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Flandre's Quest (Touhou) World - (Madness Quest)

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[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] No more, I can't stand it, I can't understand! Banish me, banish me, BANISH ME! Otherwise I'll hurt somebody people will miss! I'd be out of your hair right? No more rules for everything! Just fire me in a coffin somewhere and I'll manage; I've done so for so long. If you can't do that, thenfinish me, scatter my ashes, dust to dust. At least you'd be strong enough to do it properly.
 
Entropy Judge said:
It is daylight, which is hindering her healing and will start hurting her if she stays in the sun for too much longer, but she's perfectly capable of throwing a verbal tantrum.
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Makes sense, even though Touhou vamps can actually reabsorb the flaking off burning reisdue burning in the sun that's still gotta hurt like a motherfucker.

(At least for the quest ...) Or blinding Flandre. Simply making it so she can't see, like a blindfold, won't actually stop the power, but it will make her unable to target things effectively. Removing her eyes entirely would stop it ... at least until her eyes grew back.
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Also makes sense from a quest standpoint so that things aren't too boring, though frankly most people are hindered by being blinded. Though her power is kinda weird in that the 'eye' just seems to be in her hand, as if the power just operates instinctually and that the eye of whatev ster she wants to break just appears there immediately.

Flandre's just stupid broken like that, even canon admits her ability's insane with no real weaknesses.
 
[X] Surrender.
-[X] "Must be a good girl. Must break only the right things. Must not cause trouble. Must help."

Give them a clue as to what set us off?
 
techsy730 said:
So, given how much it took to take us down (and we didn't even break out the truly "broken" stuff), and the observations the TSAB has collected about us over the past month(?), what "power rank" would Flandre have? AAA? AAA+? S? Hell, maybe even S+?
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Synthetic SSS like Hayate probably. We're ridiculously powerful in an esoteric aspect, and clear S in general, but we are only unsurpassed in Breaking.
 
[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] No more, I can't stand it, I can't understand! Banish me, banish me, BANISH ME! Otherwise I'll hurt somebody people will miss! I'd be out of your hair right? No more rules for everything! Just fire me in a coffin somewhere and I'll manage; I've done so for so long. If you can't do that, thenfinish me, scatter my ashes, dust to dust. At least you'd be strong enough to do it properly.
 
New approach idea that's less Rorschach that entertains the notion of us remaining in the setting and is less screamy. May lead to an institutionalization end though:

[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
 
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[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
--"Why is everyone so upset? I didn't do anything wrong! You're going to lock me in a basement, aren't you? That's what happened the last time...I just had some fun, and then big sister is talking about things that don't make sense and I can't go out anymore and I just want to break everything!"
 
[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
--"Why is everyone so upset? I didn't do anything wrong! You're going to lock me in a basement, aren't you? That's what happened the last time...I just had some fun, and then big sister is talking about things that don't make sense and I can't go out anymore and I just want to break everything!"

Gosh dang it I'm changing votes like a chameleon:confused:
 
Doctor Akemi said:
[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
--"Why is everyone so upset? I didn't do anything wrong! You're going to lock me in a basement, aren't you? That's what happened the last time...I just had some fun, and then big sister is talking about things that don't make sense and I can't go out anymore and I just want to break everything!"

Gosh dang it I'm changing votes like a chameleon:confused:
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I have only a tenuous idea of what I want to vote for too. Kind of think the last part is laying things on a bit thick though.
 
[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
--"Why is everyone so upset? I didn't do anything wrong! You're going to lock me in a basement, aren't you? That's what happened the last time...I just had some fun, and then big sister is talking about things that don't make sense and I can't go out anymore and I just want to break everything!"
 
[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
--"Why is everyone so upset? I didn't do anything wrong! You're going to lock me in a basement, aren't you? That's what happened the last time...I just had some fun, and then big sister is talking about things that don't make sense and I can't go out anymore and I just want to break everything!"
 
@Cataquack @Doctor Akemi @veekie @Draggon73
Flandre wasn't ever 'locked' in the basement, but after she killed Remilia she started taking things overly literally, partly in an attempt at atonement. What happened is that Remilia asked her to stay out of sight for a bit during some negotiations, and Flandre became her shut-in self as a result. Between the aftereffects of what happened to her, and the fact that they had been drifting apart, Remilia just sort of accepted the change as 'normal.' And no one's sat them down and forced them to have relationship therapy, so both of them feel like they've done something wrong but can't/won't talk about it.

Remember also that Flandre isn't stupid, and neither is Remilia - as far as important explanations go, Flandre does understand what Remilia has told her.

@techsy730
Flandre's initial effective mage rank assessment, based on the Sim and Church incidents, was AA. Subsequent actions bumped it up to AAA+ ... until the kidnapping attempt showed that she could have a relatively serious fight without passing out immediately. They aren't sure what to rank her as, except to note that her offensive power is somewhere in the range of "Don't piss her off."


