[L5R] Minor Clan Quest
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al103
Grumpy Russian Bear (SV edition)
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- Russia, Krasnoyarsk
Or it's Scorpion makes convinient way to plant somebody in our troops as they weren't ready when we were on recruiting spree.
Still...
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So we set out with our safe option delegation and a general sense that we don't want to cause waves only to jump in to confrontation at the first chance we get? That said, we live three feet from death...[x] Do Not Intervene
Edit: Better part of valor, play the game as its meant to be played and don't rock the boat. Don't get mixed up.
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Yeah, I think it'd be dreadfully out of character to let this pass.
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The Dragon lack motive I can think of to be laying deliberate social traps for us (barring some kind of precognition play from Togashi), but we should still be careful about this if we can. Ideally we should give the Mirumoto an excuse to back down gracefully and/or a chance to explain why there's a convoluted good reason for this nonsense.
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The Dragon lack motive I can think of to be laying deliberate social traps for us (barring some kind of precognition play from Togashi), but we should still be careful about this if we can. Ideally we should give the Mirumoto an excuse to back down gracefully and/or a chance to explain why there's a convoluted good reason for this nonsense.
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
I'm rather sure that she is both intelligent and mature enough to not take offense to this. She likely understand the social situation the best out of all of us.
A Nation's Virtue
南國山河南帝居
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Wade Garrett
Just trying to do the right thing
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And that message should NOT be that our Clan is a bunch of easily provoked half wits who will bow up at a Great Clan at the slightest provocation.
[X] Don't Intervene
-[X] Offer to let the ronin bed down with your yojimbo once the Dragon have found something else to amuse themselves with.
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The situation is we've left our province for the season with the one person who can't act directly in our name, brought along younger and less glorious people than herself (including a girl who can't keep her On together for more than a few seconds), and are now suddenly a-okay with flouting the social order by diving in to a fight that isn't ours and decorum would demand we ignore.
Understanding why something is done doesn't make the offense any less, especially when as noted the reasoning is hardly ironclad.
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
Look I don't feel like arguing about this so @storybookknight can you weight in?
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Sure. Hatsuyuki definitely understands your reasoning. She is more than happy to entertain guests in Zakyo Toshi in your absence and to make sure that the debut of the Silken Song goes well.
EDIT: If you hadn't just done her a massive favor by trying to change society in her favor, she'd probably be more hurt, but as things stand you are firmly in her good books.
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This would seem to be a problem.
It's one thing to bring a geisha to the Imperial Winter Court, there at least she'd be present as an entertainer and servant, it's quite another to leave her in charge. There seems to be a disconnect in the logic surrounding the perception and social position she possesses. She can't come to court because it'd be scandalous, but we can leave her in charge as if she were samurai? Whoever we leave there is our recognized representative, they speak with our voice and are worthy to make judgements in our absence and carry on the duties of the daimyo.
And we just put a geisha in that spot.
I realize this seems like a quibble, but these shifting rationale are twisting my head around and messing with immersion.
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This would seem to be a problem.
It's one thing to bring a geisha to the Imperial Winter Court, there at least she'd be present as an entertainer and servant, it's quite another to leave her in charge. There seems to be a disconnect in the logic surrounding the perception and social position she possesses. She can't come to court because it'd be scandalous, but we can leave her in charge as if she were samurai? Whoever we leave there is our recognized representative, they speak with our voice and are worthy to make judgements in our absence and carry on the duties of the daimyo.
And we just put a geisha in that spot.
I realize this seems like a quibble, but these shifting rationale are twisting my head around and messing with immersion.
Does entertaining guests in your absence work? In any case you have very few guests in general, being as new of a Clan as you are.
al103
Grumpy Russian Bear (SV edition)
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- Russia, Krasnoyarsk
Oh, she is not in charge... she just "speak her view of situation"... and that everybody follows what she say - well, what a coincedence!This would seem to be a problem.
It's one thing to bring a geisha to the Imperial Winter Court, there at least she'd be present as an entertainer and servant, it's quite another to leave her in charge. There seems to be a disconnect in the logic surrounding the perception and social position she possesses. She can't come to court because it'd be scandalous, but we can leave her in charge as if she were samurai? Whoever we leave there is our recognized representative, they speak with our voice and are worthy to make judgements in our absence and carry on the duties of the daimyo.
