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Ghoul Quest (Tokyo Ghoul)

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Red Bovine said:
It's an option presented by the QM so it is most likely possible. This also happens to be complete science fiction with superhumans should not be possible and you are saying that finding a cure isn't possible? Seriously why do people say something is impossible anytime when ficion is involved?

@Teen Spirit Just to be sure is finding a cure actually possible?
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did not say it was impossible just that we are more likely to cure cancer then ghouls, also ghouls are not even a disease XD there a literal species, like how elves and humans look similar but are entirely different species.

the only possible "cure" is basically to genetically modify the entire ghoul species AND genetically modify their children, and there children, and there children as the changes wont pass on unless your medical tech is on par with advanced sci species on the level progeneter style tech levels
 
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Teen Spirit said:
Incredibly unlikely. The ambitions are less about what Alicia will achieve and more about what kind of person Alicia is.
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How about trying to find or creating a substitute food source? Is that anymore likely? Thinking of a character build where Alice is trying to make it so that Ghouls like herserf could live a normal life.
 
That'd probably be a variation on 'Freedom'; Finding an alternative food source would free you from the biggest issue of being a ghoul.
 
Vindictus said:
That'd probably be a variation on 'Freedom'; Finding an alternative food source would free you from the biggest issue of being a ghoul.
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Well thing is it's basically impossible to live a normal life since the rest of society has the justifiable fear of being eaten by ghouls. So if ghouls gained an altenative food source it means that humans don't need to be as afraid of ghouls since ghouls would no longer need to people to survive. Of course there is still the issue of being treated like a monster due to years of ghouls killing and mudering people to survie so...

Still I would have it as part of her motivation where she is trying to achieve a world where she can live a normal life with her mother by getting humans to lose their fear of ghouls. Which come from the fact that ghouls need to eat human bodies to live.
 
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[X] Plan: Your Mother's Daughter
[X] Key shaped earring
[X] Tucson, Arizona. (Ghoul Crimes are Moderate. Anti-Ghoul Police Measures are Moderate.)
[X]Doctor (You're following in your mother's footsteps)
[X]Sanguine: Confident, and Optimistic. Prone to flights of whimsy.
[X] Reach for the Top: You want to reach the top of your field, be the best neurosurgeon in the country, help send a man to mars, be elected president, something. College is just the first stop on a long and ambitious road for you.
[X] Intelligent (You've always been one of the brightest kids in Class. +5 to intelligence rolls)
[X] Charm (You have a way with words. +5 to Persuade rolls)
[X] Wit and Word (Your a funny gal, and people appreciate that. You can crack jokes of high calibre.)
[X]Circle of Friends (You have five or six people you could call good friends. Though unaware of your true nature they are close to you and are more than willing to help out or do a favor once and a while)
[X]Friend on the Force (A family friend works on the police force. It wouldn't be too hard to find out about the latest tactics and equipment they're using against ghouls.)
[X]Noticeable (Maybe you're on the tall side, maybe one eye is different then the other. Whatever the reason, people notice you when they see you and they tend to remember you. This can be problematic for a ghoul.
[X] Rage issues (Regardless of your normal demeanor, you have anger problems. Normally you keep it under control, but sometimes it slips away from you. You've never hurt anyone because of it, but you've come close)
[X] Reckless (You have a tendency to jump into things without much forethought. It has caused quite a few problems for you in the past)
[X] Glasses (You're practically blind without them.)

Prolly not gonna win, but it's an option.
 
Red Bovine said:
Well thing is it's basically impossible to live a normal life since the rest of society has the justifiable fear of being eaten by ghouls. So if ghouls gained an altenative food source it means that humans don't need to be as afraid of ghouls since ghouls would no longer need to people to survive. Of course there is still the issue of being treated like a monster due to years of ghouls killing and mudering people to survie so...
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To be honest, that's the thing with ghouls, it's basically impossible to live normal lives regardless of whether they actually go harm people. See Anteiku, where they collect dead bodies from people who've committed suicide. This technically harms nobody, but despite this they are still considered harmful beings because they are ghouls and are biologically forced to consume human flesh or starve and die. That simple capability is so alienating that it's basically what determines their status as "the bad guys" for ordinary human beings. Even if an alternative food source was found, people would likely still believe that they would continue to chase after human flesh, and many ghouls might still continue to do so regardless of what we might discover.

I suppose I'm being a realist, but I believe that there's a place for ghouls who don't necessarily hurt people, and I want to be a person who is living with their horrible needs and has come to terms with it. The alternative morality system is basically the main reason why I like Tokyo Ghoul so much in the first place, so trying to cure the disease might make for an interesting mindset, but it isn't something that I would like to explore in this quest.

(oops sorry lots of words...I need to sleep it's 2 am for me.....)
 
i say the best route is to eat all the Ghoul and be the only one left
 
Andelevion said:
To be honest, that's the thing with ghouls, it's basically impossible to live normal lives regardless of whether they actually go harm people. See Anteiku, where they collect dead bodies from people who've committed suicide. This technically harms nobody, but despite this they are still considered harmful beings because they are ghouls and are biologically forced to consume human flesh or starve and die. That simple capability is so alienating that it's basically what determines their status as "the bad guys" for ordinary human beings. Even if an alternative food source was found, people would likely still believe that they would continue to chase after human flesh, and many ghouls might still continue to do so regardless of what we might discover.
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Well most of humanity probably don't consider the fact that people like Anteiku exist or that there are ghouls that avoid killing people because it is assumed that they get their food by murdering people. If an altenative food source was found ghoul oppontents can't use the they need to eat people to survive argument since that would no longer be the case. Not to mention that most would immediately stop killing people solely due to the practical reason is that they would become far less likely to be killed and hunted down since they would no longer need to hunt people down to survive.

