Fate/In Glory Of (Worm)
- Thread starter Jefardi
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- Crossover Modern Superhero
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- California
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"Bad Ends" tend to be contrived, because it's tempting to go for the most shocking outcome if it's not Canon anyway. In this case, its seems overly harsh for Amy to break her strict moral code to murder Taylor (to watch her die, in fact), when she could knock her out instantly and call the PRT. Plus the vote didnt mention revealing she fought the simurgh or manifesting the giant. You say the voters forgot about the wing but how can you know that?
I'll copy over some of the discussion that came from SB; she figured it was a ziz plot and she had two immediate choices; deal with it immediately or leave the room and Out Taylor to the Protectorate as a Ziz bomb which would then turn into a A-Class event. I... didn't want to have to write that. I literally realized when I gave Panpan as an option that I couldn't see a world where Panpan treats this with any amount of grey. WOG from Wildbow says Amy sees the world in extreme black and white morality. If we are a Ziz bomb that's free and across the world, keeping us alive would only give us more time to go off.
If it wasn't a Ziz plot, well, Amy was willing to roll the dice.
She decided to take the lesser evil even if it damns her. She doesn't have a great mentality already...
A little part of her, a tiny amount, is secretly happy that she did something other than heal. Another part is hoping that she may actually feel something other than overwhelming guilt at this.
Knocking out would have... been possibly more dangerous; Taylor mentioned her power was autonomous enough to get across the world; knocking out a Ziz bomb and have its power be given free reign would have sounded like activating the ziz bomb.
If you want to roll the dice and see what happens in a non-bad end you can vote for it. It IS still an option.
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QM addresses this on the SB side but with the discussion on that side it made sense.
Without the giant's reveal, Taylor has no proof of being a parahuman. Said giant is still holding the Simurgh Wing due to us currently lacking in a path to safely dispose of it.
And ninja'd
was about to go into a whole thing where us going to the PRT would restrict our own actions too lol
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It's more... if Taylor wins the vote to reveal she's a parahuman, I can't imagine her also not revealing her power. Like, logically, I can't see her doing a half measure.
[X] Taylor decides to stay safe in her anonymity.
Realistically, right now I think that Taylor's best bet is to get healed and to find out what the heck happened in the Simurgh fight. Obviously PHO is an option, but even without that Endbringer fights are national news - someone going as hard as the giant against the Simurgh is going to be commented on. We don't really know what everyone's reaction is.
For those who are surprised at the Bad End:
A) Panacea was possibly - even likely - there at Canberra. So it is likely she heard about the giant fighting the Simurgh.
B) Said giant went toe to toe with the Simurgh, completely ignoring the safety protocols - remember, this is a fight where you are supposed to only fight for a certain amount of time and then back away or else you are permanently modified by her psionic influence. It is very likely that the giant exceeded the safety timer.
C) Not sure how well known this is by capes, but the more emotionally compromised the individual, the more susceptible you are to the Simurgh's influence. Was the giant acting like a sane person?
Now, imagine you are Panacea.
Panacea suddenly finds out that a very vulnerable young girl about her age basically 'summons' this giant.
She has absolutely no idea whether or not the girl is compromised. She has no idea if the giant, itself, is compromised.
She is, theoretically at least, aware of what the giant is capable of. The idea of the giant being used as a Simurgh bomb is terrifying to her.
So... better to be safe. Knock her out.
This isn't a world where people can magically wave a wand and say "this person is free of the Simurgh's influence". There's a reason for the quarantine zones. Canonically Canberra was domed as a quarantine zone - she was there long enough that the entire city was a write-off.
I can very easily see a situation where Panacea knocks Taylor out, reports it to the PRT/Protectorate, and they make an executive decision to keep her in a coma. Of course, what the giant would do in that situation is up for grabs, since it does have a certain amount of autonomy. But whatever happened, it very likely would not end well for anyone.
Of course, while we can be pretty sure the giant and Taylor are, in fact, immune to the Simurgh, no one else wants to take that risk. And, for that matter, Taylor herself can't know for certain that the giant was immune... so she gets to deal with that particular nightmare of a thought. Fun times.
