In Thunder's Echo (Legend of the Five Rings Quest)

Single point skills are cheap. The full set you have up there (other than the plusses) costs 8 points. Certainly, if there's some reason to bow out of one or the other, we might as well save a point or two, but even if one of the other Scorpion is more competent, I think it would serve us well to have (and demonstrate) a bit of everything.

We should absolutely study battle, as a Courtier skill. Int+Battle is every bit as valuable as Poetry or Go, even if we never see a battlefield.

For stats, we have Agility 3. I don't think we need 4 - especially when 4 more points past that would let us crank our intelligence to 5, which is *far* more useful for our purposes. Improving Reflexes to 3 would be handy, especially if we can somehow get it done before the kenjutsu tournament - I'd be inclined to start saving more or less now on that one, actually, and see if we can make it.
My vote has us not spending any points right now so we can save up for Reflexes 3. Commerce isn't something we need right now and is easy to acquire, and we're not exactly lacking on the other skills that are being bought by everyone else. If we don't save now, I don't think we'll get Reflexes 3 before the tournament.
 
I'm with @Sirrocco on Attributes, really; though just speaking personally here, I would absolutely love to see Naoto end up on Fire 4 as it works very well with Crab Hands, and, yes, various Perform skills. It's quite nice a thought even if it's not likely :D
 
I'm with @Sirrocco on Attributes, really; though just speaking personally here, I would absolutely love to see Naoto end up on Fire 4 as it works very well with Crab Hands, and, yes, various Perform skills. It's quite nice a thought even if it's not likely :D
If you are, can I convince you to save the XP instead so we can get Reflexes 3 sooner rather than later?
 
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Single point skills might not be all that expensive individually, but they do add up if we try to get all of them. If we can drop 2-3 of them, it'd almost cover the difference between getting Agility 4 and getting Intelligence 5. Something we should keep in mind.
Plus, I'm not really that sure that doing mediocre/badly in a lot of events will do us much good compared to doing well in a few.

If you are, can I convince you to save the XP instead so we can get Reflexes 3 sooner rather than alter?
Keep in mind that we might not get a chance to earn more XP before the tournament, depending on how Maugen Ra is going to handle the downtime between the big events. It's rather doubtful we'll be playing through each day individually, for example, since I think he had intentions to take the game beyond this court.
 
My vote has us not spending any points right now so we can save up for Reflexes 3. Commerce isn't something we need right now and is easy to acquire, and we're not exactly lacking on the other skills that are being bought by everyone else. If we don't save now, I don't think we'll get Reflexes 3 before the tournament.
Sincerity and Etiquette are our social defense skills. Reflexes for the tournament would be nice... but it's a luxury. Sincerity and Etiquette are necessities. Commerce... is pretty darn cheap, and handy for understanding some of what's going on, as well as keeping us out of trouble if and when we talk with the Yasuki.

I suppose I could be convinced on Commerce, but Etiquette and Sincerity really are important, in a way that Reflexes (here, for us) is not.
 
Sincerity and Etiquette are our social defense skills. Reflexes for the tournament would be nice... but it's a luxury. Sincerity and Etiquette are necessities. Commerce... is pretty darn cheap, and handy for understanding some of what's going on, as well as keeping us out of trouble if and when we talk with the Yasuki.

I suppose I could be convinced on Commerce, but Etiquette and Sincerity really are important, in a way that Reflexes (here, for us) is not.
I understand that they are important for us, but we've done fine so far with them at this rank. It's a given that we need to upgrade them, but I don't think two days without boosting them will screw us over, whereas giving a decent showing in the tournament will only help our cause with the Lion.

Besides, we are a Bushi. Combat may not be our primary role, but we need to at least be competent at it.
 
Single point skills might not be all that expensive individually, but they do add up if we try to get all of them. If we can drop 2-3 of them, it'd almost cover the difference between getting Agility 4 and getting Intelligence 5. Something we should keep in mind.
Plus, I'm not really that sure that doing mediocre/badly in a lot of events will do us much good compared to doing well in a few.