Andelevion said:
I suppose I'm being a realist, but I believe that there's a place for ghouls who don't necessarily hurt people, and I want to be a person who is living with their horrible needs and has come to terms with it. The alternative morality system is basically the main reason why I like Tokyo Ghoul so much in the first place, so trying to cure the disease might make for an interesting mindset, but it isn't something that I would like to explore in this quest.
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I think that it would make for an interesting story by having a character that wanted to actually wanted to fit in society and live a normal life and is determined to work towards it. But she is also aware that even if she does succeed that humanity would still hate and be terrified of Ghouls for what they are and what they have done to humanity for their entire existance until now. So it could be seen as taking the first step even if she is likely to fail by freeing ghouls of their course so that they could truly live normal live and be accepted by humanity as people not monsters. Though what I would find really interesting is the idea of Ghouls trying to find acceptance in a world that has justifiably feared and hated them for most of their existence while realizing that it may be an impossible task. Which seems appropriate for the theme in that even Alice knows she is unlikely to succed she believes the idea is worth trying no matter how hard it seems. I am talking about trying to find ways for someone like her to become accepted for who she is.

Well thats the idea anyway, not sure if I conveyed it right. Though I don have an idea for a fic now.
 
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[X] Plan Save your race

Even if the cure is impossible, it seems a good goal to try.
And even if it's impossible to go from ghoul to human, it's not necessarily impossible to work out a substitute for human flesh is it?
 
@Andelevion I must say that, apart from the Loner trait I like your plan the most , and I think that getting the Social Circle trait, would be worth it because As we said in my country "A man has to have friends even in Hell, whatever may happen"

So this is my plan the only changes from the original quiet living is that I changed the Loner trait for Socially Awkward and added the Circle of Friends in exchange for Noticeable.

[X] Plan Quiet Living (with friends)
-[X] very expensive golden ring.
-[X]Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (Ghoul Crimes are High, Anti-Ghoul Police Measures are Low)
-[X]Doctor (You're following in your mother's footsteps)
-[X]Phlegmatic: Practical and careful. Generally Very Serious
-[X] AMBITION: Repayment (Your mother took great pains to keep you safe and happy, and that's something you took to heart. Though you're a ghoul, somehow she's willing to take on that burden and so you've learned to accept that this is your life. It's difficult, but as a ghoul, you're going to keep out of notice, take pains to live a life worth living, and leave a positive impact on the world as to properly use up the life you've been given.)
-[X] Small Appetite (Most Ghouls need to eat a large meal at least once a month, you can go twice that.)
-[X]Circle of Friends (You have five or six people you could call good friends. Though unaware of your true nature they are close to you and are more than willing to help out or do a favor once and a while)-[X]Friend on the Force (A family friend works on the police force. It wouldn't be too hard to find out about the latest tactics and equipment they're using against ghouls.)
-[X] Intelligent (You've always been one of the brightest kids in Class. +5 to intelligence rolls)
-[X]Noticeable (Maybe you're on the tall side, maybe one eye is different then the other. Whatever the reason, people notice you when they see you and they tend to remember you. This can be problematic for a ghoul.
-[X] Enemy of your Mother (Unknown to you, your mother has pissed off a local ghoul. This may prove problematic in the future)
-[X] Socially Awkward (You're kind of a dork. -5 to Persuade Rolls)

Any thoughts about it?
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
Any thoughts about it?
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Honestly, I can understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure if the voters will also be okay with it? Since there are already a few people who like the current plan (also thank you voters I love you all)

Also, for Loner I believe it's more a start out trait, where you are currently mostly isolated. I agree that friends would be nice, but also I'm not sure the current set up would be ok to get Noticeable. We can probably get friends later on, but starting out we are rather isolated.

Again, this isn't to say that we'll stay this way, so I guess I'd see about other people's perspective?
 
Andelevion said:
Honestly, I can understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure if the voters will also be okay with it? Since there are already a few people who like the current plan (also thank you voters I love you all)

Also, for Loner I believe it's more a start out trait, where you are currently mostly isolated. I agree that friends would be nice, but also I'm not sure the current set up would be ok to get Noticeable. We can probably get friends later on, but starting out we are rather isolated.

Again, this isn't to say that we'll stay this way, so I guess I'd see about other people's perspective?
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That's the problem, I see the Loner as a trait, the same as Socially Awkward or Clumsy, and even if it was a starting point and not a trait, I think that apart from the obvious advantages that comes with having good friends, the quest will be more interesting if our character has as many people as possible with whom she can interact with.
 
I like this ambition more than the overly cliche and idealistic "find a cure" thing.

And playing the Hikikomori type (despite that having some sense being a ghoul and all) doesn't seem appealing at all.

[X] Plan Quiet Living (with friends)
 
[X] Plan Ruisu: 1
Ruisu

[X] Plan #1: 1
Ghostdevil

[X] Plan Z: 4
Z000
WorthyStranger
Zuduke
RhapsodyofLife

[X] Plan Knight In Sour Armor: 1
SpaceMultiply

[X] Plan Save your race: 4
D-san
veekie
Olgol2
chocolote12

[X]Plan Shadow Knight: 1
Cybendeath

[X] Plan Quiet Living: 7
Andelevion
trichoysis
Penguinmuster
yert
Mr.Dragon Fish
Nidhoggr
APL 123AZ

[X] Plan Junior Detective: 1
Side Character

[X] Plan: Your Mother's Daughter: 1
kokuenDG

[X] Plan Quiet Living (with friends): 3
Fanhunter696
Maken
Pistachoazul

24 voters
 
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