Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
Hmm. We could use a few more votes on Central and Western Navel Fortifications.
Kingdom of God: A Quest of Holy Revolution
- Thread starter Cetashwayo
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- Original Fantasy
Hmm. We could use a few more votes on Central and Western Navel Fortifications.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Do we have enough on the Sailor's Uprising? If so, I can change my vote over to fortifications.
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
I think 13 is just enough, dont change your vote. For now at least. We should have more votes coming, save the changing for when the time limit gets to like an hour or something.
Cetashwayo
Lord of Ten Thousand Years
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- Across the Horizon
So FYI I was asked elsewhere and the Hendar Uprising is a small group of mouflons independent of a sect or major backer rising up and barricading their neighborhoods. They don't have much outside support and few weapons. It is the only Exarchate to have done so without some big leadership or direction.
Wendam is warning also that the new incoming standards are 'sheep-shearers'. Unlike Sword-Altar they have extensive experience putting down strikers and neigborhood uprisings. They don't have military experience but make up for it in savagery.
Wendam is warning also that the new incoming standards are 'sheep-shearers'. Unlike Sword-Altar they have extensive experience putting down strikers and neigborhood uprisings. They don't have military experience but make up for it in savagery.
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Given where the assault will come from, Naval control isn't as beneficial as I originally thought, although losing it remains deadly. Switching to HOLD
[X] Fortify and hold the Western Navel [Ma'on will be supporting this action].
[X] Fortify and hold the Western Navel [Ma'on will be supporting this action].
Pempelune
Fanfiction Deep State
It might be good to divert some sectpower from Mushad and Sailor's Uprising, both of which already have plenty of sectpower and where other sects and movements are already intervening, toward Hendar, that no one else but us care about. Remember that mouflon worker uprisings are our bread and butter as Pugilists (would definitely make a great start to our zone of influence post-coup), and beside from Hendar we can threaten a counter attack on the Juries, which would force them to withdraw from the Navel some.
Like seriously, Sarbadgar already has a small army marching on Mushad Bridge. He doesn't need much help there. The Hendar mouflons though have barely any weapons, they need our support. The exarchates are very dense, with winding streets that obscure line of sights and negate the Jurors' tech advantage: there's an opportunity for a big victory there. But to take advantage of that they need weapons.
Like seriously, Sarbadgar already has a small army marching on Mushad Bridge. He doesn't need much help there. The Hendar mouflons though have barely any weapons, they need our support. The exarchates are very dense, with winding streets that obscure line of sights and negate the Jurors' tech advantage: there's an opportunity for a big victory there. But to take advantage of that they need weapons.
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Its still not at all uncommon for sailors to be formed up into landing parties and act as infantry, often with dismounted secondary or tertiary guns from their warships. Depending on how many sailors are rebelling, the state of the armories they can seize on Alangan, and what ships are around they could strip cannons from, the rebels there could easily be a substantial military force in their own right even aside from getting the Sakorag steaming in the Hadit.
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Cetashwayo
Lord of Ten Thousand Years
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- Across the Horizon
Grandmaster has a big arsenal. He fucked up extremely bad, most of these sailors are veterans and there are marines as well.
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
I would love more on Handan, but we have to prioritize here. Again not saying we shouldnt help them, but military realities means that Fortificans and getting linked up with other veterans, radicals and big organized groups all trump them in importance.
We just dont have the resources to push to Handa and menace the Jurors flanks in an appreciable amount. Not unless we get 100 voters in total.
Pempelune
Fanfiction Deep State
We are not the only people in the city, seriously. Sarbadgar has the entire Mass Jury at his disposal. We do have to pick and chose our battles, but we also have to take into account what other people are doing. We may well be way more impactful in Hendar, if only because Sarbadgar does not need the help, while the mouflons definitely do.
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Cetashwayo
Lord of Ten Thousand Years
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- Across the Horizon
HaKhofshim are basically leading a massive group of affiliated fighters at this point, though, you have thousands upon thousands of people following you around and listening to you. So you do have the potential to sway stuff, even if obv others exist.
