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Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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    Shennong 6: Prospecting Man
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    • Shennong Omake: Prospecting Man

    "It's at times like this that I'm glad I stayed in alchemy..."

    Shennong had been hard at work for the past half year in the infamously dangerous Turtlebone Mountain mine, looking for the jaw-droopingly rare Turtle Ore. His official Mission had required him to get only a fistful's worth of ore, and while insulted at first, when he arrived he was rather glad that was all they asked for. Nascent Beasts swarmed this powerful nexus of energy, making it both incredibly dangerous and attractive at the same time for beast cultivators...assuming they didn't get themselves killed at the first opportunity.

    The main methods of the Golden Devils beast tamers basically amounted to fooling the beast in question to trust before marking them with a seal of subservience. As Shennong had seen a Tamer in question try this exact tactic on one of the many beasts that lived here only to get glared at and vaporized by the beast in question, he didn't think it worked too well. He could say with confidence that having the smell of alchemical plants threw off the scents of the beasts in question, which worked very well when he was running from a Heart-seeking Monitor in the tunnels, with a lucky break allowing a pouch to spill out and obscuring his 'scent'. Unfortunately, the monitor decided the plants smelled nice, plopped it's large body on the ground and went to sleep...without anyway to sneak around it safely.

    "The camp will be expecting me within the next day...I'll need to get back fast." The daunting prospect of being labelled dead and left behind spurred him into action. Instead of going back, he'd need to go forwards to get free. Quietly sneaking his way from the oversized lizard, he went further and further into the tunnels. While his ability to sense his surroundings was still exceptional, that didn't mean he was getting any younger!

    (AN: I wanted to make this longer by finding a piece of Ore, but I kinda lost motivation for it at this point. I think I'll take the idea that I'm not Omakeless and a LST for my bonuses.)
     
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    • Uber_Fail_Dinesh said:
    (AN: I wanted to make this longer by finding a piece of Ore, but I kinda lost motivation for it at this point. I think I'll take the idea that I'm not Omakeless and a LST for my bonuses.)
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    I'd recommend taking a tribulation treasure. After all, Shennong needs to be able to break through before he dies on Turn 15, after all.

    (At the moment, he needs two more tribulation treasures, so if he takes one this turn and one next turn, he can break through at the beginning of Turn 15, just before dying from old age.)

    EDIT: Actually, huh, he has a lifespan boost. Solid. Means he'll survive until Turn 17.

    I'd still recommend taking a tribulation boost, but taking a LST this turn wouldn't literally kill you, so that's viable.

    By the way, if you take a LST, I'd recommend heading to a Secret Realm, since you'd have a total of 2. It looks like Shennong hasn't used all of his SR attempts yet.

    EDIT2:
    Apparently Turn 5 was Shennong's first turn.

    Means even with a lifespan boost, he'll die after Turn 16. Without one, he'd die at the end of Turn 14, which is this turn.

    That's just barely enough to squeeze one LST this turn and a SR, though you'd need to take treasures next turn and the one after that.
     
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    Doing a mission Coordination Center since Alectai isn't available.

    Mission Coordination Turn 14

    Objective potential (OP) is your cultivation+ your impact. For example a Qi Condensation level 7 with 3 impact would have 10 OP. An FB 2 with 6 impact would be FB 4. Aid the clan.
    Aiding the clan doubles your OP for every level I.e. Bravely is x2, Heroically is x4 and Fanatically is x8.

    Single Pillar:
    Borrowing Alectai's interpretation for Single Pillar values:
    Alectai said:
    SP 1: FE 3
    SP 2: FE 6
    SP 3: FE 9
    SP 4: FE 12
    SP 5: Core 1
    Based on "Early SP can fight Late Foundation, Mid SP punches at the Great Circle, and Late SP is invincible within Foundation Establishment". All Single Pillar characters will be treated according to this measure, with their Impact counting at a ratio of 3 per FE level.
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    Good Seed total Objective Potential FB: 574
    Good Seed total Objective Potential Single Pillar: 153
    Good Seed total Objective Potential Qi: 424

    Missions:

    Seek the 7 Ingredients.
    Summary: Aid Elder Kleisthenes by obtaining the ingredients for the Droplet of Rust and Ruin
    FB should be considered to be of High Value. Success here will allow us to covertly gather the ingredients for the droplet. Failure here could mean that we are discovered in attempting to assemble it, harming our diplomatic relationships with the righteous path and rendering it extremely difficult to employ. Disaster could mean not completing the droplet at all, and being discovered attempting it.
    Qi Condensation should be considered of Moderate-High Value. Success will help increase the potency of the droplet. Failure will result in decreased effectiveness.

    Current objective potential:
    FB: 28 (3 +3+22)
    Qi: 61 (12+13+19+17)
    Aid the clan: None at present.

    The Yuan Parasites
    Summary: Infiltrate the Yuan Clan's demonic rebellion and subvert it to our will, gathering information or potentially being able to direct it's actions entirely on a strong success.
    FB Should be considered to be of High Value. The Yuan clan operate one of the two openly available secret realms. On success, we may be able to change the amount of access the Favoured have to this, substantially slowing their overall threat. If our use of Parasites is discovered it will significantly worsen our reputation with the RP and make the Favoured's concerns more accepted at higher levels. In the absolute worst case it could affect our access to the Secret realm itself.
    Qi Condensation should be considered of Low value. Manipulating a few blood path rebels into favourable attacks is significant, but not so key as other areas. Still, a failure here would not be pleasant.