And we just put a geisha in that spot.
I realize this seems like a quibble, but these shifting rationale are twisting my head around and messing with immersion.
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No, it's fine. I'm probably just looking for more verisimilitude than is really there. The quest is focused on the away game at the Winter Court, but really our home game would still be very important. A whole bunch of new clan samurai stuck in a city together, with whatever guests do come (I can't imagine the Scorpion not trying to secure at least a spot or two as well as the Doji who are like friggin' mushrooms), and who we left behind is just as important as who we brought. Every advisor coming along was a bit of a surprise result, I'd thought for sure either Yu or Minato would have been left to oversee the city in our abscence and keep any fires from growing out of control.
We can't have our cake and eat it too is all I'm saying. If she can't come to court, she can't run a court, and we need a respectable face back home for our first winter away.
That's beyond paper thin, and not the sort of thing we can ever hope to rely on when our neighbors are Scorpions.
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
Honestly, if it would have had any chance, I would have voted to bring Jirou, but eh.
al103
Grumpy Russian Bear (SV edition)
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It's also not something that we can be really called on. Especially by Scorpions.That's beyond paper thin, and not the sort of thing we can ever hope to rely on when our neighbors are Scorpions.
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No, it's fine. I'm probably just looking for more verisimilitude than is really there. The quest is focused on the away game at the Winter Court, but really our home game would still be very important. A whole bunch of new clan samurai stuck in a city together, with whatever guests do come (I can't imagine the Scorpion not trying to secure at least a spot or two as well as the Doji who are like friggin' mushrooms), and who we left behind is just as important as who we brought. Every advisor coming along was a bit of a surprise result, I'd thought for sure either Yu or Minato would have been left to oversee the city in our abscence and keep any fires from growing out of control.
We can't have our cake and eat it too is all I'm saying. If she can't come to court, she can't run a court, and we need a respectable face back home for our first winter away.
That's beyond paper thin, and not the sort of thing we can ever hope to rely on when our neighbors are Scorpions.
That is a very fair point, and not something that I had honestly thought about. If anyone wants to write up a scene or two where Hatsuyuki takes care of diplomacy while the Clan leaders are away, you are more than welcome to do so.
As things stand, @Mina , have a free raise for keeping me honest.
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Tell the dragon samurai to leave because the inn is full.
Join the ronin for tea.
Tell the dragon samurai to leave because the inn is full.
Join the ronin for tea.
Actually that sort of paper thin screen is EXACTLY what Rokugan courtly etiquette is about. Everyone knows you're doing something you're not supposed to.That's beyond paper thin, and not the sort of thing we can ever hope to rely on when our neighbors are Scorpions.
But as long as it fulfills the needs of the facade, whatever is actually happening is irrelevant.
It's not WRONG to be 'inspired' by the words of a Geisha to do exactly as she says.
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I think there are functional differences between leaning on a geisha in court and leaving one running it as a puppet mistress. One is a personal foible that is hardly a matter to pursue, while the other is like making your horse a consul. None of this of course is something anyone could act directly on, but it does make fertile ground for rumor about our already doting relationship with them.It's not WRONG to be 'inspired' by the words of a Geisha to do exactly as she says.
Dirtnap
Kanmusu Affecionado
Extra Extra read all about it, Minor Clan actually run by Geisha! Catfish Daimyo is just a figurehead! Extra Extra!
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We're going to start getting makeup and musical instruments as gifts now.
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I mean, this is your Clan's first year as a Clan and you have been invited to Winter Court. I don't think it is wholly unreasonable to say "come back in the spring" to all of your guests.
I think that is largely what I am going to do. Turn 3 will include a 'what do we do with all the guests that waited to see you' option.
I think that is largely what I am going to do. Turn 3 will include a 'what do we do with all the guests that waited to see you' option.
Wade Garrett
Just trying to do the right thing
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I don't understand the point of leaving Auntie behind to be diplomatic if we where's going to UNLEASH THE EKU OF JUSTICE at the first Great Clan samurai to do anything mildly provocative in our presence.
The Champion of a Minor Clan barking orders to the samurai of a Great Clan, inside that Clan's territory...yeah. That seems like a thing that's going to work.
The Champion of a Minor Clan barking orders to the samurai of a Great Clan, inside that Clan's territory...yeah. That seems like a thing that's going to work.