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
He has the entire Mass Jury, yes, and he needs it. And he needs us. Fort Karnak is literally on top of Murshad Bridge. Its the biggest Sword-Altar Fort left in the city, and likely has a garrison and firepower to match. And if we dont win with the Sailors, we probably wont be able to break it because if Sword Altar controls the River they can just resupply it with men and firepower longer than our Fervour can last
Sarbadgar's push is one of the most important pushes. Not just because it would connect us with Makabam and Ohr, but also because if Fort Karnak stands, we will always have a knife pressed at the throat of our defenses, and they can push out to aid the main push by the Originator.
Pempelune
Fanfiction Deep State
Massed manpower isn't that useful when forcing a bridge, it's artillery and machine guns that helps. Which Sarbadgar does have, and we don't. Massed manpower is extremely useful in urban defense though, like at Hendar.
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Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
If we break through the bridge, but dont have the mass manpower to break Fort Karnak, then the entire push was basically meaningless. Because Fort Karnak could then just sit there and pin Sarbadgar and his artillery, and Makabam and Ohr. All of these are things we cannot afford to have sitting there sieging a fort when 20 000 Originator Jurors are doing a mass push.
That Fort needs to fall before the Originator push in. Its literally at the prefect place to menace the hearts of our fortifications at the Western and Central Navels.
Pempelune
Fanfiction Deep State
I strongly doubt that taking the Fort is in the cards. If unlike Vikrag Prison it was properly built it will take more then courage and bodies to take it. Interdicting it is likely the best we can do.
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
If we support Sarbadgar well, have control of the River and Ironclads, and then Makabam and Ohr push with us. Then yes, it's possible. But you are right that it is dicey and if we don't go for it now, we probably won't have the strength to take it for the rest of this siege.
Like there is a reason why the most veteran commander in the allied forces is the one charging into this front. Our defenses will never hold if we leave something like that in our backside.
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[X] Fortify and hold the Central Navel [Kedesh & Melecha will be supporting this action].
Alright girls, let's show the brave child-killer-jurors what the Nuns of the Gunpowder Eucharist and the women of Nachivan can do.
Alright girls, let's show the brave child-killer-jurors what the Nuns of the Gunpowder Eucharist and the women of Nachivan can do.
Pempelune
Fanfiction Deep State
Sarbadgar doesn't mention the fort at all, he only talks about the bridge. But we'll see! In the end I do think there's no wasted vote, there's no place that couldn't use sectpower right now. But the Hendar mouflons are essentially defenseless, up against standards known for their brutality against strikers, and nobody but us will bother to do anything about it.
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Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
Listen I feel for the Hendar I really do, but 1) Its not like we are not helping them at all, there are 6 votes into it already. And 2) Military deployment isn't about who needs help more as the priority, it's about what's more likely to succeed with greater benefits.
Right now Sarbadgar is a surer bet. Hopefully, with the Jurors mass pushing into the Navel and 6 votes the Hendar Uprising can survive or pull back, but it's a siege. It's gonna be a lot uglier before this is over.
[X] Support the Hendar Uprising.
Chailani Rostam, as one of the sect members who did not need much medical attention – and indeed, one of the many that managed to snag the small arms of the Jurors for themselves – didn't ask for much. By this point, he is perched like a moa atop some empty barrels, remembering the Starshy Ilyon's advice on keeping guns clean. He did not need to speak so loud to reach the crowd still resting on the Mukvad Mekdash. His acappellic tenor cuts through the din of the restive and wounded alike.
We have protected the present. The body of the august Sanhedral assembly is saved. But the task is not yet done. The spiral is ever-whirling and ever-winding to the conclusion of Truth. And for the Exarchate workers of Hendar, they have found meaning in the teachings of Ghadi. Rostam's tenor rings clear as he eyed northwards: All here knew within their hearts, what the mouflons of the exarchate suffered outside the city walls. They're an oppressed lot, kept under by the lash and shears and butcher knives of the Jurors at every step and turn. Many of them do not partake in this struggle and huddle within their homes and for that, we should never blame them. Here, Rostam is stern. They've been blood-let and slaughtered and stamped far too many times to be rise. For these poor sods, Rostam lamented, the teachings of Ghadi are written on books while the scars of failed struggle are written in their skins.
And yet, the spirit of Pugilism lived on. In Little Eykshir, the spirit of Myriam the Witch-Sage lives on, battling iron hulls with iron men atop a wooden ship of defiance. In Dhago and Vanu, Tata Targon embodied the second demand of Pugilism: To ally with the sacred. Even if some of us holds reservations on the Exarch, it is undeniable that he is a fellow abetter for the Coming World.
