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Ghosts of the Ancestors. (A Cultivation Riot Quest).

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Toboe said:
Cool.

Especially if we can buddy up with our friends (in your example: Imagine we had the 10 rolled in the fire pills but only herbs for 5 pills. But then our friends decide they want fire pills too and pay us in herbs (and potentially some pocketmoney)

Profit all around.
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Also joining the alchemy hall means we can make profit off pills .
so just selling em for profit also works.
 
Honestly at this point even if you're not a qi ghost no one would blame you for throwing a die at pure qi gathering. We literally only need a little progress to get out of qi debt
 
uri said:
BTW seeing as you're finally getting into the alchemy hall and you reached alchemy 3, this means I can finally bust out the mass production rules for Guang Li.

So basically, when utilizing a pill furnace (part of advanced tools) to concoct the same instance of pill/elixir, each instance of the pill above the first gives double production value of the previous one (up to a limit decided by the tool ranks, for our case this being 4).

For an example, let's say you brew fire pills. This requires 2 score on the alchemy roll per pill and lets say you rolled 10.

Normally this would mean 5 pills were brewed.

With your skill sufficient for mass production and the tools for it being available you instead brew 1+2+4+4+4 pills for a total of 15. 3 times the production value.

You still need to pay all the herb costs and can only produce pills of that one kind.

This is how the sect can basically supply everyone with pills (at such low prices) when less of a tenth of its members are dedicated alchemists.
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@uri
How do pill furnaces interact with other tools (like cost reduction)?

Also: Incase I miss the post:
Unless we reach highest tier, please use my re-roll on alchemy hall entrance exam (unless we botch it so hard we couldn't get in either way).
 
A thought just occurred to me; have either of our friends given any indication of wanting to join a particular hall? I wouldn't be shocked if Shu Cai wanted to join either the exploration or judgment halls, but I don't think we know much about Ma Fen's interests.
 
Okey, I'm going ahead and closing the vote.

Do we have an updated tally?

Anyways, you bought both the hall test (which is 20 cc not 30 the shit list doesn't apply) and armor this turn.

Let's start with the hall test, this is a pure alchemy roll (and I'm taking his skill at the end of the turn), so 3d10+4 (int) with the following breakpoints, 10/25/50.

After that we have Guang Li refining his heart, using blood and the elixir means he rolls his cultivation skill (3) +wis (+5) and multiplies the progress by 3.

For pill brewing Guang Li rolls 2d10+4, he is to just brew calm Qi pills and maybe more fire Qi if he has some left.

