Firebird, a Worm AU/Xover?

Fair point, I agree with that part, but unless Amy really thinks Vicky 'could' be into girls, it seems like an odd transferal of her own issues onto Taylor in a way that doesn't quite add up the right way.
It's not about romance, not really. Amy has already resigned herself to never being with Vicky even if Vicky was into girls. Her fear is that Taylor is playing Nice Guy tm and acting like Vicky's friend in the hopes of getting in her pants (or PG level equivalent). She's not keeping Vicky all to herself, she thinks, she's protecting her dear sweet sister from someone who will hurt her.
 
It's not about romance, not really. Amy has already resigned herself to never being with Vicky even if Vicky was into girls. Her fear is that Taylor is playing Nice Guy tm and acting like Vicky's friend in the hopes of getting in her pants (or PG level equivalent). She's not keeping Vicky all to herself, she thinks, she's protecting her dear sweet sister from someone who will hurt her.

Eh....I can see it, but even without the last "she never would", it still feels more (perhaps unintentionally) sinister/focused on the latter angle than 'gotta protect sweet innocent Vicky from the predatory nice-girl-who-might-be-interested'

Perhaps its just Amy taking it upon herself to 'protect' Victoria from something that, ostensibly, shouldn't even need any protecting (while, at least without telepathy shenanigans). Vicky's dealt with cling-ons before, as evident in her Arcadia Clique.
 
Perhaps its just Amy taking it upon herself to 'protect' Victoria from something that, ostensibly, shouldn't even need any protecting (while, at least without telepathy shenanigans). Vicky's dealt with cling-ons before, as evident in her Arcadia Clique.
But this is different you see, they're sharing secrets. They're patrolling together. Taylor even *gasp* made Vicky not pick Amy up from the hospital. It's only been a few days. Just imagine where it will be in a few weeks, or months, or even years. Why soon Vicky might not even have time for Amy, all because Taylor is trying to take her away. That will not stand.
 
But this is different you see, they're sharing secrets. They're patrolling together. Taylor even *gasp* made Vicky not pick Amy up from the hospital. It's only been a few days. Just imagine where it will be in a few weeks, or months, or even years. Why soon Vicky might not even have time for Amy, all because Taylor is trying to take her away. That will not stand.

Right, but if Amy's already 'resigned' herself to only being a part of Victoria's life, why the sudden resurgence? Just because Vicky missed picking her up on time, or even that Amy senses she might lose some of that time together?

I dunno. The possibility is there, and I'm not saying that I can't see where Amy's coming from re: the wanting Vicky's time angle, but it doesn't seem to quite mesh quite right with what's written.

Could just be me though, and unhealthy codependency isn't a new thing, considering.
 
Amy senses she might lose some of that time together?
It's basically this. Amy could deal with the boys since they're fleeting romances that burn out quick and rarely intruded on their girl time. Taylor is both a threat to Amy getting to be with Vicky alone as a girl, and also a possible romantic interest. It's the worst of both worlds. Amy's worried that Vicky will like new best friend Taylor, as well as worried that the new girl will make the sort of move Amy writes about in her deam journal. Even knowing that Vicky will not go for that, it's a bit of envy from Amy that Taylor has that freedom to even try. Amy doesn't think either of them have a shot, but at least Taylor can try. It's a bunch of conflicting resentments bubbling in her mind.
 
Wasn't this basically the same situation with Gallant and wasn't Amy exceedingly passive there?
Except it isn't. Because as a friend and a girl Taylor has far more social activities she and Vicky can do that Gallant and Vicky wouldn't do. If Taylor and Vicky have a sleep over no one would care. If Gallant and Vicky had one people would likely raise a few eyebrows.
 
Are we absolutely certain Coil is the one who messed with the PRT files? He would have seen the same power-negative results the PRT did on the locker day and probably would have lost interest in her then for the same reason Piggot did. He didn't send Lisa after her until Friday after the Shadow Stalker incident, demonstrating his lack of interest. He probed her for the first time on Saturday with the purse snatcher. He may have gotten a report on her from Boneyard, assuming Boneyard works for him.

What I don't see is any indication he found out about her problems at home before the PRT did. They didn't come up enough for Lisa's power to work between Friday and Monday. The PRT didn't know about them; Armsmaster's plan would have been called off if they did. So, he would have had to set up the hacking stuff before Piggot could submit the inquiry and after the Monday incident. Even with his resources within the PRT and a timeline as collateral, I'm suspicious with the timing. Also, I don't recall Lisa remotely altering PRT files in canon. Isn't that why the Undersiders had to break in and steal files in canon?

