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Firebird, a Worm AU/Xover?

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jerkface said:
IMHO there's no need to elevate PRT Quest into canon. You can just say: "PRT Quest info is relevant to this story." It's your story, and you get to pick the source material.

Next story you can change your mind, or not, as you like.

That said, I don't think an author has the ability to elevate some WoG into canon status just by declaring it so. Canon has to remain separate specifically so we can discuss it as a coherent entity. Someone who says "I read Worm" knows certain things; someone who says "I read PRT Quest but not Worm" knows other things.
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An author has the ability to define canon to be whatever they want it to be.
 
I don't understand what Danny thinks is going to happen if he signs those papers.

Taylor: No

Danny: Signed the papers, yes.

Taylor: Are the papers going to magically pick me up and force me to go on patrol? No.

Danny: Too late, I have a piece of paper with writing on it.

Taylor: Well I have infinite money and can fly away. Good fucking luck forcing me to do anything against my will.

The paper catches fire as Taylor disappears into the night sky.
 
Tekomandor said:
An author has the ability to define canon to be whatever they want it to be.
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I think he was drawing a distinction between cannon and WoG.

To my understanding, cannon consists of the story itself, or any story part of the same continuity, while WoG is the author declaring that while something does not directly come up in story, it should be considered to be true anyway.

In any case, this is fanfiction, so if Chibi says that a minor can be forced to join the Wards by a parent, then that is true in this universe.
Jackercracks said:
I don't understand what Danny thinks is going to happen if he signs those papers.

Taylor: No

Danny: Signed the papers, yes.

Taylor: Are the papers going to magically pick me up and force me to go on patrol? No.

Danny: Too late, I have a piece of paper with writing on it.

Taylor: Well I have infinite money and can fly away. Good fucking luck forcing me to do anything against my will.

The paper catches fire as Taylor disappears into the night sky.
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Well, for one thing, apart from knowing she's a parahuman of some sort (something he only found out that same day), he had no clue she can do any of those things.
 
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Jackercracks said:
I don't understand what Danny thinks is going to happen if he signs those papers.

Taylor: No

Danny: Signed the papers, yes.

Taylor: Are the papers going to magically pick me up and force me to go on patrol? No.

Danny: Too late, I have a piece of paper with writing on it.

Taylor: Well I have infinite money and can fly away. Good fucking luck forcing me to do anything against my will.

The paper catches fire as Taylor disappears into the night sky.
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It's pretty simple to me. Danny panicked and signed the papers without thinking of the consequences.
 
I really don't like this comparison of what Danny did with parents sending their kid to 'queer camp'. I don't find it to be remotely accurate. The latter is a matter of parents unable to deal trying to wish away a [perceived] problem. What Danny did is more akin to signing Taylor up for a mandatory full-time ROTC/military school/firearms education. Taylor effectively has a lethal weapon strapped to her head and a target painted on her back. The 'queer camp' thing is addressing an issue that only affects the child in question. A teenager with superpowers has an actual real potential to harm herself or others. I'm not necessarily defending what Danny has done, just pointing out that this analogy that keeps coming up is not even remotely accurate.
 
Sasha said:
Well, for one thing, apart from knowing she's a parahuman of some sort (something he only found out that same day), he had no clue she can do any of those things.
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I don't think 'I'm going to sign these papers and you're going to do it' would work even on forcing someone to do a sport or join a chess team, let alone hours of patrols every week. Maybe it's an American thing, thinking you can control a teenager unilaterally.
 
Meanwhile, with Leviathan:

"Levi? Hey Levi?"

"Mrrrf. Yes sis?"

"Good news. You can sleep in for a few more months."

"Benny volunteered?"

"Nope. All three of us get to sleep in!"

"Who is taking the Brockton Bay slot then?"

"No worries. The humans have it handled."
 
Rhostadt said:
I really don't like this comparison of what Danny did with parents sending their kid to 'queer camp'. I don't find it to be remotely accurate. The latter is a matter of parents unable to deal trying to wish away a [perceived] problem. What Danny did is more akin to signing Taylor up for a mandatory full-time ROTC/military school/firearms education. Taylor effectively has a lethal weapon strapped to her head and a target painted on her back. The 'queer camp' thing is addressing an issue that only affects the child in question. A teenager with superpowers has an actual real potential to harm herself or others. I'm not necessarily defending what Danny has done, just pointing out that this analogy that keeps coming up is not even remotely accurate.
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It's not like sending her to Queer Camp, but that's what it feels like to Taylor, which is all anyone said about the comparison.
 
It's as inevitable as the Rule 34. It will be because we of The Internet are all fucked in the head and must write ALL the stories.
 
JeffJway said:
Only if posted in the wormverse ideas thread, I think, with Panda-Danny holding up a "Write this story" sign
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The mere existence of the idea written down will cause a shift in the universe, reverberating across reality until someone, somewhere, writes the story. It matters not if anyone reads the idea, or if the idea is even written somewhere it can be read. Its mere existence is enough. Thus is the way of the fic. It can even echo back through time, so that the idea that spawned the existence of the story is thought of after the story itself is created. Causality has no hold on something as powerful as An Idea For a Fic.

Case in point, my asking for a fic where Mouse Protector is stationed in BB and mentors Taylor resulted in the creation of A Moth and a Mouse a week before I had the idea :p.
 
Uh, has anyone mentioned what Coil's up to? I thought he was zeroing in on Taylor. That, and the PRT finding out about her and (possibly) getting her to join seems like the kind of thing he would like to... disrupt.
 
BobSquirrelKing said:
The mere existence of the idea written down will cause a shift in the universe, reverberating across reality until someone, somewhere, writes the story. It matters not if anyone reads the idea, or if the idea is even written somewhere it can be read. Its mere existence is enough. Thus is the way of the fic. It can even echo back through time, so that the idea that spawned the existence of the story is thought of after the story itself is created. Causality has no hold on something as powerful as An Idea For a Fic.

Case in point, my asking for a fic where Mouse Protector is stationed in BB and mentors Taylor resulted in the creation of A Moth and a Mouse a week before I had the idea :p.
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.....huh, in that case I want a good comicverse spiderman fic...
 
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