For his meridian roll, he rolls 1d10+13 ( I think you filed twice more on the roll this turn) so he only needs 2 or more (although with track record watch him roll a 1).
Scheduled vote count started by uri on Mar 16, 2025 at 7:24 AM, finished with 98 posts and 51 votes.
  • [X] Pay the fee for one of the hall exams (required to get accepted by a hall) for 20 30CC.
    -[X] The Alchemy hall. (medium alchemy skills).
    [X] Buy basic armor (reduced HP damage form attacks so long as the armor is intact) for 10 15 CC.
    [X] craft a Qi siphon [1/7 crafted]- with their knowledge the ancestors can manipulate the Qi around Guang Li spiritual roots into a whirlpool drawing in ambient Qi into his dantian without his or their intervention, unfortunately without active guidance they cannot take advantage of the clear meridians to draw even more Qi.
    -[X] Yin [80/170]. +1 Yin Qi per turn.
    [X] Teach Guang Li.
    -[X] Alchemy [Advanced][86/150]. Raise the alchemy skill to 3.
    [X] The life line- with some work and adaptation the wrath ghost can crave a path into Guang Li lifeline making drawing the power of blood for his body far easier, by necessity they would go slow as to not hurt him [228/300]. Reduce the needed progress for the cut away life by 5.
    [X] Look to the stars for hidden knowledge of the future [91/500]. Reveal the event in the event track permanently.
    [X] Teach Guang Li.
    -[X] Breakthrough [Advanced] [50/100]. Raise the breakthrough skill to 2.
    [X] attempt to break through to QC3-low. Cost 2 Qi per attempt. DC 20. Advance to QC3-Low. (4 attmpts so far)
    -[X]Autofail
    [X] Teach Guang Li.
    -[X] Cultivation. [31/75]. Raise the cultivation skill to 4.
    [X] Clear a meridian acupoint. Cost 5 Qi per attempt DC 15 (18/21/24) [3/670 Cleared]. +1 open meridian. (note: 4 failure's so far).
    -[X]Autofail
    [X] Further refine a basic weapon (t0 to t1)- Take a step further in the refining of the weapon, making it more than just a tool but a weapon which bears wight upon the tapestry of the world, more than just a better tool. Cost: 3 Qi per time taken special: for +1 Qi to the cost non wrath Ghosts may roll as if this action was in their category. [0/50]. Gain t1 weapon (+10 to combat rolls).
    [X] Gather Qi [1/3]. Gain 1 Qi. (every 3 points of progress here give 1 point of Qi).
    [X] Pay the fee for one of the hall exams (required to get accepted by a hall) for 20 CC.
    -[X] The Alchemy hall. (medium alchemy skills).
    [X] Refin Guang body. variable cost.
    -[X] Refine his senses. Cost 1 Qi per time taken [0/30]. Refined sense I (+1 Perception).
    --[X] Use reflection Qi
    [X] Merge Qi [0/15 per Qi use in the merge). Note: I'm not going to add all of the possible types and their effect's so as a rule thumb advanced Qi get everything the Qi they are made out of plus a little extra, if you want to know specific QI type ask me.
    -[X] ice [0/30] water + Yin.
    [X] Seek knowledge from the collective.
    -[X] knowledge of extrem Yin and extream Yang. [10/250] unlock an action to change Yin Qi to Yang Qi and Yang Qi to yin Qi.
    [X] attempt to divine informeiton upon the event [7/75] [0/150] [0/225] information.
    [X] The life line- with some work and adaptation the wrath ghost can crave a path into Guang Li lifeline making drawing the power of blood for his body far easier, by necessity they would go slow as to not hurt him [228/300]. Reduce the needed progress for the cut away life by 5.
    -[X] the fast route. -5 Hp, 3x time the progress.
    [X] Seek knowledge from the collective.
    -[X] Knowledge of the bloodline [47/250]. Unlock bloodline actions.
    [X] Gather Qi [1/3]. Gain 1 Qi. (every 3 points of progress here give 1 point of Qi).
    -[X] Yang Qi [5/60]
    [X] Gather Qi [1/3]. Gain 1 Qi. (every 3 points of progress here give 1 point of Qi).
    -[X] Yin Qi [12/17]
    -[X] Breakthrough [Advanced] [50/100]. Raise the breakthrough skill to 2.
    [X] Teach Guang Li.
    -[X] Knowledge of the bloodline [47/250]. Unlock bloodline actions.
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uri threw 3 10-faced dice. Reason: alchemy test. Total: 20
5 5 6 6 9 9
uri threw 3 10-faced dice. Reason: cultvetion. Total: 15
10 10 3 3 2 2
uri threw 2 10-faced dice. Reason: alchemy. Total: 14
4 4 10 10
uri threw 1 10-faced dice. Reason: meredian. Total: 10
10 10
uri threw 1 10-faced dice. Reason: alchemy test. reroll 1. Total: 6
6 6
 
looks like we might have just barely gotten the second breakpoint on the test. assuming that reroll replaces the 5. so that would be 25 total with the +4 from int.
 
I feel like Guang Li just used up the next ten years of luck on that nat 10 for the meridian roll.

Either that, or the ghost-ancestors are really stoked from all the ghost-cocaine they imbibed at La Su Wei Jia Su and raining blessings upon their junior.
 
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Processing the result, Guang Li passed the second breakpoint in the test (that reroll replaces the 5), he also successfully open the next meridian and got 60 progress on refining his heart.

