Well, yes, actually. They say that men tend to marry their mothers, and Ritsuka and Rika are siblings, so it makes sense that they respectively summoned people that are like each other.
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Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]
- Thread starter James D. Fawkes
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Well, yes, actually. They say that men tend to marry their mothers, and Ritsuka and Rika are siblings, so it makes sense that they respectively summoned people that are like each other.
- Location
- Colorado
Behold! The Mythril Pebble of Pig Smiting!
On a slightly more serious note, the above wiki quote just says 'a weapon with enough mythical weight' not that it has to be something unique or one-of-a-kind. Taylor's knife could reasonably qualify for C rank with Shakespeare's skill.
Edit: To give a bit more of an example Something like containment foam or Coil's laserguns for tinkertech, or Black Keys on the Nasuverse side of things would probably count as 'mass produced.' Something like Taylor's knife is still basically a handcrafted masterwork from Dragon and Defiant, even if they made a few more and Masamune helped. It also should be noted that it's currently completely unique in this entire world, which probably adds some weight to it.
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Windborne
Devourer of Stories
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- Oregon
True, but I imagine he's going to be a pain in the ass. There's a reason he gets paired with Hans, they're both assholes. Though maybe she'll get along great with him if only to honor her mother's memory. It's kind of a coin toss with Taylor, though I'd weigh the odds being slightly higher that they don't get along great.
Shakespeare has a few other decent advantages: his disengagement pretty much means as long as his master is safe he can escape, his workshop is a writers office and within it he gets materials about the other contenders in a war and their lives which will be pretty useful if they get time to set it in in the field, his np traps a victim in a scene he controls which he uses to throw regrets and personal failings at them which is pretty horrible but also very effective on heroes especially berserkers and when he used it on Jeanne he was able have one of the dolls become Gilles which possibly because he's a heroic spirit himself was able to do more and be out of the scene. That said he will stir up drama for kicks.
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No
No no no nono
Fuck all kinds of duck this tragedy obsessed asshole.
Damn it why couldn't we get Hans!?
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- Philadelphia
So... Arash's clairvoyance isn't potent enough to see this specific outcome right? Because his warning Taylor that she should probably tell people her story sooner rather than later seems pretty pertinent now that the choice has just been taken out of her hands. Well in any case, it's going to be one hell of a show.
Tisaku
Head Chief Thinkomancer
-What happened to them? There was only the one bomb, and while that would have wiped the command staff, there should still be plenty of grunts.-
James D. Fawkes
Court Scribe
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- Avalon (Isle of Mists)
The staff numbers are kinda wonky, but I went with there being 200 original staff, because that's what made sense to me, given Chaldea's apparent size. The sabotage killed all but about 20. There's also no way a single bomb in the Command Room did as much damage to the Rayshift room as it canonically does, so there must have been more.
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- Oregon, USA
On the knife:
Yes, it started out as a 'spare'. However, Taylor has used it to Do Shit, and deeds also play a factor.
Yes, it started out as a 'spare'. However, Taylor has used it to Do Shit, and deeds also play a factor.
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Oh so that's how it works? I wasn't sure if he actually could just directly glean information from being around people, or, on the other end, had to rely on whatever public information the Grail gives out and/or if he's able to like find actual books on them. Still, considering that most of the original Singularities are mobile (I think Babylon is the only real exception?) it seems like he'll probably make his workshop in Chaldeas where the Real Fun begins if it doesn't have a "friendly fire" toggle, which... of course it won't.
Yeah its mentioned in Apocrypha's light novel that said I'm fairly sure it wouldn't trigger the info on the servants in the singularities if the base is in Chaldea and it presumably has other limitations but its hard to say given how in Apocrypha there were other ways of knowing a servants id such as it being pretty obvious vlad had been summoned so it may work like the grails system of filling in more once you have their id confirmed. His workshop shouldn't take that long to setup though because its a small writer's office I've not played fgo myself but from the fics I've read it should be possible to get it set up in London, definitely Babylon, a few maybes like Camelot but a few flat no's like the ocean one.
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- USA
Of yeah, "The Scion Method." I'm sure he'll love Taylor even more when he finds out that not only is she the Main Character, but that they actually share an ultimate move.
Kell of Snow
Verified TinTin enjoyer
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- New York
Out of all the Trolls in the Type—Mooniverse, the only one who can out-troll Angra Mainyu, Gilgamesh, the other Gilgamesh, the other other Gilgamesh, and Merlin, COMBINED, is that there Willy Shakes.