Actually, this is a decent point. @Maugan Ra - I have an Etiquette check for you, if I could. In a court like this, are peole encouraged to sign up for basically everything, or to keep themselves to areas of specialty? If there was someone who signed up for every event, and did a fair job but not all that impressive (at least in most of them), how would that be seen?

I understand that they are important for us, but we've done fine so far with them at this rank. It's a given that we need to upgrade them, but I don't think two days without boosting them will screw us over, whereas giving a decent showing in the tournament will only help our cause with the Lion.

Besides, we are a Bushi. Combat may not be our primary role, but we need to at least be competent at it.

We are competent at it, and we're planning to become more so. If getting reflexes was enough to push us from "losing the first round" to "placing fairly well", I'd agree with you on relative importance, but it isn't, necessarily. It's entirely possible that we'd *still* lose the first round... and it's pretty likely that we'll be making at least a couple of important Sincerity and/or Etiquette checks in the meantime, given that we've been identified by basically everyone in the place as "the sane Scorpion".
 
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Keep in mind that we might not get a chance to earn more XP before the tournament, depending on how Maugen Ra is going to handle the downtime between the big events. It's rather doubtful we'll be playing through each day individually, for example, since I think he had intentions to take the game beyond this court.
I find this unlikely, to be honest. We're intending to play Go with Chen after all, and I can't see that being time-skipped due to us actin as points of contact between the Crane and Scorpion. I also suspect that we'll meet with Mariko in that timeframe.
We are competent at it, and we're planning to become more so. If getting reflexes was enough to push us from "losing the first round" to "placing fairly well", I'd agree with you on relative importance, but it isn't, necessarily. It's entirely possible that we'd *still* lose the first round... and it's pretty likely that we'll be making at least a couple of important Sincerity and/or Etiquette checks in the meantime, given that we've been identified by basically everyone in the place as "the sane Scorpion".
Reflexes 3 means our Armor TN will be at 20 as opposed to 15, and it stacks with the Way of the Scorpion for Initiative. It's not an insignificant increase in combat ability.

Giving a decent showing will also help the image Kimiko is trying to project towards the Lion.
 
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I find this unlikely, to be honest. We're intending to play Go with Chen after all, and I can't see that being time-skipped due to us actin as points of contact between the Crane and Scorpion. I also suspect that we'll meet with Mariko in that timeframe.
Indeed. I think it far more likely that it won't be an issue because we actually will be able to build up the exp than that it won't be because we'd have gone too fast even without the initial investment. In any case, we'll see.

Also, I'm pretty sure that "end of game" here really is intended to be "end of Winter Court". Once Winter Court ends, I suppose that there *might* be a follow-on quest, but the arc is pretty clear, and pretty well-terminated.
 
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I don't think we have to participate in all the events, but we must do a good showing in those we do participate, as a bad performance will reflect bad in our clan.

Niw I am convinced of the necessity of the first event, but we shouldn't participate, for example, in the stealth based one.

First because we are not build to it, second because if we do make a good show we will be marked... Better to let the other scorpions do their part.

Also, if we only wach some of the events, this means that we will have a better opportunity to get to know the samurais that are not participating .

We have to do the canyon race, we must do an art based one in addition to the one based in calligraphy and the go one... but more than that? I am not so sure...
 
I agree that we'll probably not jump over the Go-game with Chen, or possibly meeting some additional characters; I'm just not sold on the idea that we're guaranteed to earn another 6+ XP in that time.

Also, based on the OP, I have the impression that the Winter Court here is only meant to be one part of the game;
The first arc will involve your character being sent as part of a senior courtier's retinue to an important court being held in a neighboring land.
To me it implies that there'll be more parts to follow.
 
And in a random note: Marriage: Are we an available asset for it, at least in the sense of proposing a prospective match we might have found for our family to handle the rest if they so desire and approve? Unlikely to make much difference in the short term, that is, for this specific court, but marriages are an old and time honored way of handling politics and improving relations.

