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Goddamn Teenagers (Worm, AU/time travel)

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dc2008 said:
"And others," the lawyer said wearily. "They have evidence of you traveling with minors across state lines for 'immoral' purposes."
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Max, traveling with Rune and other teenage Nazis to commit acts of supervillainy is probably gonna be considered immoral by most reasonable persons.

And then I kept reading and it got worse.

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Is it 'flee the USA time' for Max Anders? It's difficult to see how he's going to get out of this one...
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The Kaiser has a lovely bunker he can ride this whole thing out in. I'm sure it won't turn out like his idol's situation at all.
 
Impel said:
The Kaiser has a lovely bunker he can ride this whole thing out in. I'm sure it won't turn out like his idol's situation at all.
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Hiding in a bunker wont help. The lack of a statuate of limitations means if he's still in the USA he's gonna have law enforcement on his case. And if he leaves the country, there's the risk of deportation back to the USA to face the charges.
 
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    • "Ugggghh," Amy's sister groaned, drifted blearily into the kitchen, escorted by Chekov.

    Vicky looked like shit, which considering the noises emerging from the bathroom the night before, was reasonable.

    Amy wordlessly passed over her coffee, as Chekov nudged Vicky forward.

    Amy rolled her eyes, and went to get more coffee. That cat got entirely too much enjoyment out of his inability to actually trip Vicky.

    "How you 'wake?" Vicky mumbled, as she settled into a chair.

    Amy shrugged, as she double-loaded grounds into the coffee maker. "Same reason I don't get sick, Power chased out the nano-critter things. I did offer to do you, but you wanted to 'be solidarity'."

    "Don' remind me," Vicky replied in a surly tone. "I feel like I crapped and sweated and peed out everything I ate or drank for the past week."

    "Probably," Amy replied, turning away from the bubbling coffee maker to get out her sister's cereal.

    "Jus' gimme the box," Vicky mumbled. "milk takes too long. Oh, also the pitcher of juice. And the drawer of sandwich stuff. And…"
    Note: Teen appetite at work.
     
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    • Vyrexuviel said:
    Um, did I miss something? What happened to these two? o,o
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    Ace Dreamer said:
    Amy was treating people, off-world, and being paid for it. Vicky accompanied her for support. Starts here, next here.
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    In particular, both took the same precautions as Kamil to avoid a risk of cross-contamination. It's suggested earlier that this is some sort of technically not tinkertech, that has a limited duration before being aggressively purged from the body.
     
    Youthful Indiscretions, Part 2
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    • "But we didn't complain?" Nessa said. "I'm sure the others didn't complain either, you treated us really well."

    Max sighed, got up, and began pacing. "It doesn't matter. If they have evidence, they can prosecute even if everyone testified that we were all fine with it."

    "That's bullshit!" Jessa exclaimed. "What we do and who we do it with is our own business!"

    "I know," Max said, mixing himself a drink. "The law is meant to be used on the lesser races, not people like us. That's why it's written this way, you know what those people would say on the stand. They might even suggest you were paid or forced."

    "How can they do that?" Nessa asked, moving to comfort her sister.

    "It's a bullshit charge," Max said, handing a drink to Jessa. "Everyone does this sort of thing," Max continued, handing Nessa her own drink. "It's a right of passage for young men of the right breeding."
    Note: Adding a few more snippets to explain in more detail what is going on here.
     
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    • dc2008 said:
    Note: Adding a few more to explain in more detail what is going on here.
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    'little' not 'few'?

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    Interesting to speculate just how racist this Max actually is... Canon Max is often considered to use Nazism as a tool. Past a certain point, might using that tool alter his actual thinking? Is he (just) telling the twins what he thinks they want to hear?
     
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    • Ace Dreamer said:
    'little' not 'few'?

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    Interesting to speculate just how racist this Max actually is... Canon Max is often considered to use Nazism as a tool. Past a certain point, might using that tool alter his actual thinking? Is he (just) telling the twins what he thinks they want to hear?
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    There are at least two more snippets exploring the Nazi reactions. One is already written.

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    The way I am writing Max, he doesn't have any particular animosity toward *those people*. However, due to his upbringing, he still believes to his core that he is better than them. Roses are red, sky is blue, people of the right sort are inherently superior and are entitled to exercise power and authority over their lessers.

    It's not purely a racial matter either. Max undoubtedly has deeply offensive views about, e.g., poverty as a moral failure.

    Or, put differently, although genocide wouldn't particularly bother Max, he would find it perhaps wasteful. After all, at least some of those "people" could be put to use as minions/workers.

    Or, to paraphrase Sir Terry, the thing about Max is that he views (most) people as things.
     
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    • Ace Dreamer said:
    'little' not 'few'?

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    Interesting to speculate just how racist this Max actually is... Canon Max is often considered to use Nazism as a tool. Past a certain point, might using that tool alter his actual thinking? Is he (just) telling the twins what he thinks they want to hear?
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    Max Anders isn't raciest. He doesn't hate people based on skin color, gender, or religion. He thinks everyone else is beneath him, and thus hates everyone equally. Still a monster, but a different flavor of monster. Possibly a worse one, but that's up for debate.
     
    FaerieKnight79 said:
    Max Anders isn't raciest. He doesn't hate people based on skin color, gender, or religion. He thinks everyone else is beneath him, and thus hates everyone equally. Still a monster, but a different flavor of monster. Possibly a worse one, but that's up for debate.
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    Max is arguably broken. His father managed in two generations what normally takes three, for the newly rich. Getting the next gen disconnected from humanity. So they forget how humanity works together, or dies together.