Yet what of Hendar? They embody the spirit of Ghadi, these kins a generation removed from the Metamoa, but they are not taught by Simurgh. They know not the sacred angelforms and the ways to fight. Theirs are resistance of brave poor sods who refused to be downtrodden. Theirs are a doomed resistance, a momentary thorn on the sheep-shearer's side to be decimated by bullet splitters and grape shots.
Unless.
Chailani Rostam did not speak further as the word hangs in the air. Having cleaned his gun and loaded both it and the stolen revolvers, the son of the Low Priest baker turned sect fighter stands to the attention of the now-rested Nachivanites.
Arise flock of the devoted
The World to Come is approaching!
With those sonorous tenor, Rostam walked towards Northeast, towards Hendam and their vision of the Coming World.
Chailani Rostam, as one of the sect members who did not need much medical attention – and indeed, one of the many that managed to snag the small arms of the Jurors for themselves – didn't ask for much. By this point, he is perched like a moa atop some empty barrels, remembering the Starshy Ilyon's advice on keeping guns clean. He did not need to speak so loud to reach the crowd still resting on the Mukvad Mekdash. His acappellic tenor cuts through the din of the restive and wounded alike.
We have protected the present. The body of the august Sanhedral assembly is saved. But the task is not yet done. The spiral is ever-whirling and ever-winding to the conclusion of Truth. And for the Exarchate workers of Hendar, they have found meaning in the teachings of Ghadi. Rostam's tenor rings clear as he eyed northwards: All here knew within their hearts, what the mouflons of the exarchate suffered outside the city walls. They're an oppressed lot, kept under by the lash and shears and butcher knives of the Jurors at every step and turn. Many of them do not partake in this struggle and huddle within their homes and for that, we should never blame them. Here, Rostam is stern. They've been blood-let and slaughtered and stamped far too many times to be rise. For these poor sods, Rostam lamented, the teachings of Ghadi are written on books while the scars of failed struggle are written in their skins.
And yet, the spirit of Pugilism lived on. In Little Eykshir, the spirit of Myriam the Witch-Sage lives on, battling iron hulls with iron men atop a wooden ship of defiance. In Dhago and Vanu, Tata Targon embodied the second demand of Pugilism: To ally with the sacred. Even if some of us holds reservations on the Exarch, it is undeniable that he is a fellow abetter for the Coming World.
Yet what of Hendar? They embody the spirit of Ghadi, these kins a generation removed from the Metamoa, but they are not taught by Simurgh. They know not the sacred angelforms and the ways to fight. Theirs are resistance of brave poor sods who refused to be downtrodden. Theirs are a doomed resistance, a momentary thorn on the sheep-shearer's side to be decimated by bullet splitters and grape shots.
Unless.
Chailani Rostam did not speak further as the word hangs in the air. Having cleaned his gun and loaded both it and the stolen revolvers, the son of the Low Priest baker turned sect fighter stands to the attention of the now-rested Nachivanites.
Arise flock of the devoted
The World to Come is approaching!
With those sonorous tenor, Rostam walked towards Northeast, towards Hendam and their vision of the Coming World.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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- within 2 hours of the White House
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- They/Them
[X] Support the Hendar Uprising.
Roshim the Banner-Bearer looked around themself, and saw revolution. They looked to the past, and saw oppression. To the Future? well, that depended on them, didn't it?
Roshim the Banner-Bearer looked around themself, and saw revolution. They looked to the past, and saw oppression. To the Future? well, that depended on them, didn't it?
Genolution
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[X] Support the Hendar Uprising.
So, I want to ask, do you think word about the revolution is spreading to the rest of the country? Sympathetic uprisings in other cities, peasant revolts, garrison defections? I assume the telegraph stations are being fought over in the rest of the country?
If the revolution only has Nachivan, it does present some problems, but if other cities have the chance of rising up there's a concrete goal there.
So, I want to ask, do you think word about the revolution is spreading to the rest of the country? Sympathetic uprisings in other cities, peasant revolts, garrison defections? I assume the telegraph stations are being fought over in the rest of the country?
If the revolution only has Nachivan, it does present some problems, but if other cities have the chance of rising up there's a concrete goal there.
The telegraph lines are cut, so probably not, though I guess people would notice the juror standards moving
