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[L5R] Minor Clan Quest

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I just realized that with such group of misfits and they insights it's all would make epic story of clan founding. Not as epic as great clan ones, but still epic. Despite there not being much fighting past initial "save Emperor" bit. They don't even need storytelling "padding" except for Axe.
 
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It's not complete list yet, but I decided to make some analysis anyway.

Existing traditions:
The Oar - Samurai of the Catfish clan suffer no Honor loss for performing manual labor if that labor is related to boats, nor any Honor loss for using peasant weapons if that weapon is an Eku.
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This while it may clash with sensibilities of some clans is excellent tradition. While samurai are primarily warrior and administrators the more "honorable" way to make live for themselves and to enrich clan the better. And opens many potential ways to strengthen the clan while not stepping on too many toes.
Conclusion: Maintain as much as possible

Geisha Patrons - The Catfish clan has a long history of friendly relationships with Geisha despite the latter's status as Hinin, non-people. Namazu samurai suffer honor loss for injuring any member of the sex trade that does not pose a clear threat to them.
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Politics wise it's bad tradition to have, but frankly speaking I can't be unhappy about "they are people too" mentality in the clan. Helps to prevents some mistakes too and don't ignore things "just because".
Conclusion: may not worth it to maintain it, but I personally prefer it this way

Gamblers - The Catfish Clan have a long tradition of gambling, and it is said that the deal that formed the Warakkoi-gumi was arrived at in part as a wager at the gambling table. Catfish samurai treat wagers with an unusual degree of respect, and may even consider them an alternative to iaijutsu duels (though not in matters where a life is on the line.)
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On one hand it's bad tradition to have, especially as we are Clan now. On other it's harmless enough. Worth to "step on" in general, but don't worth consequences of doing so. We are gamblers, let's live with that. If it would fall of - good, if it would persist - nothing serious.
Conclusion: do nothing

Potential Axe traditions:
Short Hair - due to the firefighting origins of the Firemen, short hair (that is unlikely to burn or singe) may become a preferred style.
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While it may clash with sensibilities of some (read: Crane) big clan samurai it's useful tradition to have. Short hair can't be used against you in combat. It's also easy to maintain - we are not rich clan and proper look is important, so clean and tended short hair > messy long hair.
Conclusion: Not worth it to actively adopt it, but it would be nice if it will spread naturally.

Leadership Of The Strong - All else being equal, it may be physical might and combat prowess that determine who leads the military.
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Meh. Even for military strength is not everything.
On other hand it at least better than "connections" or "right blood" and gives some meritocracy.
Conlusion: if it will adopt naturally - good, if it would not - also good.

Large Weapons - the bushi of the Catfish may develop a preference for large weaponry.
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Not a good tradition to have, not a bad tradition to have...
*looks on our Eku tradition*
Conclusion: it's pointless to try to counteract it. It would be adopted whether we want it or not.

Potential Rock traditions:
Noodles - Wheat noodles are a favorite of Koeru Mura, and may gain popularity in Zakyo Toshi as well.
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Regional Preference Food. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Conclusion: whatever

Humility - The Namazu may choose to focus on Humility over other aspects of Bushido.
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Not one of prime seven as I remember them... which may be reason for half of the shit that happens in Rokugan.
Conclusion: ADOPT IT IMMIDIATELY Carefully strengthen this tradition

Ebisu's Favor - The Namazu may develop a strong tolerance for, and respect of, manual labor and the heimin who provide it.
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One one hand it shares problems with Hinin one... on other it shares benefits. With much less stink and much more profit.
Conclusion: worth it to adopt it even if we didn't had Hinin one already

Potential Inari Prophet Priestess traditions
Smoke - the Namazu may come to enjoy the contemplative effects of various herbal cigarettes.
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Fffff... It's not bad in moderation... but looking on who core of our clan consist of...
Conclusion: RESIST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
Note: yes, it's not opium... yet. Leave this one to our clergy, they can do it as much as they want but as general tradition it sucks

Divination - the Namazu may begin the practice of consulting yarrow stalks or coins for insight into the future.
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Meh, whatever.
Conclusion: Meh, whatever

The Fortune of Rice - the Namazu may begin the slightly 'common' practice of venerating Inari-no-kami.
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Awesome for agriculture. Stacks with Ebisu.
Conclusion: that is exactly why we wanted her as advisor, isn't it? Adopt of course.
 