As for pills, Guang Li brews 3 calm Qi pills (a total of +6 to all QC breakthrough rolls) as well as 1 point of fire Qi, costing a total of 17 common herbs (leaving him with 1 after his passive gathering).
 
Man our boy is doing great! . moreover we should be able to finally breakthrough next turn with that +6 and our 6 failures, we only need 8 or above to breakthrough ourself.
 
uri said:
Do we have an updated tally?
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If this earns a +5 add it to the meridian action if allowed if not to the Refine his senses action i did.

Qi reserve [24/31]
-pure 14. +5 Gathered -4 attempt to break through -10 Clear a meridian -6 Further refine a basic weapon = -1 Pure Qi
-water 8. -1 Refine his senses +2 passive income
-Yin 2. +1 gathered
fire 1 (pills)

[] craft a Qi siphon [1/7 crafted]- with their knowledge the ancestors can manipulate the Qi around Guang Li spiritual roots into a whirlpool drawing in ambient Qi into his dantian without his or their intervention, unfortunately without active guidance they cannot take advantage of the clear meridians to draw even more Qi.
-[] pure [0/30]. +1 pure Qi per turn.
-[] water [23/90]. +1 Water Qi per turn.
-[] Yin [80/170]. +1 Yin Qi per turn.
80+6+8+4+6+2+7+7+9+7=136


[] Merge Qi [0/15 per Qi use in the merge). Note: I'm not going to add all of the possible types and their effect's so as a rule thumb advanced Qi get everything the Qi they are made out of plus a little extra, if you want to know specific QI type ask me.
-[] ice [0/30] water + Yin.
0+5=5

[ ] Teach Guang Li.
-[ ] Cultivation. [31/75]. Raise the cultivation skill to 4.
31+5+8=44
-[ ] Breakthrough [Advanced] [50/100]. Raise the breakthrough skill to 2.
50+7+6+6+11=80
-[ ] Alchemy [Advanced][86/150]. Raise the alchemy skill to 3.
86+8+9+9+7+7+8+7+6+4+9=160

[ ] Gather Qi [1/3]. Gain 1 Qi. (every 3 points of progress here give 1 point of Qi).
1+(5+6*1.4)=16 +5 pure Qi
-[ ] water Qi [7/9].
-[ ] Yin Qi [12/17]
12+(8*1.4)=31 + 1 Yin
-[ ] Yang Qi [5/60]
5+(6*1.4)=13


[ ] The life line- with some work and adaptation the wrath ghost can crave a path into Guang Li lifeline making drawing the power of blood for his body far easier, by necessity they would go slow as to not hurt him [228/300]. Reduce the needed progress for the cut away life by 5.
-[ ] the fast route. -5 Hp, 3x time the progress. x1
228+11+7+9+6+36+7+6+4=314

[ ] attempt to break through to QC3-low. Cost 2 Qi per attempt. DC 20. Advance to QC3-Low. (4 attmpts so far)
autofail x2
-4 pure Qi

[ ] Clear a meridian acupoint. Cost 5 Qi per attempt DC 15 (18/21/24) [3/670 Cleared]. +1 open meridian. (note: 4 failure's so far).
autofail x2
-10 pure Qi

[ ] Refin Guang body. variable cost.
-[ ] Refine his senses. Cost 1 Qi per time taken [0/30]. Refined sense I (+1 Perception).
--[ ] Use reflection Qi
0+20

[ ] Look to the stars for hidden knowledge of the future [91/500]. Reveal the event in the event track permanently.
91+3+10+10

[ ] Further refine a basic weapon (t0 to t1)- Take a step further in the refining of the weapon, making it more than just a tool but a weapon which bears wight upon the tapestry of the world, more than just a better tool. Cost: 3 Qi per time taken special: for +1 Qi to the cost non wrath Ghosts may roll as if this action was in their category. [0/50]. Gain t1 weapon (+10 to combat rolls).
0+7+11
-6 pure Qi