You're a young, intelligent and well educated Bushi with court experience and no major downsides. In marriage terms you're not massively valuable, but you would be a fairly solid pick. That perception would probably change over the course of the Winter Court if you do well enough.

Bayushi Kimoko is deeply unlikely to actually agree to a marriage contract involving you, since the Scorpion take that sort of thing very seriously and she's not your relative, but forming ideas in that direction and taking it back with you to your family would be fairly reasonable.

We'd need to be far worse than we currently are to make said potential embarrassment be worse than the (certain) embarrassment of not participating. We don't need to win. We don't even need to make a particularly good showing. We just need to avoid demonstrating absolute incompetency, aka, make a complete fumble through rolling all 1s or something of the kind. Not only we are young enough that inexperience can explain a lot, not being a great fighter is not particularly shameful. Furthermore, we already have our boss here to show that the Scorpion can be phenomenal fighters, we can reassure them that she's the exception and most of us are pretty mediocre compared to the Lion, aka, back to the comfort zone for our hosts.

This is fairly accurate. Obviously performing well in the tournament would be great, but there is just as much honour and glory in losing to a superior opponent and then graciously acknowledging their skill. Your conduct in the tournament will lead to all manner of knock-on effects further down the line.

Fun fact - Matsu Ketsui met her first husband in a Jiujutsu duel - by which I mean they punched each other until he passed out. She was sufficiently impressed by his fortitude and willpower that she accepted a marriage proposal.

This might be a good opportunity if we wish to engage in an affair with a woman from one of the other delegations. Unfortunately, our artistic/storytelling abilities are nonexistent at this time. Would be a good opportunity to buy some Calligraphy/Poetry before this if we want to get some points with someone.

Courtly romances are an accepted and even encouraged occurance. My current notes include three possible options, so if you want to pursue that angle it's a perfectly valid choice.

Okay, I have to say I like this event. I just sounds amusing and awesome. Should probably get a point in Poetry just so we don't embarrass ourselves too badly, though.
This might also provide an opportunity to embarrass someone from another delegation, though; goading them into saying something stupid/insulting, spiking their drink or food so they'll get drunk much more quickly and make a fool of themselves, things like that. On the flipside, we might want to look into some herbs or the like we could use to fortify our constitution so we can take our drink better, or something like that. Both so we can better avoid issues that might come from our drunkenness, and potentially impress the Lion and possibly other martial clans through our staying power.

The Winding River Banquet is a favourite setting element of mine, yes. To clarify, after you've taken a drink and recited a poem (which could be composed on the spot or memorized in advance) you can either put your cup back in the river in order to continue, or keep it in your lap to signify that you are withdrawing. There is no shame in backing out after one, but the longer you keep going the more impressive it is.

We'll probably want to enter this competition as well. We won't get far, but thanks to Crab hands we shouldn't embarrass ourselves, and it might further garner some points with our Lion hosts. The Tsuruchi is obviously going to dominate this one, though, but that also makes this a potential opportunity to embarass him, and by extension his Mantis charge; subtly messing with the balance of his bow and arrows so he only provides a mediocre showing despite the Wasp Clan's reputation could cost him and by extension the Mantis some face at this court.

The Tsuruchi is a woman - Tsuruchi Miyako to be precise. That said, messing with her equipment would be a perfectly valid course of action... and one quite likely to lead to a duel or an unfortunate accident if you are caught, but that's always a risk.

What are the general current clan relations in the current time, other than the general stereotypes that is. That is, which clans are going to be more suspicious than normal about us, which clans are already pissed off at us, which clans might be more sympathetic to us, and so forth? Having some idea of possible secondary objectives would probably be a good idea to handle what we'd do other than randomly stumble around trying to bring metaphorical profit to our clan.

The Scorpion are in a reasonably neutral position in terms of Clan diplomatic relations. The Scorpion Coup is serious black mark for everybody except the Crab (who were actually considering supporting you) and the Mantis (who basically admire the massive balls it took to even try). But you didn't have much involvement in the Clan Wars proper and showed up in full force for the Second Day of Thunder, so most people are willing to look past that. Toturi publicly absolving your Clan of any wrongdoing (on account of it being obvious what you were trying to prevent) helped a lot.