I suspect Cauldron. They should have already thoroughly researched Taylor; anything which can mess with Contessa's precog is priority one and they have the resources to investigate her without tipping anybody off. They have enough influence in the PRT and Protectorate to pull off the hacking trick and the foresight to set it up in advance. The biggest reason I suspect them is their threat level. We have no doubt that Taylor can and will crush Coil. The only question is when. Cauldron, on the other hand, can operate on the Phoenix's level as much as any non-Entity faction in Worm can.

I'm probably wrong. I don't know nearly enough about programming to judge the method used and gut feelings don't amount to squat in fields like that. The Social Services paperwork might not have been Piggot's first priority. Coil has a much clearer motive to isolate Taylor and keep her out of the Wards than Cauldron does. And Armsmaster seemed to discover the problem too soon for a Cauldron op. Even if the investigation doesn't reach Cauldron, it risks exposing Coil, and Cauldron is using him for their Parahuman feudalism experiment. The question is, do they consider Coil or Taylor more important?
 
Her fear is that Taylor is playing Nice Guy tm and acting like Vicky's friend in the hopes of getting in her pants (or PG level equivalent)
*Amy passing next to Vicky's open bedroom door sees Vicky on the phone*
Vicky: ... you sure liked being in my pants the other day Taylor. *teasingly*
Amy: I'M GONNA KILL TAYLOR HEBERT. *stomps off*
Vicky: wow, maybe I should have asked Amy if she wanted those skinny jeans before I gave them to Taylor.
 
At least 17 and legal to consent; I did my research. And I'm still waiting for a Super Mod to take my case over on SB because I called GG Glory Hole. Rule Nazis, the whole lot of 'em.
 
They are about a year older than Taylor, so 16 at the moment.
17-18; at the Bank Robbery Tattletale says Amy was adopted 11 years prior, and in Carrol's Interlude it is mentioned that both Amy and Victoria are 6. Given the unmentioned months and birthdays they are at least 17, though they could be 18.
 
At least 17 and legal to consent; I did my research. And I'm still waiting for a Super Mod to take my case over on SB because I called GG Glory Hole. Rule Nazis, the whole lot of 'em.
17 is not legal consent everywhere and for the purposes of this board 18 is the cutoff for stuff like that. Anything lower than that and the mods come down pretty hard.
 
Even the bible belt has parts where 17 is legal lol...

And Wtf on the Glory Hole thing? That's the most common insult to her name since this all started.
 
Because otherwise, I expect the soonest she can complete the process to get voluntarily discharged would be sometime in... July, 2013.
Not sure about that, if the PRT support her in getting Emancipated Minor status she should be able to get that a day after her 16th birthday, at which point her father wouldn't have the right to sign contracts in her name.
 
Well, something to remember for Coil is that he isn't hacking the system. He's likely having Lisa just legitimately access it with stolen information via her power. He's not really burning anything he isn't prepared to lose and can easily replace. There is no system glitch to fix, or hole in the programming. Lisa logs in just like she normally does under an Admin account and discreetly shuffles the paperwork around. If caught, then Coil is likely prepared to have the finger for it pointed somewhere expendable.

Because that is a thing from Canon. Lisa showed that she was perfectly capable of using her power to lift accounts, passwords, the whole she-bang so she could get into PRT/Protectorate files on a whim.
The thing about doing that is that in a network, remote access is something you need to enable. The fact that they had a remote access account with the privileges to do this kind of thing speaks of lazy administration.
 
Well, something to remember for Coil is that he isn't hacking the system. He's likely having Lisa just legitimately access it with stolen information via her power. He's not really burning anything he isn't prepared to lose and can easily replace. There is no system glitch to fix, or hole in the programming. Lisa logs in just like she normally does under an Admin account and discreetly shuffles the paperwork around. If caught, then Coil is likely prepared to have the finger for it pointed somewhere expendable.

Because that is a thing from Canon. Lisa showed that she was perfectly capable of using her power to lift accounts, passwords, the whole she-bang so she could get into PRT/Protectorate files on a whim.
That thing you described, where Lisa logs in under an account with the privileges she needs (that's certainly not for Lisa Wilbourn), is called hacking.
Also, it was explicitly called out that something in the system was changed to make this happen. Piggot sent the paperwork, but the system was changed so it wasn't routed anywhere (while still giving her "confirmation" it was).
 
The thing about doing that is that in a network, remote access is something you need to enable. The fact that they had a remote access account with the privileges to do this kind of thing speaks of lazy administration.
No, it speaks of the fact they're part of a nation wide network. When you have a network spread in dozens of locations you need to allow administrators to log in remotely, because you're going to have cases where the administrator needs to log in from a location 1000 miles away to fix a problem.
 
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