[ ] Seek knowledge from the collective.
-[ ] knowledge of extrem Yin and extream Yang. [10/250] unlock an action to change Yin Qi to Yang Qi and Yang Qi to yin Qi.
10+9

[ ] attempt to divine informeiton upon the event [7/75] [0/150] [0/225] information.
7+9

-[ ] Knowledge of the bloodline [47/250]. Unlock bloodline actions.
47+9+7=63


[ ] The life line- with some work and adaptation the wrath ghost can crave a path into Guang Li lifeline making drawing the power of blood for his body far easier, by necessity they would go slow as to not hurt him [228/300]. Reduce the needed progress for the cut away life by 5.
-[ ] the fast route. -5 Hp, 3x time the progress. x1
228+11+7+9+6+36+7+6+4


[ ] attempt to break through to QC3-low. Cost 2 Qi per attempt. DC 20. Advance to QC3-Low. (4 attmpts so far)
autofail x2
-4 pure Qi

[ ] Clear a meridian acupoint. Cost 5 Qi per attempt DC 15 (18/21/24) [3/670 Cleared]. +1 open meridian. (note: 4 failure's so far).
autofail x2
-5 pure Qi

[ ] Refin Guang body. variable cost.
-[ ] Refine his senses. Cost 1 Qi per time taken [0/30]. Refined sense I (+1 Perception).
--[ ] Use reflection Qi
0+20

[ ] Look to the stars for hidden knowledge of the future [91/500]. Reveal the event in the event track permanently.
91+3+10+10


[ ] Further refine a basic weapon (t0 to t1)- Take a step further in the refining of the weapon, making it more than just a tool but a weapon which bears wight upon the tapestry of the world, more than just a better tool. Cost: 3 Qi per time taken special: for +1 Qi to the cost non wrath Ghosts may roll as if this action was in their category. [0/50]. Gain t1 weapon (+10 to combat rolls).
0+7+11
-6 pure Qi

[ ] Seek knowledge from the collective.
-[ ] knowledge of extrem Yin and extream Yang. [10/250] unlock an action to change Yin Qi to Yang Qi and Yang Qi to yin Qi.
10+9

[ ] attempt to divine informeiton upon the event [7/75] [0/150] [0/225] information.
7+9

-[ ] Knowledge of the bloodline [47/250]. Unlock bloodline actions.
47+9+7=63
 
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Honestly that went about as well as could be hoped for. No more shit list, got into the alchemy hall, a newly opened meridian, and we finally finished our first level of blood refinement!

So for next turn since it seems likely we'll want to finish breaking through, do we want to use water or yin qi for that? Just so we're all on the same page.
 
TheNotoriousSMP said:
Honestly that went about as well as could be hoped for. No more shit list, got into the alchemy hall, a newly opened meridian, and we finally finished our first level of blood refinement!

So for next turn since it seems likely we'll want to finish breaking through, do we want to use water or yin qi for that? Just so we're all on the same page.
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Probablly yin , yang would have been good but we don't have a good source for that.
Also depends what stats we want to focus on for guang really.
 
When the Yin Qi siphon is completed, what do people think about voting to lock its production to going towards unlocking the second step? We'll want to put extra amounts in so we don't need to wait 50 turns to complete it, but we'll at least be able to chip away at the requirements.

The health req can wait until we're closer to full health and can make better healing pills.
 
Can we autofail enough to pick up two meridians in one go or if you autofail enough to reduce the Dc to zero due you just get forced to succeed?
 
StarJaunter said:
Can we autofail enough to pick up two meridians in one go or if you autofail enough to reduce the Dc to zero due you just get forced to succeed?
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I don't think there is a difference mathwise here , though I might be wrong
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If the DC is cumulative and we can attempt multiple checks in one go, the total DC becomes 33 (15 + 18).

Functionally, if we fail 15 times and don't auto-complete, we need to roll 18 or higher to succeed. Even if auto-completion is possible, we would still need to roll 18 for the next chance.

Edit: Our best strategy is to increase Guang's dice through his Intelligence and Breakthrough skill, letting him hit the higher combined DCs.
 
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