That said, though, we should probably discuss with Hanzo, and possibly Kimiko, where their talents in regards to the various events lie. If either of them is a good storyteller or dancer, for example, it means they can represent us in the corresponding event, and we can invest the XP we'd have spent on those skills into raising skills for other events, or our courtier-related skills in general.

I'm going to assume you ask them off-screen so I can easily summarize things

Kimoko's whole schtick is that she is a terrifyingly dangerous frontline combatant. She's got weapon skills, Battle and a few associated abilities at a high level. That said she only has a few court related skills and they're not at fantastically high levels - she won't embarrass herself, but in a court held anywhere but Shiro Matsu she'd be a terrible choice of ambassador.

Hanzo is a Shugenja, and as such is quite knowledgeable in a number of different fields such as theology and natural science. In mechanical terms he's got pretty good and well balanced Rings more than high skills - the Yogo have an affinity for all Ward spells rather than for a particular element, so he's become pretty well rounded there. He'll do reasonably well at just about anything, but probably won't shine - except perhaps in the endurance race, which he reckons he'd be pretty good at.

Incidentally, iirc Archery uses Reflexes.

Yup. Rokugani archers don't actually aim per se - rather they've trained themselves to shoot without thinking about it, drawing and firing in a single smooth motion that can be repeated over and over again.
 
Yup. Rokugani archers don't actually aim per se - rather they've trained themselves to shoot without thinking about it, drawing and firing in a single smooth motion that can be repeated over and over again.
Ah, Kyujutsu. I actually read up on it for a bit for something I wrote. It is...rather interesting.
 
I do think one advantage of our build is that we can do a passable impression of a Man for All Seasons (while not really being one), but I am curious as to the answer to Sirroco's question.
 
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Actually, this is a decent point. @Maugan Ra - I have an Etiquette check for you, if I could. In a court like this, are people encouraged to sign up for basically everything, or to keep themselves to areas of specialty? If there was someone who signed up for every event, and did a fair job but not all that impressive (at least in most of them), how would that be seen?

Hmm. Thinking about this stuff at length is grounds for an Etiquette/Intelligence check, so 6k4 = 29

No one expects one samurai to be highly skilled or even competent at everything. There are certain core areas where any true samurai is expected to be able to handle themselves, but beyond that no one would blame you for sticking to what you're good at.

Signing up for everything is essentially the 'double or nothing' route. If you can pull it off, it will be very impressive. If you try for something and fail, though, you'll give the impression of being arrogant and reaching beyond your means, which would magnify the penalties associated with failure.

On timeskips

Winter Court is going to cover four months. I am absolutely not going to cover that day by day. There will be periods of downtime where you can plot out what you're working on in general terms, but those are likely to be represented as a quick dice roll and a narration of your progress from me.

I have a fairly solid plan for this arc with a lot of adaptability depending on what you choose to do and how well you do it. I don't have plans for the arcs after this, beyond a few thoughts, because where you go from here is highly variable. For example, impressing Otomo Kairyu could get you a prestigious posting in the Imperial City. Solving a crime (that might or might not happen depending on your choices) could get you appointed as a Magistrate, maybe even an Emerald one. And so on and so forth.
 
Hmm. Thinking about this stuff at length is grounds for an Etiquette/Intelligence check, so 6k4 = 29

No one expects one samurai to be highly skilled or even competent at everything. There are certain core areas where any true samurai is expected to be able to handle themselves, but beyond that no one would blame you for sticking to what you're good at.

Signing up for everything is essentially the 'double or nothing' route. If you can pull it off, it will be very impressive. If you try for something and fail, though, you'll give the impression of being arrogant and reaching beyond your means, which would magnify the penalties associated with failure.