He's a fucking artist at pissing people off, and that's not even taking into account a noble phantasm tailor made to have people relive their lives with cherry picked, incredibly highlighted tragedies.
He's a fucking artist at pissing people off, and that's not even taking into account a noble phantasm tailor made to have people relive their lives with cherry picked, incredibly highlighted tragedies.
Prester Fred
The Mad Procrastinator
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- Timonium, MD
Having just finished the 2021 Christmas Event, I now have to wonder how Taylor's gonna react the first time one of the Chaldean Servants becomes Santa Claus.
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- Oregon, USA
M/S protocols.
This told me a great deal about what the story is NOT but very little about what it IS and how it differs from a canon retread + "oh and Taylor was there too"
So much attention went to managing expectations that the first several paragraphs of your thread do nothing to sell the story
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I can't claim to know the author's intentions, but that's probably because of Worm. Worm has a lot of baggage. In addition, the Foreword to a story isn't always there to sell it; It's often for managing expectations or giving insight into the writing process (from a view other than that of the author). Granted, if the Foreword (which is listed under Informational, as opposed to Threadmarks) turns you off from the story entirely, I apologize for tagging you back to this thread.
Wait, Forewords are supposed to do that? Every Foreword i bothered to read was the author explaining their life story/giving thanks to people.
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Forewords can serve a variety of purposes, but there is a common convention of 'this is what went into this story, why it might have certain themes, and thank you to the people who helped me get it all put together'.
James D. Fawkes did the first and second parts, and if there was someone to thank, I'm fairly certain he would have done the third as well. Forewords don't have to be written by the author, especially in the case that the author is deceased.
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- Oregon, USA
When Taylor introduces M/S protocols:
"Do we really need to have formal protocols for you meeting new people?"
"Do we really need to have formal protocols for you meeting new people?"
Taylor: "Yes. The fact that you didn't already have something like this is appalling. There is an entire Class of Servant dedicated to subterfuge and another Class dedicated to a broad range of disciplines including subversion, and you never established a set of basic rules to follow for them."
Rika: "You know sometimes Taylor gives me mafia vibes and at others it's military. Which is it, Taylor?"
Taylor: "Both. Neither. Something like them, but not them."
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- Oregon, USA
I was making a joke based on the words Master and Stranger having different connotations in the nasuverse than worm.
Bear in mind it's not a matter of servants being dedicated to subterfuge, so much as not all servants are trustworthy in any class. Many servants are copied from legendary heroes of astoundingly poor judgement even by their own times standards, let alone today. Some had severe mental issues that remain even outside the berserker class. Others were outright malicious people who got in to the throne by sheer skill and fame.
Yes, there should heroic spirits who hate humanity enough to actively screw over Chaldea given the chance. Some with good cause. The entire Avenger class is dedicated to the concept. FGO does not do a good job of justifying their being present and not going off on a killing spree at the worst time.
Should some measure of screening process be in place? Yes.
Technically the summoning procedure actually does this, but I wouldn't entirely trust it.
Yes, there should heroic spirits who hate humanity enough to actively screw over Chaldea given the chance. Some with good cause. The entire Avenger class is dedicated to the concept. FGO does not do a good job of justifying their being present and not going off on a killing spree at the worst time.
Should some measure of screening process be in place? Yes.
Technically the summoning procedure actually does this, but I wouldn't entirely trust it.
First, renewable command seals are a thing. Next, the more rational servants police them. Lastly, they would not have answered the summoning if they were not willing to work for saving humanity, or at least work with the Master.
Command seals ensure temporary compliance, not long term servitude. The most correct analogy for their best use is akin to a remote bomb around a servants neck, not a leash. This ignores the versatility of command seals, true. There is also the bigger issue.
If a servant chooses to betray you, there is not a lot you can do, and not a lot other servants can do. The only thing that works is keeping a reliable servant on hand as a bodyguard, which is a waste of a servant. Fortunately, you have Mash, which covers that.
Also, are you really saying that nobody who could have achieved heroic fame could be petty enough to to answer a summons just to screw over chaldea and, by extension, humanity? Really? Classical mythology is filled to the brim with people who are both extremely capable and petty in monstrous ways, many of them the protagonists of the tales.