Realistically, right now I think that Taylor's best bet is to get healed and to find out what the heck happened in the Simurgh fight. Obviously PHO is an option, but even without that Endbringer fights are national news - someone going as hard as the giant against the Simurgh is going to be commented on. We don't really know what everyone's reaction is.
For those who are surprised at the Bad End:
A) Panacea was possibly - even likely - there at Canberra. So it is likely she heard about the giant fighting the Simurgh.
B) Said giant went toe to toe with the Simurgh, completely ignoring the safety protocols - remember, this is a fight where you are supposed to only fight for a certain amount of time and then back away or else you are permanently modified by her psionic influence. It is very likely that the giant exceeded the safety timer.
C) Not sure how well known this is by capes, but the more emotionally compromised the individual, the more susceptible you are to the Simurgh's influence. Was the giant acting like a sane person?
Now, imagine you are Panacea.
Panacea suddenly finds out that a very vulnerable young girl about her age basically 'summons' this giant.
She has absolutely no idea whether or not the girl is compromised. She has no idea if the giant, itself, is compromised.
She is, theoretically at least, aware of what the giant is capable of. The idea of the giant being used as a Simurgh bomb is terrifying to her.
So... better to be safe. Knock her out.
This isn't a world where people can magically wave a wand and say "this person is free of the Simurgh's influence". There's a reason for the quarantine zones. Canonically Canberra was domed as a quarantine zone - she was there long enough that the entire city was a write-off.
I can very easily see a situation where Panacea knocks Taylor out, reports it to the PRT/Protectorate, and they make an executive decision to keep her in a coma. Of course, what the giant would do in that situation is up for grabs, since it does have a certain amount of autonomy. But whatever happened, it very likely would not end well for anyone.
Of course, while we can be pretty sure the giant and Taylor are, in fact, immune to the Simurgh, no one else wants to take that risk. And, for that matter, Taylor herself can't know for certain that the giant was immune... so she gets to deal with that particular nightmare of a thought. Fun times.
- Location
- Oklahoma
[X] Taylor decides to stay safe in her anonymity.
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Well he did kill in front of a Hero. No one really saw him fighting Simurgh so nothing on that front really.
Deadweight Hero
I can't beat the demon lord help-
[X] Taylor decides to stay safe in her anonymity.
I need to point out you are probably the only person who will ever give a Funny reaction to this chapter and please know that I adore the fact you did.
I put a fair bit of effort into making it funny.
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Hey guys, I had a "Great Idea" of what to do with the Ziz wing.
We should send the Giant to kill Mama Mathers and Valefor with it. That would be great fun.
We should send the Giant to kill Mama Mathers and Valefor with it. That would be great fun.
Aureate
hello?
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- Information Team, L-Corporation
Taiga is best Sensei of course.
Who else would provide the essential comic relief?Taiga is best Sensei of course.
Senior student! Or maybe QA!
...there may be future guest appearances. Hopefully we won't see them but just in case...
Parodos 04.03c
[X] Taylor decides to stay safe in her anonymity.
Taylor shook her head.
In the end, Taylor valued her civilian identity more than anything. It was what was keeping herself, her dad and her friends separated from any of her caping endeavors, as nascent as they were.
Panacea lingered for a moment before starting to shuffle to the door.
The swung open almost soundlessly, only a 'swoosh' could be heard as it opened. Then came a rather loud 'thonk' accompanied by an almost impossible to hear 'crrk' as the door slammed into Panacea's face just as Nikki shouted; "I have returned!"
Of course that was over shadowed by the fact that Panacea had just been knocked to the ground and was clutching her face, letting out a low groan.
"Oh, hello. You should not be on the floor, even in an hospital it can be unsanitary." Nikki stated before turning back to Taylor, completely ignoring the two white-coated doctors rushing to help Panacea up from the ground- even her dad had made an abortive move to help her up. "Are you well?"
"Uh, ye- you- you knocked over Panacea!"
"I did. Perhaps she will not lurk outside doors from now on." Nikki hummed softly. "Forget her, are you okay?" the Russian girl reached up, soft hand gently resting against Taylor's cheek as she inspected Taylor's face.
