Mandemon
Gentlemen, I love brawl.
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I am going to be honest, I am looking at those "backlash" posts and... they seem to be ironic in nature? Like seriously. "Why is my yuri anime going gay" is not a comment you can make seriously.
Lesbian and Yuri Anime/TV/Novel/General Discussion Thread
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I am going to be honest, I am looking at those "backlash" posts and... they seem to be ironic in nature? Like seriously. "Why is my yuri anime going gay" is not a comment you can make seriously.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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Nah, it was a reaction to the post, which was a pretty weird take.
So it deserved a reaction in vein of "Oh no, gay anime is suddenly gay, however shall you cope."
Gray-Productions
Naturally Infernal Draco Milk
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Oh no, the gay lesbians show has... gay lesbians /s
The animoo community really needs to look at the rest of the world beyond their weird bubble and see that trends are always influenced and influencing. That being said, I'm honestly glad that anime has been able to tackle these things openly compared to the massive subtext that was in earlier years
Tyran
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I like him. The guy is ruthless but as Teru stated has his own kind of kindness. And that Teru can see that showcases how extremely empathic she is.
Can you explain more if it gotten better?
I got turned off from the manga/novel due to how Rae view homeless orphans, there's this condescending tone with the way she view the child beggars.
Tyran
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It is like the entire plot, so not without spoiling the whole thing.
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Good thing if she gets radicalised since "villainess" stories (at least the bad ones) have a tendency to be very "fuck the poor" since the villainess actually is the good guy and the heroine (generally a commoner) is actually literally Satan.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
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Rei is… a character. Spoilers for the entire series, but the game she's reincarnated into is called Revolution.
A lot of people dislike Rei for various things, which I think is fair enough, because rather than being your typical heroine of love and justice, she is actually pretty fucked up due to going through a lot in her backstory. Like, it says something and is maybe a bit of an author tract that she's overall having a better time in a fantasy setting that isn't at all supportive of lesbian relationships than she did back in Japan.
Well, there are a few details about the above sentences that aren't quite accurate, but spoilers for literally everything.
So, like, sorry for not directly answering your question, because I honestly don't remember, but Rei isn't a moral exemplar and isn't meant to be. She's sympathetic on a few issues, baffling on others, and downright hypocritical on yet another few.
DracoDracul
Transbian Communist
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That's so weird because the progenitor of the genre, My Next Life as a Villainess, All Routes Lead to Doom!, has the heroine of the original game be as pure as driven snow. The titular villainess is only good because she's got all the memories of the kindhearted tomboy Otaku she was in the last life.
Paleb05
A Believer of Optimism in the World
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It's a funny thing that tends to happen if you take a look back at a story that created or popularized certain tropes could almost come across at times as a deconstruction of those tropes. TV Tropes have even gone as far as referring to it as Unbuilt Trope. A lot of times what happens is a story/idea gets popular and then creates a lot of copies of it but those copies tend to only do a surface level reading of the idea instead of sitting down and showing why things are that way.
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I don't recall that from the novel.
IIRC, Rae is secretly donating a lot of her money to feed the poor and also to the revolutionary group that's going to overthrow the aristocracy.
Tyran
Blatant Product Placement (pro bono)
Wasn't that one Dole?
IIRC Rae was saving her money for Claire to be able to rebuild her life.
IIRC Rae was saving her money for Claire to be able to rebuild her life.
There is a dirty word in Japanese, which I will inline spoiler here: 浮浪者. Unlike the mere word for wandering ronin, it is immensely taboo. Now, for Rae to discredit the *child* beggars is doubly foul. Was she doing so to just fit in?
FelOnyx
Love and Peace!
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Is that the case? Far as I can tell it's being superseded, but still appears normally in recent newspaper articles and such.
Well, I am surprised by this, though it should be expected if this is coming from one of those e-zines (just look at most tabloids) rather than a major newspaper being circulated across a larger readership.
This does remind me of another matter, whether yuri is still very niche in Japan or if it has successfully filled the broader, more visible categories, allowing more of a balanced blend. Though, a cursory glimpse suggests the formula for print continues to scratch the same itch. I wonder if it can be said that more one-off shows like Birdie Wing will be what starts to pique more people's interest as opposed to adapting from a pool of very Disney princess literature, if you'll pardon.
This does remind me of another matter, whether yuri is still very niche in Japan or if it has successfully filled the broader, more visible categories, allowing more of a balanced blend. Though, a cursory glimpse suggests the formula for print continues to scratch the same itch. I wonder if it can be said that more one-off shows like Birdie Wing will be what starts to pique more people's interest as opposed to adapting from a pool of very Disney princess literature, if you'll pardon.
The Narrator
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I thought she had to also give the revolutionaries some money to get in good with them? It's been a while since I read the novels, I might need to refresh my memory. Rae was up to a lot of different stuff in the background that we didn't find out about until the end.
FelOnyx
Love and Peace!
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I mean major national newspapers. It's uncommon, each one I checked had 10~20 articles over the last couple of years their search features went back to, compared to hundreds of search results for ホームレス, some but not all of which were referencing the titles of fiction or art pieces. Compared to terms I know are outright offensive, which all appeared less frequently and only as part of titles. Resources for language learners I checked warned it had a negative connotation, but not nearly as harshly as they warned against other offensive terms. Unless I'm missing something it seems equivalent to something like "bum"; rude, unlikely to be used in a respectable context, but not heinous to the point of being "immensely taboo" to use and requiring censorship.
Which, to wrap around to why it came up in the first place, doesn't make it seem I should view Rae all that harshly for using it.
Tyran
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So we have no idea what are you even talking about
I don't know if you have noticed but most people here do not read Japanese.
So we have no idea what are you even talking about
Tyran
Blatant Product Placement (pro bono)
See, the thing I have been checking the novel and I cannot find any place in which Rae gives such opinion.
She gives opinions about the Commoners Movement, the aristocracy, the monarchy, etc. but I cannot find any example in which she gives an opinion about beggars.
Now if it was Claire that would make sense, she is a condescending person and there is a scene in which she does react with disgust to a pair of beggar kids.
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blast flame
How far will we go if it means lighting the way?
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A more charitable reading might be that lots of people saw the premise, were excited but then disappointed by how the originator work went about it and sought to create something which more closely reflects what they thought the plot was going to be about.
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
Given the way publishers work, I don't know that that's anywhere near as common, though.
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I don't recall if literally any money was donated, but I recall Rae managed to get an audience with the revolutionaries by naming Dole as their sponsor, rather than because she donated money.