    Current objective potential:
    FB : 55 (14x2 + 18 + 9)
    Qi : 30
    Aid the clan: Aretaphila - Bravely

    The Turtlebone Mountain mine
    Summary: Infiltrate Turtlebone mountain and abscond with the relevant level of Turtlebone ore.
    FB should be considered of high value. This is holding Destasia's attention for multiple turns, and is likely to be a significant boost. Equally importantly, failure could alert the nascent level beasts that guard the mountain. A disaster may provoke a beast tide, requiring nascent intervention to defeat and inviting retaliation on the Golden Devils for being the ones to trigger it.
    Qi Condensation should be considered of Moderate Value. This may save many qi condensation lives in the trials, however while Qi condensations are by far our biggest cultivation group, they are also the swiftest to recover swiftly in a post trial period.

    Current objective potential:
    FB: 44 (2+6+19+17)
    Qi: 49 (14+14+21)
    Aid the clan: None at present.


    Summary: Yes everything at FB is very important. As the Missions post itself said, every one of them could provoke nascent retaliation if not handled correctly. Seeking the 7 ingredients is currently lagging significantly behind even with Wei Feng's huge impact on it. Turtlebone and the Yuan parasites both have similar amounts of impact but Yuan surges ahead thanks to an aid the Clan from Aretaphila.

    That said not too many people have picked missions yet.

    Let me know if you disagree with my assessments of the values of each mission.

    Last updated: 4 March 22.
     
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    Humbaba said:
    Doing a mission Coordination Center since Alectai isn't available.

    Mission Coordination Turn 14

    Objective potential (OP) is your cultivation+ your impact. For example a Qi Condensation level 7 with 3 impact would have 10 OP. An FB 2 with 6 impact would be FB 4. Aid the clan.
    Aiding the clan doubles your OP for every level I.e. Bravely is x2, Heroically is x4 and Fanatically is x8.

    Single Pillar:
    Borrowing Alectai's interpretation for Single Pillar values:



    Missions:

    Seek the 7 Ingredients.
    Summary: Aid Elder Kleisthenes by obtaining the ingredients for the Droplet of Rust and Ruin
    FB should be considered to be of High Value. Success here will allow us to covertly gather the ingredients for the droplet. Failure here could mean that we are discovered in attempting to assemble it, harming our diplomatic relationships with the righteous path and rendering it extremely difficult to employ. Disaster could mean not completing the droplet at all, and being discovered attempting it.
    Qi Condensation should be considered of Moderate-High Value. Success will help increase the potency of the droplet. Failure will result in decreased effectiveness.

    Current objective potential:
    FB: 28 (3 +3+22)
    Qi: 61 (12+13+19+17)
    Aid the clan: None at present.

    The Yuan Parasites
    Summary: Infiltrate the Yuan Clan's demonic rebellion and subvert it to our will, gathering information or potentially being able to direct it's actions entirely on a strong success.
    FB Should be considered to be of High Value. The Yuan clan operate one of the two openly available secret realms. On success, we may be able to change the amount of access the Favoured have to this, substantially slowing their overall threat. If our use of Parasites is discovered it will significantly worsen our reputation with the RP and make the Favoured's concerns more accepted at higher levels. In the absolute worst case it could affect our access to the Secret realm itself.
    Qi Condensation should be considered of Low value. Manipulating a few blood path rebels into favourable attacks is significant, but not so key as other areas. Still, a failure here would not be pleasant.

    Current objective potential:
    FB : 55 (14x2 + 18 + 9)
    Qi : 30
    Aid the clan: Aretaphila - Bravely

    The Turtlebone Mountain mine
    Summary: Infiltrate Turtlebone mountain and abscond with the relevant level of Turtlebone ore.
    FB should be considered of high value. This is holding Destasia's attention for multiple turns, and is likely to be a significant boost. Equally importantly, failure could alert the nascent level beasts that guard the mountain. A disaster may provoke a beast tide, requiring nascent intervention to defeat and inviting retaliation on the Golden Devils for being the ones to trigger it.
    Qi Condensation should be considered of Moderate Value. This may save many qi condensation lives in the trials, however while Qi condensations are by far our biggest cultivation group, they are also the swiftest to recover swiftly in a post trial period.

    Current objective potential:
    FB: 44 (2+6+19+17)
    Qi: 49 (14+14+21)
    Aid the clan: None at present.


    Summary: Yes everything at FB is very important. As the Missions post itself said, every one of them could provoke nascent retaliation if not handled correctly. Seeking the 7 ingredients is currently lagging significantly behind even with Wei Feng's huge impact on it. Turtlebone and the Yuan parasites both have similar amounts of impact but Yuan surges ahead thanks to an aid the Clan from Aretaphila.

    That said not too many people have picked missions yet.

    Let me know if you disagree with my assessments of the values of each mission.

    Last updated: 4 March 22.
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    I'm definitely feeling like there is a "How many bodies do you put into it" factor for the Yuan Parasites and Turtlebone, just because you're going to need teams to handle distribution of parasites to sufficient numbers of Blood Path and teams to safely scout the mines and retrieve the ore for Turtlebone in my mind. Much less so for the Seven Ingredients, that feels more like high power but low number approach would work fine.

    E: In terms of comment on value ratings, they seem fine.
     
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