"No, Ni-"
"What is wrong with you?!" Panacea was looking at Nikki, holding her nose which did little to hide the red coming out of it.
Nikki turned, regarding Panacea coldly. "You look injured, perhaps you should ask the nurses here to look at your nose?"
Panacea stared at Nikki.
The doctors stared at Nikki.
Her dad stared at Nikki.
Taylor stared at Nikki.
Nikki turned away from Panacea, her mood switching like a light switch. "I'm so glad you are okay Taylor! I was very worried when I heard you were in the hospital!"
"No, seriously, what the actual fuck is wrong with you?"
Nikki paused, a small tight frown on her face. She craned her head to look at Panacea, and she held her gaze on Panacea. "I apologise for hitting you with the door, but it was an accident."
"Nikki", Taylor hissed, eyes darting between the two, "you busted up her face!"
"The door is the one that did the busting." Nikki waved it away. "It was an accident, I apologized. I cannot fix her nose. Time will, and someone setting it."
Panacea muttered something nasally and angry sounding vaguely like 'unrepentant bitch' before stalking out of the room, one of the white-coated professionals following her like a duckling after it's mother. The other doctor started to discuss something with her dad who was giving her and Nikki the occasional look.
"That was really rude!" Taylor couldn't believe Nikki was that callous about hurting a hero, especially someone who had just healed her.
Nikki paused for a moment. Then she slowly nodded. "Perhaps. Perhaps I felt a bit of animosity towards her indifferent attitude towards your condition. Despite how it affected your father and I."
Gently Nikki took Taylor's hand into her own. It was warm and light grip. "I was… fearful for you."
Taylor sighed. There wasn't much she could really say to that. Still...
"Thanks."
Having someone who wasn't her family care for her gave her a kind of thrill that was heady.
Nikki gently rubbed the back of Taylor's hand with her thumb. "Did she state what had caused your collapse?"
The cause was still something she was having trouble wrapping her head around as she numbly stated, "mass simultaneous organ failure."
Nikki stared at her.
Nikki opened her mouth.
Nikki closed her mouth.
After a moment she tried again.
"Why?'
Taylor shrugged.
That was the question of the hour, wasn't it?
Perhaps the only reason she wasn't freaking out as much as everyone else was because she had a decent inkling on what the likely cause of the organ failure; power over-usage. Or at least she hoped that was the case. Perhaps a little self-delusional but… it made her less fearful of whatever that was from happening again. At least not without Taylor causing it intentionally.
"And she did not even know?" Nikki sent a truly venomous glance at the door the healer had left through, a smidgen of blood left on the handle.
"She was able to figure out the start point of the headache that was right before it happened but, uh, I think she said something along the lines of it was disconnected from the rest."
Taylor glanced at the door.
"She was stumped."
Nikki's frown deepened, it looked out of place on the girl's face. "I should have ignored your father and hired Limbsmaster to look you over instead of relying on Panacea."
Taylor blinked.
"What?"
"I was very close to hiring Limbsmaster to come and inspect your health after the doctors shrugged their shoulders for the sixth time. Your father disagreed due to the price and that he did not trust Limbsmaster, who he implied was a 'back alley surgeon'. As if I would let someone like that operate on you." Nikki huffed. "I checked, she is certified by the PRT."
This wasn't borderline creepy or possessive behaviour that her mom had warned her about when she dated, no siree! Or the fact that she had tried to talk to her dad about getting her removed from the hospital. Nope, nope, nope. Maybe things were done differently in Russia, but here and now, that was super sketchy.
Taylor put that in a 'think about it later' box.
"Just because Limbsmaster helped Joanna doesn't mean I should have seen someone who specializes in replacing limbs."
"She does organs too." Nikki noted. "Trust me, Taylor, I researched everything I could about possible nearby healers while you were unconscious."
Nikki was being defensive, was it because Limbsmaster is her favourite cape? It was something Taylor still didn't understand- she had seen the cape in person and she had been kind of disconcerting.
The cape had made Taylor feel like she wanted to harvest her hair.
Creepy.
