My question is really simple, why did you have to rush it first turn? Why? You still would have gotten what you said was your primary goal, establishing an entertainment sector, in voting for Patron if we took it turn two. You realize what you gave up to take Patron first turn? We could have had a network of contacts across the Empire, we could have had allies in and thus some access to every court. However, you instead you chose Patron of the Arts turn 1, a choice whose one advantage is that it somewhat legitimized the Geisha. Then you throw that away and never use the advantage you chose. Was it really worth taking Patron as a turn 1 choice just to moderately patch up one of the many things our clan could be criticized for? It is irrelevant now given that Koibu has already won, but when you commit to an option with high opportunity costs, commit to it with the intention of getting something worth those costs out of it. If we hadn't taken Patron turn 1 and just turtled up at court as I initially suggested, and you seem now to favor, we would have gotten some taunts over the Geisha thing, but nothing that would cause lasting harm. Instead turn 1 we chose to position ourselves for strong plays in court, by making it possible to bring our best diplomatic specialist and by trying to get blackmail material on the departing nobles. Now people want to throw that investment away and play defensive. I mean why am I the one being asked to come up for objectives for court? I who voted against the court options. Shouldn't everyone who voted for them have had something in mind when they chose it?
Paragraphs. They're a thing.
And I picked it because it was the most interesting choice that turn, and unlike you, I'm not willing to dismiss the new options we'll get next turn as valueless. I did not pick Patron of the Arts because I was terrified of having a slightly higher infamy rating at Winter Court.
You're being asked for Winter Court objectives because you're trying to argue people into voting for a high-risk play. No duh people ask you how you intend for that risk to pay off - otherwise you look like you're just trying to spite the other voters in the quest for not following your lead in the first turn.
Also, if you have any intention of trying to change my mind about things - read what I say about why I make the choices I pick. Defeating a strawman doesn't help convince me of anything.
OK, so what I see here is a legitimate conflict of interests and values. Colors for emphasis.
The polite, reasoned way to handle it:
Platypus: Candesce,
I'm a little bit confused about why you don't
seem to want to bring Hatsuyuki along this turn.
My understanding was that the benefit of legitimizing the Geisha immediately was to leverage their strengths at Winter Court next turn.
I still feel like not taking the chance to make friends with the nobles was a huge opportunity cost, and since that vote lost
I feel like the best way to make up for that lost opportunity is to double down on the geisha and leverage the huge success we just had. Can you please explain why you seem to feel differently?
Candesce: Platypus,
I actually voted for the geisha because
I was more concerned about what was best for our long term growth than lost opportunities, and didn't feel like the scummy nobles were as important.
I feel like taking the more diplomatic Koibu to Winter Court will be a better way of making those friends in every clan that you mentioned, because
I agree that is important, but would prefer to do it with honorable samurai instead.
Tl; dr: To avoid making the QM cranky and to avoid silly internet arguments, use
I instead of
you, and avoid making
direct statements about other people's intent by using your
impressions of their behavior instead. And if
it doesn't matter, because this is all just a game, let it go.