On timeskips

Winter Court is going to cover four months. I am absolutely not going to cover that day by day. There will be periods of downtime where you can plot out what you're working on in general terms, but those are likely to be represented as a quick dice roll and a narration of your progress from me.

I have a fairly solid plan for this arc with a lot of adaptability depending on what you choose to do and how well you do it. I don't have plans for the arcs after this, beyond a few thoughts, because where you go from here is highly variable. For example, impressing Otomo Kairyu could get you a prestigious posting in the Imperial City. Solving a crime (that might or might not happen depending on your choices) could get you appointed as a Magistrate, maybe even an Emerald one. And so on and so forth.

Personally, yeah, impressing Otomo Kairyu could be great. I still want to play (lose) that Go game with the Emperor sometime, after all!
 
Courtly romances are an accepted and even encouraged occurance. My current notes include three possible options, so if you want to pursue that angle it's a perfectly valid choice.
Have to admit I'm curious to see who they are. I would normally guess for Tani to be one, but I could just as easily (if not more so) see her as just a platonic friend for our character, with the two of them constantly getting into involved discussions and debates about a broad range of topics, so much that romance doesn't even enter into their minds because they're too busy just enjoying the intellectual exchange.

The Winding River Banquet is a favourite setting element of mine, yes. To clarify, after you've taken a drink and recited a poem (which could be composed on the spot or memorized in advance) you can either put your cup back in the river in order to continue, or keep it in your lap to signify that you are withdrawing. There is no shame in backing out after one, but the longer you keep going the more impressive it is.
Hm... seems like a fairly good opportunity for us to try and impress a little, here. Definitely want to get a point or two in Poetry for this.

The Tsuruchi is a woman - Tsuruchi Miyako to be precise. That said, messing with her equipment would be a perfectly valid course of action... and one quite likely to lead to a duel or an unfortunate accident if you are caught, but that's always a risk.
Getting into trouble if we're caught is kind of a given, yeah. That reminds me, though; are there any amongst Pale Oak's people who are skilled in performing more "discrete" errands or tasks? Or are we limited to our own abilities in such matters?

I'm going to assume you ask them off-screen so I can easily summarize things
That makes things a little easier, yes. Thanks.

Kimoko's whole schtick is that she is a terrifyingly dangerous frontline combatant. She's got weapon skills, Battle and a few associated abilities at a high level. That said she only has a few court related skills and they're not at fantastically high levels - she won't embarrass herself, but in a court held anywhere but Shiro Matsu she'd be a terrible choice of ambassador.
Hm, so she'll probably do well in the Display of Steel, Bowman's Wager, Hachiman's Tournament and Koshin's Race. Assuming she participates in all of them, which is probably fairly likely, since they all involve displays of martial ability of one type or another. Though, Bowman's Wager is a bit iffy; it could be that she forewent archery training to better focus on her sword skills, for example.
We probably shouldn't count on her for the art-related events, though, like the storytelling contest or the dancing or calligraphy contests.

Hanzo is a Shugenja, and as such is quite knowledgeable in a number of different fields such as theology and natural science. In mechanical terms he's got pretty good and well balanced Rings more than high skills - the Yogo have an affinity for all Ward spells rather than for a particular element, so he's become pretty well rounded there. He'll do reasonably well at just about anything, but probably won't shine - except perhaps in the endurance race, which he reckons he'd be pretty good at.
Hm... so the race is definitely covered. And we could probably leave a few of the other events to him as well, and get a decent if not particularly exciting showing.

Based on what Maugen Ra said above, I think we'll want to focus on Calligraphy, Poetry, and Go; make sure that we can do a good showing at those events where we can bring them to bear.

Though, that also reminds me; is there anything such as skill synergy, or skills supporting each other, in the L5R system?
For example, let's say that we want to participate in the storytelling contest, but we haven't found the time/opportunity to invest all that much into the skill, so we only have it at 1. Could we go and, for example, use some Lore-skills in order to recall some bits of obscure but interesting information to spice up our story with and compensate for our lack of technical skill? Or use some other Lore-skill(s) to recall poems that we can use during the Winding River Banquet?
That sort of thing?
 
