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HomuHomu's Bizarre Adventure: The World's End [PMMM/JJBA/Nasuverse/Dead]

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Neo-Chan said:
Were a fucking Executor we specialize in killing things like Zouken. besides there's a major problem in that assumption if this Zouken is anything at ll like canon Zouken then there is no way in hell he's anywhere near as hard to kill as Zouken is. In all actuality he probably has more in common with a more skilled version of Kariya Matou.
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We have watched Look and Devilijo pull an even more bullshit broken Sasaki Kojiro out of nowhere. Seriously, they gave her something like Eye of the Mind A++, and Kojiro was already one of the most broken characters in the Nasuverse. And making Homura apparently about as skilled a Kirei, at age 14.

Yeah, I am not putting it past them to make Shinji actually pretty good, or for Zouken respawn Shinji if he gets killed. It's a hell of a lot more plausible than some of the things we've seen so far....

Either way i maintain that leaving him alive with time to counter attack is extremely stupid. If your really worried Zouken had a change of heart and gave Shinji access to all the good stuff then we can just cut his arm off immediately after snapping his neck. After all even if he survives getting his neck snapped for some bullshit reason the shock of it happening should distract him more then long enough to have the world rip his arm off, the world is fast as hell.
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Command Seals can be used instantly. You don't even need to speak in fact, just the intent is enough IIRC.

I stand by targetting the Command Seals first. Want to kill him afterwards, go ahead, I don't give a shit whether it traumatizes Madoka or what, but the Command Seals are the most important thing on Shinji's person.
 
Maybe this is Zouken possessing/controlling/etc Shinji's body. The personality doesn't really fit, but I think it's a possibility.
 
Also, while I'm not expecting Shinji to pull Zouken's body becomes worms trick (although I wouldn't be surprised) my biggest concern is making sure he has no chance to fire off the Command Seals.


One more thing, people haven't seemed to notice though?

Since this is the Eighth Holy Grail, then if Zouken has been around since the First and the Holy Grail Wars happen on roughly the same timetable as canon, then Zouken oughta be dead by now. His soul probably wouldn't have even lasted to the Sixth war, if I remember right. Eighth? No way.

So it'd pretty much be either pass along the secrets of his family, or take it to the grave.

Monotov said:
Yup. And you are only a master so long as you have at least 1 command seal. The instant he loses the hand he is in bad shape, mostly because everyone wants him dead, and he is unlikely to stop a servant, an executor, and The World.
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Yup.

To be my own devil's advocate, if Shinji were still connected to his hand somehow he might be able to use them, but...well, we can't know everything, and I'd rather lead with taking away those damn Command Seals.

Those are pretty much a trio (duo for Shinji now) of reality-breaking spells.
 
[x] Use portals
-[x] Tear off Indigo's arm, the one with the command seals. And then tear off his head.
 
[x] Use portals
-[x] Tear off Indigo's
arm, the one with the
command seals. And
then tear off his head.

Normaly it would be a bad idea, but if this guy is fighting outside the war, fighting non masters and generaly causing chaos, he deserves it.

Also killing the STUPID MASTER is the only way to win this.

Plus yoy know portals, portals are cool.
 
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[x] Use portals
-[x] Tear off Indigo's arm, the one with the command seals. And then tear off his head.
 
Neo-Chan said:
What i meant is if Zouken is like he is in canon then theirs no way in hell Shinji is as hard to kill as Zouken is. He should be fairly squishy unless Zouken has experienced a major personality change.
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HymnOfRagnarok said:
We have watched Look and Devilijo pull an even more bullshit broken Sasaki Kojiro out of nowhere. Seriously, they gave her something like Eye of the Mind A++, and Kojiro was already one of the most broken characters in the Nasuverse. And making Homura apparently about as skilled a Kirei, at age 14.

Yeah, I am not putting it past them to make Shinji actually pretty good, or for Zouken respawn Shinji if he gets killed. It's a hell of a lot more plausible than some of the things we've seen so far....



Command Seals can be used instantly. You don't even need to speak in fact, just the intent is enough IIRC.

I stand by targetting the Command Seals first. Want to kill him afterwards, go ahead, I don't give a shit whether it traumatizes Madoka or what, but the Command Seals are the most important thing on Shinji's person.
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Hey guys I'm new to this quest but I have a solution that should satisfy both of you. We can just rip both of his arms off at the same time if we do that he should enter shock almost immediately if it's done quickly and violently enough. He should then proceed to die within the next 30 seconds do to blood loss. And even if he doesn't die the shock should be more then enough to let us smash his head like a pumpkin.

Even if he doesn't enter shock or die immidetly do to the shock of having 2 limbs ripped off no one not even a magus can react quickly after having their arms ripped off. If The World really is as fast as a servent with A++ agility then he should be dead before he even realzes what happened.