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al103 said:
It's not complete list yet, but I decided to make some analysis anyway.

Existing traditions:

This while it may clash with sensibilities of some clans is excellent tradition. While samurai are primarily warrior and administrators the more "honorable" way to make live for themselves and to enrich clan the better. And opens many potential ways to strengthen the clan while not stepping on too many toes.
Conclusion: Maintain as much as possible


Politics wise it's bad tradition to have, but frankly speaking I can't be unhappy about "they are people too" mentality in the clan. Helps to prevents some mistakes too and don't ignore things "just because".
Conclusion: may not worth it to maintain it, but I personally prefer it this way


Conclusion: On one hand it's bad tradition to have, especially as we are Clan now. On other it's harmless enough. Worth to "step on" in general, but don't worth consequences of doing so. We are gamblers, let's live with that. If it would fall of - good, if it would persist - nothing serious.


Potential Axe traditions:

While it may clash with sensibilities of some (read: Crane) big clan samurai it's useful tradition to have. Short hair can't be used against you in combat. It's also easy to maintain - we are not rich clan and proper look is important, so clean and tended short hair > messy long hair.
Conclusion: Not worth it to actively adopt it, but it would be nice if it will spread naturally.


Meh. Even for military strength is not everything.
On other hand it at least better than "connections" or "right blood" and gives some meritocracy.
Conlusion: if it will adopt naturally - good, if it would not - also good.


Not a good tradition to have, not a bad tradition to have...
*looks on our Eku tradition*
Conclusion: it's pointless to try to counteract it. It would be adopted whether we want it or not.

Potential Rock traditions:

Regional Preference Food. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Conclusion: whatever


Not one of prime seven as I remember them... which may be reason for half the shit that happens in Rokugan.
Conclusion: ADOPT IT IMMIDIATELY Carefully strengthen this tradition


One one hand it shares problems with Hinin one... on other it shares benefits. With much less stink and much more profit.
Conclusion: worth it to adopt it even if we didn't had Hinin one already

Potential Inari Prophet Priestess traditions

Fffff... It's not bad in moderation... but looking on who core of our clan consist of...
Conclusion: RESIST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
Note: yes, it's not opium... yet. Leave this one to our clergy, they can do it as much as they want but as general tradition it sucks


Meh, whatever.
Conclusion: Meh, whatever


Awesome for agriculture. Stacks with Ebisu.
Conclusion: that is exactly why we wanted her as advisor, isn't it? Adopt of course.
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Good catch on Humility. I'll alter the language slightly to read 'in addition to the tenets of Bushido.'
 
I strongly suspect we are going to end up very much a clan of the peopel. Something like a philosophy that says while protecting the the heimin should be a samurai's main duty, that dosn't mean its shameful or dishonorable to pitch in and lend a hand when there are no threats to deal with.
 
random_npc said:
I strongly suspect we are going to end up very much a clan of the peopel. Something like a philosophy that says while protecting the the heimin should be a samurai's main duty, that dosn't mean its shameful or dishonorable to pitch in and lend a hand when there are no threats to deal with.
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It's more like we will press hard on Administrator part of Samurai Duty instead of Leroy Jenkins Warrior one. I honestly can't imagine Catfish to be nice to Heimin. Fair? Yes. Caring? Yes. But not nice. Because "you should fucking double your effort" is not nice even if right.

