and LCD ones would become more common (plasma outsold CRT in 2005, LCD in 2007). Some later games were made witht the idea of playing them on flat panel screens and do have some upscaling features: Gran Turismo 4 could be played on HD TVs with a resolution of 1080i, for example, and other games supported 720i or even 720p. I played FF XII on a CRT TV and the game looked more than fine, though you could see differences when put side to side with a CRT.
 
Flare said:
No, CRT Televisions were the main TV sets used at home in the 90s and the early '00s. Flat panel TVs existed, but the price was very high (see this 42" plasma TV, 15.000 $ in 1999), but the main use of flat panels was for displays and monitors. As with every other PS1 game, FFIX was made with the expectation that most players would play it on a CRT display.

PS2 games were mixed. Early on the mian display would still be a CRT, while later on plasma TVs and LCD ones would become more common (plasma outsold CRT in 2005, LCD in 2007). Some later games were made witht the idea of playing them on flat panel screens and do have some upscaling features: Gran Turismo 4 could be played on HD TVs with a resolution of 1080i, for example, and other games supported 720i or even 720p. I played FF XII on a CRT TV and the game looked more than fine, though you could see differences when put side to side with a CRT.
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And yes, this is true even in Japan, as famous historical documentary Persona 4 demonstrates. :D

(Seriously, it dates from 2008 and the giant flatscreen the party uses to access the place all the game's dungeons are in is noted as something expensive only a rich person would buy, and really just in the Junes department store as a display item; they don't have much of an electronics section to begin with.)
 
AliasiSudonomo said:
And yes, this is true even in Japan, as famous historical documentary Persona 4 demonstrates. :D

(Seriously, it dates from 2008 and the giant flatscreen the party uses to access the place all the game's dungeons are in is noted as something expensive only a rich person would buy, and really just in the Junes department store as a display item; they don't have much of an electronics section to begin with.)
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This tracks: to give an idea of the price of a flat-screen TV at the time, a 46" Sony Qualia 005 costed 10.000$ in 2004.
 
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illhousen said:
Cut the Gordian Knot.

Play the mobile port.
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I'm pretty sure that's the version I have, albeit on PC via Steam. Been waiting for Omi to start his FFIX playthrough to have the unique experience of running the game simultaneously (I'm very early into it).

Until then, I've got other games. Probably bought one too many Ultimate Admiral/General games in the winter sale. But confiscating Spanish ships for His Majesty is so very fun. *boards another Spanish brig*
 
One last brainworm from FFT: Magic Cards for non-Ramza characters.

Mustadio: Blue, maybe Blue/Black? His main characterization is being cunning and distrustful.
Tap to deal 1 damage to target creature or players.
Creatures damaged by Mustadio cannot deal damage or use activated abilities until the end of their controller's turn.

Agrias: White
Tap: deal damage equal to Agrias's power to target creature or player. Tap creatures damaged in this way.

Delita: Blue/Black
When Delita ETB, become the Monarch
Tap: target creature fights another target creature. (Or possibly Goad target creature if designing for commander)

Rapha/Mapha
Pay something and Tap: Roll 5d6. For each 5 or 6 rolled, deal one damage to target creature or player.

Gaffgarion: Black
Lifelink
Tap: deal damage equal to Gaffgarion's power to target creature or player.

Cid: White/Blue/Red
Lifelink
Tap: deal damage equal to Cid's power to target creature or player. Tap creatures damaged in this way. Destroy any equipment equipped to creatures damaged in this way.
 
thamuzz said:
Mustadio: Blue, maybe Blue/Black? His main characterization is being cunning and distrustful.
Tap to deal 1 damage to target creature or players.
Creatures damaged by Mustadio cannot deal damage or use activated abilities until the end of their controller's turn.
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Remember that Black is characterized by Greed/Ambition/Selfishness. Being cunning and distrustful can fit in any of the colors.
 
Entropy Judge said:
Remember that Black is characterized by Greed/Ambition/Selfishness. Being cunning and distrustful can fit in any of the colors.
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Which means, given that any character not named Ramza barely has the ability to string two independent thoughts together once they've fully joined, much less 'be selfish,' nobody on his side would have any Black in their color setups.

I mean, I guess there are the occasional sidequest cutscenes they're involved in, but those basically don't exist for any non-Ramza character not themselves named Mustadio, Agrias, Beowulf, or Reis.

And all of them seem to basically abandon even the personal wants and beliefs they're allowed to express in those or before joining to follow Ramza and Alma on their chocobo ride into the sunset if that one statement by the director is to be believed.

... Though I guess abandoning the rest of Ivalice to sort out the aftermath of the Lucavi conspiracy falling apart and taking out the vast majority of its upper class with it means Ramza himself could be pretty Black.
 
wetodet said:
... Though I guess abandoning the rest of Ivalice to sort out the aftermath of the Lucavi conspiracy falling apart and taking out the vast majority of its upper class with it means Ramza himself could be pretty Black.
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Look, Ramza left an extremely trustworthy King on the throne - he could tell, he'd known the man since infancy! - married to a queen who both his personal experience, and the testimony of both his sister (the Queen's best friend) and the Queen's former bodyguard (who'd watched her for years) would let him know was an honest person with a pure soul and great kindness. And one of his few friends, son of the best fighter in his group who was also his father's oldest friend, also stayed with them as a trustworthy advisor!

That seems like extremely responsible behavior on Ramza's part; after all, Delita is smart, Orran and Ovelia can counsel him to keep him from letting his more ruthless side go too far, and Delita himself can keep Orran safe from any backlash that might come from him being Cid's son, has the fighting power to protect Ovelia, and would himself be completely immune to assassination since he's a suspicious dude and wouldn't trust anybody to get close enough to him to stab him by surprise. So, not only did Ramza leave the best people he had at hand in charge of fixing the kingdom, they also are almost immune to being removed from power!

Right?
 
wetodet said:
...Though I guess abandoning the rest of Ivalice to sort out the aftermath of the Lucavi conspiracy falling apart and taking out the vast majority of its upper class with it means Ramza himself could be pretty Black.
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How the heck is that Ramza's responsibility to fix? It would say something about him to assume responsibility for that. He already went vastly above and beyond with the quest he already undertook. It's not a mark of selfishness to refuse the burden of the world on your shoulders. It's the mark of hubris or sainthood to accept something like that.
 
Kaiya said:
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How the heck is that Ramza's responsibility to fix? It would say something about him to assume responsibility for that. He already went vastly above and beyond with the quest he already undertook. It's not a mark of selfishness to refuse the burden of the world on your shoulders. It's the mark of hubris or sainthood to accept something like that.
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Okay, yeah, that might not be entirely fair - I was kind of projecting some of my bewilderment at the 'wait literally none of the party with actual lingering attachments to Ivalice and its people, like Agrias to Ovelia or Cid to his son, stuck around to even say goodbye?' onto the judgment of whether the decision was selfish per se.
 
Also I'm not sure Ramza has the skills to help sort out Ivalice anyway?

He's a very accomplished warrior and killer, but those aren't skills conducive to rebuilding a kingdom ravaged by war.

What he would even do if he stuck around and somehow managed to clear his name? Be Delita's hatchetman? Lead knights to suppress banditry? It's not like Ivalice has any shortage of people to serve those roles.
 
He's also kinda sorta hated by the majority of the populace so anybody associating with him has their image irrevocably tainted - him staying would hurt Delita's efforts to be a good ruler more than help and he knows it
 
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