Okay. Update on "what competitions to sign up for" is useful and interesting and changes my strategy pretty thoroughly. Given all that....
- By all means, let's skip trudging through the snow and sneaking through the darkness. Those sound like a whole lot of not fun even without the chance of being blamed for things, and we're not even a scout. As such, no real need for stealth or athletics. Naoto is already feeling better.
- We will want a bit of poetry. Pretty much everyone's expected to be involved with the Winding River Banquet.
- Similarly, we will want Calligraphy. The Moon's Wrath is not the sort of thing you can just opt out of. We may or may not want to be involved in 18th Day of the Ox - that'll depend on how good we think we are at that point.
- We may still want to invest a point in storytelling at the appropriate time. Jurojin's blessings applies to every samurai in the place.
- We probably won't want to try to bring art for the Festival of the River of Stars. We probably will want to wander around and flirt some... and probably find out who's single first.
- We'll skip the Bowman's Wager. If the Scorpion bow out of that one entirely? Well, that just means that we don't have to ante anything. Given that it's presented as a wager rather than a contest, I don't think that anyone will fault us for acknowledging a Wasp as our superior in the arts of the bow.
- We absolutely want to do well at Hachiman's Tournament. This is going to involve buffing our Go and Battle skills at least a bit, and, if at all possible, bumping intelligence up to 5. Still, it's over a month and a half out. We have time.

Given all of that, as fast as I can see, the schedule looks something like this...
- Immediate-term: pretty sure our current expenditures cover our social defensive needs reasonably well. Start saving up. If we can pick up a point of Reflexes or Agility prior to the Display of Steel, try to do so. Otherwise, be ready to pour whatever we've saved into other things (starting with Sincerity 3, probably Investigation as well).
- If we decide that we wish to try to woo someone for the Festival of the River of Stars, pick up appropriate skills to do so. We'll want at least some poetry less than a week later, so maybe invest in some of that. Start saving for Int 5.
- After that, there's nothing on the calendar that we want to invest for for almost a month - until Moon's Wrath. At that point, we'll want to be at least proficient in calligraphy. If we're *going* to invest in forgery, it should be by this time as well.
- A couple of weeks later is Hachiman's Tournament. That's the point where we'd really like to have int 5, go, and Battle built up.
- A week and a half later is Jurojin's Blessings - buy a point of Storytelling (if we can afford it) to make sure we don't embarrass ourselves. If exp is dear? Just blow a void point and hope it comes out okay.
- A couple of weeks after that is the calligraphy contest. By that point, we may well have a pretty solid score in calligraphy, what with one thing and another. If we do, we enter.
- three weeks later is the festival of dance. If we've bumped agility during this point, we should probably push a few points into dance and see how we do. If we haven't, we still ought to give ourselves a point to make sure that we don't embarrass ourselves on the dance floor.

Now, that's not complete, by any means. Various events are going to not so much change our priorities as give us new ones on top of the ones we have. If we start spending time at the Go table with Otomo-sama, then increasing our skill there starts being something we'd like to do sooner rather than later. If some sort of a murder mystery crops up, then we'd be wanting to pick up a point of perception - something we might want to do anyway. It's entirely possible that there will be call for people to go out and slaughter bandits or something, in which case (assuming we want to curry favor with the Matsu) we might find that bushi skills are more valuable... and so on. If nothing else, if we wind up wanting to woo someone, then who they are, and what they value will change our build priorities significantly.

Oh, and a bit of reassurance - for anyone who worries that we might suffer socially in some circles for signing up for the kenjutsu contest and then not doing all that well? We have the perfect excuse. "You do not want to know what Bayushi-sama would have done to me if I had not at least signed up. She says that flesh wounds are good for the soul and has been known to chide me for my lack of scars. It was easier this way." We can sell it even better by heading directly over to sign up right after she finishes talking with us, perhaps with an appropriately deep "I have heard and will comply, my Lord" bow.
 