If somebody remembers:
Giant MaceOar-wielding Barbarian Yakuza Administrators
*desire to edit Yasuki part of year-old post for Yakuza rising*
We will fit right in, but let's try not go that way and be our own Giant Oar-wielding Yakuza Administrators.
 
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al103 said:
It's more like we will press hard on Administrator part of Samurai Duty instead of Leroy Jenkins Warrior one. I honestly can't imagine Catfish to be nice to Heimin. Fair? Yes. Caring? Yes. But not nice. Because "you should fucking double your effort" is not nice even if right.
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still puts our peasants well ahead of the average.
 
storybookknight said:
Hey, this isn't Great Clan Quest we're playing. :p
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You say that like most of the great clans weren't just a kami and a bunch of random dudes he or she liked. Yes, sometimes they did things that were impressive or whatever, but in general? The Kami did as Namazu-dono is doing, find people that meet their criteria and recruit them!
 
Just an FYI - if people find pictures that I like for any named NPC that I have not yet found a picture for (right now, I think that this is mainly Minato, Yu, and Chouko) I am potentially willing to hand out Free Raises on upcoming rolls to be used as people like.

Same goes for good omake, truly excellent haiku, a decent picture of the Namazu Mon, and so on.
 
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al103 said:
Regional Preference Food. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Conclusion: whatever
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Some minor advantage to noodles, flour is easier to transport and preserve than rice, its also easier to grow wheat and other grains(it all mills into flour anyway) than rice, which is notoriously picky as a crop for soil and water needs, even if its hard to match rice's harvest per acre.

Basically? Less crop crashes due to drought, disease and vermin, but less raw farmland output.
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One one hand it shares problems with Hinin one... on other it shares benefits. With much less stink and much more profit.
Conclusion: worth it to adopt it even if we didn't had Hinin one already
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We got a lot of 'commoner-like' practices. Good for practicality, but it'd be hard to social climb when we do the courtly equivalent of scratching your ass in public.
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Meh, whatever.
Conclusion: Meh, whatever
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Depends on whether we're actually any good at reading omens.
 
veekie said:
Some minor advantage to noodles, flour is easier to transport and preserve than rice, its also easier to grow wheat and other grains(it all mills into flour anyway) than rice, which is notoriously picky as a crop for soil and water needs, even if its hard to match rice's harvest per acre.

Basically? Less crop crashes due to drought, disease and vermin, but less raw farmland output.
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We get all that from Humility part - "If you have land for Wheat grow Wheat." This is more of "and if have land for Rice still grow Wheat".

veekie said:
We got a lot of 'commoner-like' practices. Good for practicality, but it'd be hard to social climb when we do the courtly equivalent of scratching your ass in public.
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At the moment we are country bumpkin clan and would be looked like that whatever we do, attempts to deny that would just make us "noveau riche idiot" clan. We need to find our "honorable pursuit" niche, not to cut our roots - then it would move to "each clan have it's quirks" instead of ass scratching.

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Depends on whether we're actually any good at reading omens.
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As clan-wide tradition most likely answer is "not very".
 
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al103 said:
We get all that from Humility part - "If you have land for Wheat grow Wheat." This is more of "and if have land for Rice still grow Wheat".
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Rice flour makes nice noodles actually.

al103 said:
At the moment we are country bumpkin clan and would be looked like that whatever we do, attempts to deny that would just make us "noveau riche idiot" clan. We need to find our "honorable pursuit" niche, not to cut our roots - then it would move to "each clan have it quirks" instead of ass scratching.
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Agreed, as long as we maintain common forms of Honor and gather no Infamy.

al103 said:
As clan-wide tradition most likely answer is "not very".
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Case of get good or don't try then
 
gman391 said:
One day I'll restart Ronin Quest, One day.
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I know those feels, bro. I have a couple stories on fanfiction.net and spacebattles that I keep meaning to get back to, and never seem to find the inspiration. That's part of why I keep writing this one so fast, so I can build up enough momentum to stay on top of the story.
 
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