I reserve the right to amend either or both of the above statements, because I've never been particularly coherent half an hour after I wake up or in the half-hour before I leave for work, and this is both. :/ I don't think I'm mixing head-canons, but I don't usually think I'm saying stupid things either.
 
[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
--"Why is everyone so upset? I didn't do anything wrong! You're going to keep me in a basement, aren't you? That's what happened the last time...I just had some fun, and then big sister is talking about things that don't make sense and I can't go out anymore and I just want to break everything!"

Revised.
 
[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
--"Why is everyone so upset? I didn't do anything wrong! You're going to keep me in a basement, aren't you? That's what happened the last time...I just had some fun, and then big sister is talking about things that don't make sense and I can't go out anymore and I just want to break everything!"

Gosh damnit! I have to change again! :mad: it is getting bit annoying...
 
[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
--"Why is everyone so upset? I didn't do anything wrong! You're going to keep me in a basement, aren't you? That's what happened the last time...I just had some fun, and then big sister is talking about things that don't make sense and I can't go out anymore and I just want to break everything!"
 
I guess, i'l wait a bit to see if current bandwagon version is final. While i generally like/approve of the direction it is going, i don't really feel like changing vote multiple times in a page or two. =/
 
Entropy Judge said:
@Cataquack @Doctor Akemi @veekie @Draggon73
Flandre wasn't ever 'locked' in the basement, but after she killed Remilia she started taking things overly literally, partly in an attempt at atonement. What happened is that Remilia asked her to stay out of sight for a bit during some negotiations, and Flandre became her shut-in self as a result. Between the aftereffects of what happened to her, and the fact that they had been drifting apart, Remilia just sort of accepted the change as 'normal.' And no one's sat them down and forced them to have relationship therapy, so both of them feel like they've done something wrong but can't/won't talk about it.

Remember also that Flandre isn't stupid, and neither is Remilia - as far as important explanations go, Flandre does understand what Remilia has told her.
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Oops, sorry; I think we'll have to revise my portion of the vote. Here's the new version of my vote. Does the last part fit with Flandre better?

[X] Call her name
-[X] Surrender
--[X] Hug her
--[X] Vent verbally
---[X] "I asked permission to test the spell cards because I don't know how to do the ring thing to people and Spellcards are nonlethal. I went someplace nobody cares about when I got mad that people aren't supposed to go, and waited until they shot at me before I fed on anybody. But you're here anyway. Keeping track of who can do what is confusing. How do humans do it? Can you tell me that at least before I get sent to another basement or you have to kill me or banish me someplace I'll be out of your hair?"
--"Why is everyone so upset? I didn't do anything wrong! You just want me to disappear, is that it? That's what happened the last time...I just had some fun, and then big sister says that I should stay out of the way for a while and then I'm alone and just want to make the world disappear too!"
 
A note on the votes as they're going in general - and this is NOT a DM override ...

But I think you're all thinking of Flan's actions in the wrong way. Here's my thoughts on the subject:

* Flandre is confused and irritated about the differing treatment she received from Marino and Hayate, possibly even angry. As far as she can tell, Hayate knew she was coming and let her get the tea ready, even sent someone to make sure she knew where her office was ... and then Hayate interrupted her, in the middle of a sentence, and just said "No." In front of a subordinate. As far as Flan is concerned, the only difference between how she treated Hayate and Marino is that she brought Hayate tea ... and Marino doesn't drink the stuff. This sort of thing is what would be covered under a non-specific "Vent Verbally" vote, although with more detail.

* Flandre is not afraid, either of the TSAB and RF6, or of being 'locked in a basement.' She still believes that nothing the TSAB can do can actually hold her against her will.

* Flan just lost, yes. Against six people working together, in daylight, while not going all out. This is the closest she's come to a "good fight" in the quest so far, for all that it was just her blowing off steam. And for all that she got the shit kicked out of her, relatively speaking, it was something she enjoyed. It's not like the fight against Kyubey's hit squad, where they used mind games to get some cheap shots against her; this was simply her getting into a fight and not holding back. That she lost isn't particularly relevant, in large part due to the fact that it's still daytime, which means she has neither her normal endurance nor her usual strength.

* Another reason she doesn't particularly mind losing is because as far as she's concerned, she just kicked Signum's ass. Now, Signum's attack was meant in part to distract Flan from Hayate's set-up and everyone else binding her, but it was still a full-on attack, and Flan broke Signum's Device. As far as she cares, that's proof enough of her overwhelming superiority.


... But that's my thoughts on the matter. If you want to have Flan have a minor freakout, I'll see what I can do, I just don't think it's particularly in-character for her. "Attack" is an option because, while she no longer has the blood-high nor Headless's support, Flan is still dangerous (and remember, if she's serious, she has no compunctions about losing a limb or two if that means she can take a target down; she can heal). Running is an option because Flan is smart enough to know that while she can keep fighting, it's not necessarily the best option. And surrendering is what she thinks she's "supposed" to do in this sort of situation.
 
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