@Sirrocco my only discordance is about the Archery tournament, because, as I see, it is a very good oportunity to try and give a present for the one that will win.

If we manage to lose and make sure to know who will win, we may use it to offer some specific bribe.

Not only that but if the scorpions have no one participating, it wouldn't be seen as ok, as the Crane will participate and they have much less wealth than our clan... they couldn't even bring a present.
 
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I was thinking we would try the archery, since Crab Hands means we're the use all the weapons guy. No expectations of winning, but hey the kenjutsu tournament virtually guarantees getting stabbed a few of times, by comparison Bowman's Wager should be practically relaxing. Unless there is limited participation per clan, in which case Kimoko is better suited.

Otherwise I agree with your analysis.
 
I was thinking we would try the archery, since Crab Hands means we're the use all the weapons guy. No expectations of winning, but hey the kenjutsu tournament virtually guarantees getting stabbed a few of times, by comparison Bowman's Wager should be practically relaxing. Unless there is limited participation per clan, in which case Kimoko is better suited.

Otherwise I agree with your analysis.
Our Reflexes is at 2. We would rill 3k2. Unless we up Reflexes to 4/3 with Kyujutsu 3 I don't think that's a good idea

We wouldn't even give a decent showing.
 
@Sirrocco my only discordance is about the Archery tournament, because, as I see, it is a very good oportunity to try and give a present for the one that will win.

If we manage to lose and make sure to know who will win, we may use it to offer some specific bribe.

Not only that but if the scorpions have no one participating, it wouldn't be seen as ok, as the Crane will participate and they have much less wealth than our clan... they couldn't even bring a present.
How do you know the Crane will participate? Consider.
- It's not being presented as a contest. It's being presented as a Wager.
- It explicitly says that it's "all samurai who wish to compete" and that the prize is "from every participating Clan". There's an implication here that there will be clans that don't.

Similarly, I'm not convinced that "it wouldn't be seen as ok".

Basically, it's not being sold all that hard. We're pretty terrible at archery right now, and it would take effort to get us up to anything worth entering in anything. If anyone gives us grief about not wanting to lose the wager we can be generous, and humble, and vicious. "Oh, no. I simply would not wish to waste the time of the spectators with my own mediocre contribution. Still, I understand that the recent wars have left many in dire straits. If the potential winnings from this wager are so critical to you and your clan, then we of the Scorpion can certainly manage to provide a little something to the winner as a gift."

Still, this sort of question is what Etiquette is for.

@Maugan Ra - Given that there are only three Scorpion here, would it be seen as inappropriate or shameful for the entire delegation to bow out of the Bowman's Wager? Would any of the groups here particularly think less of us?
We wouldn't enter to win, but to give a bribe to someone in a way it isn't a bribe.
Opportunities to give gifts are not so hard to come by as you seem to think.
 
How do you know the Crane will participate? Consider.
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it is a very good oportunity for then to shame the Lions again, without any proper repercussions . .. they didn't bring a gift, but wage a very expensive prize.

More so if they do a lack luster show, giving the idea that they didn't even tried to win.

And my idea was of a way to pass a bribe to some clan, without making it be a bribe.

After all, it was the result of a wager, not the results of some deal
 
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Still, this sort of question is what Etiquette is for.

@Maugan Ra - Given that there are only three Scorpion here, would it be seen as inappropriate or shameful for the entire delegation to bow out of the Bowman's Wager? Would any of the groups here particularly think less of us?

Opportunities to give gifts are not so hard to come by as you seem to think.

The Tsuruchi might sneer at you, but they maintain an almost fetishistic love for their bows.

Overall? No, when you only have two Bushi present, there's no particular shame in admitting that neither of them is particularly good at archery. Or to be more precise, both of them can shoot a bow, but neither feels their skill is at competition level.

Rokugani stereotypes are actually playing in your favour here. Archery is considered a useful tool and a valuable combat skill, but it's perceived as a bonus rather than a requirement. Battles are won by samurai with swords, with the archers playing a strictly supporting role.
 
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