Or even better we can have the world rip his limbs off while we use our new robot arm to shoot a nail in the back of his head all at the same time

[X] Use Portals
-[X] Have The World tear off both of his arms.
--[X] Simltaneously while The World is ripping his arms off use your Robot arm to shoot him in the back of the head with the Nail gun.
---[X] Have The World smash his head afterwards for good measure.

There is no kill like over kill.
 
Ixe said:
Hey guys I'm new to this quest but I have a solution that should satisfy both of you. We can just rip both of his arms off at the same time if we do that he should enter shock almost immediately if it's done quickly and violently enough. He should then proceed to die within the next 30 seconds do to blood loss. And even if he doesn't die the shock should be more then enough to let us smash his head like a pumpkin.
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No. I only want his arm ripped off to keep him from using his Command Seals, I don't care about the other arm. Moreover to rip off one arm properly The World will likely use one arm to hold Shinji in place, and the other arm to rip off the limb.

If we strike again, just rip his head off as that other vote suggests. I don't him to die slow, I just want him to lose his Servant and if we want him to die, do it quick.
 
As a semi side not, I love how we can have a serious discussion about how we want to rip someone apart. Not even whether we should, just how.
I love this site.
 
HymnOfRagnarok said:
No. I only want his arm ripped off to keep him from using his Command Seals, I don't care about the other arm. Moreover to rip off one arm properly The World will likely use one arm to hold Shinji in place, and the other arm to rip off the limb.

If we strike again, just rip his head off as that other vote suggests. I don't him to die slow, I just want him to lose his Servant and if we want him to die, do it quick.
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Theres no need to hold him in place the world has A+++ strength if he grabs Shinji by both his arms and pulls his arms away from each other he's liabel to just rip his entire body apart thus killing him and removing the Command spells all at the same time. To be honest the rest is for just in case he's harder to kill them I think he wil be.
 
Fuck it, Ixe's plan makes way to much sense and he is right that thanks to A+++ ranked strength,if we have the world pull both of Shinji's arms to two different directions he's going to get his entire body ripped in half immediately.

Changing Vote:
[X] Use Portals
-[X] Have The World tear off both of his arms.
--[X] Simltaneously while The World is ripping his arms off use your Robot arm to shoot him in the back of the head with the Nail gun.
---[X] Have The World smash his head afterwards for good measure.
 
Finally the connection is back.

Ixe said:
Theres no need to hold him in place the world has A+++ strength if he grabs Shinji by both his arms and pulls his arms away from each other he's liabel to just rip his entire body apart thus killing him and removing the Command spells all at the same time. To be honest the rest is for just in case he's harder to kill them I think he wil be.
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Don't care. I see no reason to make a gigantic mess and bloodbath in the hospital, even if it did work. And I care most about getting the one arm off, and away from him. Whether we kill him after that I'm indifferent.

Also, because once again the Servant is the most important part and I don't want to get ganked somehow while we waste time on Shinji. Just in case Jack does have a reason to defend her Master.

Though if your plan does win I look forward to Madoka's reaction.
 
HymnOfRagnarok said:
Finally the connection is back.



Don't care. I see no reason to make a gigantic mess and bloodbath in the hospital, even if it did work. And I care most about getting the one arm off, and away from him. Whether we kill him after that I'm indifferent.

Also, because once again the Servant is the most important part and I don't want to get ganked somehow while we waste time on Shinji. Just in case Jack does have a reason to defend her Master.

Though if your plan does win I look forward to Madoka's reaction.
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Oh well to each his own. Although I'm preaty sure that ripping both his arms of with the world would be just as quick as ripping one arm off A+++ strength is convenient like that.:D
 
Ixe said:
Oh well to each his own. Although I'm preaty sure that ripping both his arms of with the world would be just as quick as ripping one arm off A+++ strength is convenient like that.:D
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Honestly I just find your vote gratuitous at this point. I only care about ripping off the arm, and then seeing where everything stands. Though admittedly leaving Homura immediate actions in the GM's hands has backfired before.

People wanting to kill Shinji afterwards, fine. I'm even fine with putting the nail in his head as the World acts, assuming that there's actually enough space in the portal to do that. That is not certain seeing how narrow those are.
 
HymnOfRagnarok said:
Honestly I just find your vote gratuitous at this point. I only care about ripping off the arm, and then seeing where everything stands. Though admittedly leaving Homura immediate actions in the GM's hands has backfired before.

People wanting to kill Shinji afterwards, fine. I'm even fine with putting the nail in his head as the World acts, assuming that there's actually enough space in the portal to do that. That is not certain seeing how narrow those are.
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portals are two meter by one meter ovals.
 
HymnOfRagnarok said:
Ah, a lot bigger than the games then.

...Heh, though perhaps still not wide enough to admit The World without it going in sideways. Dem shoulders..
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...Eh, not really?

Chell's a little over 1.6 meters tall, and she can walk through them comfortably. Two meters by one meter sounds entirely valid.

No comment on The World's shoulders.
 
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