    Arguably this is what the British boarding/residential schools used to do (still do?) to create the next generation of (colonial) administrators. Wreck their empathy for anyone other than their 'class'. Some lose that as well, people vary, some survive/resist. Why encourage mutual bonding? You're going to need some cooperation, and another generation...

    Some 'monsters' are socially useful...
    (No, I don't think the above is a good idea. 'Us' and 'Them' causes enough problems, without helping it.)
     
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    Ace Dreamer said:
    Interesting to speculate just how racist this Max actually is... Canon Max is often considered to use Nazism as a tool. Past a certain point, might using that tool alter his actual thinking? Is he (just) telling the twins what he thinks they want to hear?
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    So here's the dangerous part about trying to do that.

    The company you keep reinforces what you consider normal. It's why people keep making echo chamber comments about the internet, and why propaganda works. What you are exposed to becomes normalized, even if you go into it thinking 'I know this is wrong'. Just being around the same information day in and day out will shape your thinking.

    So if you spend 10 years hanging out with Nazi's "pretending" to be a Nazi... you'll be a Nazi regardless of what your plan was. Those are the conversations you'll have every day, those are the habits you'll build. That's how you'll start thinking.
     
    Youthful Indiscretions, Part 3
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    • Jessa downed her drink in one go. "They do the same thing," she exclaimed in frustration. "I bet Lung is feeding them little yellow girls, and they're jealous no one of the right breeding will go with them!"

    Max nodded. "Remember, it's not about this anyway." He turned to face out the window. "This is about pressuring the company. They might talk about protecting girls, but they don't care."

    Nessa joined Max at the window. "Could Lung be doing this? Or even Coil."

    "Coil has never shown the capability," Max replied, turning to face the girls. "As for Lung, he couldn't do it alone. He has never had contacts with the Feds…"

    "Photos, even," Jessa said, shuddering. "How would he or anyone get those?"

    "… he might not have," Max replied slowly. "He is with the Elite now, it's possible that he paid someone else to find them, or even fake them."

    "Race traitors," Nessa spat.

    "Fortunately," Max said, returning to his desk. "We have our own contacts in the Elite."
    Note: I feel dirty even writing this. It's hard to remember at times that Nessa and Jessa were literally groomed into being the way they are.
     
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    • Note: I have rebuilt my buffer! So long as it is eight snippets or more I'll post twice per day! Enjoy!
    The line rang twice before it was picked up. A few moments of formalities established that both Max and Victor were who they said they were.

    Max quickly, and deniably, summarized his suspicions. "… from your organization."

    "Hmmm," Victor replied. Max could hear the faint sound of typing in the background. "It's not impossible. I won't comment on what our Brockton office might or might not be doing, and don't read anything into that. I don't know. Intentional on my part, and theirs."

    Max frowned. "Is there anything you can share? Anything you can do? We still have significant resources."

    "New York Office will not undercut our office in the Bay, nor help others do so," Victor replied firmly.

    "Surely we are better partners than that beast?"

    "You're too hot, Max, you and the company and the community group. You've got the suits of all types sniffing around and that's before the bogeyman."

    Max waited and let the silence drag on.

    "… that said, a relocation package might be possible."

    "Price?" Max asked, already dreading the answer. He already knew it wouldn't be something so benign as money.

    "Germany," Victor replied.

    Damn.

    "Understood," Max said, forcing himself to maintain a level tone. "We will consider." Only as a last resort. Gesellschaft was not forgiving.

    "Consider quickly. We expect your situation to deteriorate rapidly."
    Note: Ruh-rooh
     
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    • "So what happened?" Missy asked Aisha eagerly.

    "Yeah!" Dinah added. "You can't just send pics like that! Why were you both all dressed up?"

    The three girls were meeting at Aisha's 'no parents' apartment for 'homework' but really for more important things.

    Aisha leaned in conspiratorially. "So I told you about pressing charges to piss off Madame Judgy McBastard from school?"

    The other two girls nodded. "I remembered that the trainer from the group, you remember, the old guy he let us call him Scarface? Well I remembered he said to call him if the popo gave us trouble so I did. He set up a meeting with some detective lady he knew, and agreed to take me in for the interview 'cause that way they would treat me better."

    "Anyway," Aisha said, grinning widely, "he showed up in his super-fancy uniform with all the medals and stuff like in the picture, and when we got there, the guy at the front desk almost tripped on himself…"
    Note: Near as I can tell, on Bet the PRT and not the military is the premiere "defending America" service. Coming right after an Endbringer attack…
     
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    • Ah yes, the "Nobody mess with this kid, because her being the sister of a Ward is nothing compared to being cared for by Dr. Weaver."

    Honestly I'm surprised they even went on such a straightforward route...
     
    Ace Dreamer said:
    might want to hyphenate 'no parents'? - this doesn't read right
    possible 'parent-free' might be better? dunno

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    Looks like Aisha has fully grasped the 'Total Social Crush' technique...
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    Put it in quotes to indicate that's what Missy/Dinah call it.

    Aisha got, like, a whole team! She has Lisa to help her with the lawyer stuff, and Scarface to be scary at the cops, and Missy and Dinah for good ideas!
     
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