"I know she's your favourite cape, but I'd rather have the most potent healer in the city take a look at me." That was the most neutral answer she could give. The diplomatic answer.
"It's the matter of motivation." Nikki stated, cocking her head to the side. "Limbsmaster would be motivated by money, making her more likely to care. Panacea came because it was breaking up her monotony."
Taylor was getting a distinct impression that Nikki might arrange to have Panacea 's kneecaps broken... Somehow.
Nikki shook her head. "It does not matter now. I am simply happy you are seemingly in better health now."
"Yeah. She healed my insides." Taylor had a soft smile. She didn't realize how much had actually been hurting until it went away- she didn't even realize that everything was hurting, like her existence was being condensed. "I feel a lot better." The smile became a lot more shaky as she added, "hopefully it doesn't happen again?"
Unsaid to anyone but herself was the fact that Taylor had probably caused it to herself and she had a distinct heavy feeling in her gut she would do it again.
"I'll be there for you." Nikki noted, not a promise, a certainty. "If it ever does happen again."
Well, that was something at least.
Taylor had some time with Nikki before she had to leave. It was nice. The rest of her was spent going through a battery of tests that the experts that work with Panacea decided on.
In between these tests, Taylor…
[] ...did some cape research on her phone including whatever people said about Canberra.
[] ...got out of her room and stretched her legs [Rolls on the random hospital social encounter table]
Author's note: I'm excited for either option to win.
Well, Nikki is sure a thing. Yay? I'm realizing this looks like me hating Panpan when I don't. I swear. Blame my editor.
I got three chapters out in a week! Huzzah!
That discussion for last chapter got interesting.
Please vote and discuss!
Taylor shook her head.
In the end, Taylor valued her civilian identity more than anything. It was what was keeping herself, her dad and her friends separated from any of her caping endeavors, as nascent as they were.
Panacea lingered for a moment before starting to shuffle to the door.
The swung open almost soundlessly, only a 'swoosh' could be heard as it opened. Then came a rather loud 'thonk' accompanied by an almost impossible to hear 'crrk' as the door slammed into Panacea's face just as Nikki shouted; "I have returned!"
Of course that was over shadowed by the fact that Panacea had just been knocked to the ground and was clutching her face, letting out a low groan.
"Oh, hello. You should not be on the floor, even in an hospital it can be unsanitary." Nikki stated before turning back to Taylor, completely ignoring the two white-coated doctors rushing to help Panacea up from the ground- even her dad had made an abortive move to help her up. "Are you well?"
"Uh, ye- you- you knocked over Panacea!"
"I did. Perhaps she will not lurk outside doors from now on." Nikki hummed softly. "Forget her, are you okay?" the Russian girl reached up, soft hand gently resting against Taylor's cheek as she inspected Taylor's face.
"No, Ni-"
"What is wrong with you?!" Panacea was looking at Nikki, holding her nose which did little to hide the red coming out of it.
Nikki turned, regarding Panacea coldly. "You look injured, perhaps you should ask the nurses here to look at your nose?"
Panacea stared at Nikki.
The doctors stared at Nikki.
Her dad stared at Nikki.
Taylor stared at Nikki.
Nikki turned away from Panacea, her mood switching like a light switch. "I'm so glad you are okay Taylor! I was very worried when I heard you were in the hospital!"
"No, seriously, what the actual fuck is wrong with you?"
Nikki paused, a small tight frown on her face. She craned her head to look at Panacea, and she held her gaze on Panacea. "I apologise for hitting you with the door, but it was an accident."
"Nikki", Taylor hissed, eyes darting between the two, "you busted up her face!"
"The door is the one that did the busting." Nikki waved it away. "It was an accident, I apologized. I cannot fix her nose. Time will, and someone setting it."
Panacea muttered something nasally and angry sounding vaguely like 'unrepentant bitch' before stalking out of the room, one of the white-coated professionals following her like a duckling after it's mother. The other doctor started to discuss something with her dad who was giving her and Nikki the occasional look.
"That was really rude!" Taylor couldn't believe Nikki was that callous about hurting a hero, especially someone who had just healed her.
Nikki paused for a moment. Then she slowly nodded. "Perhaps. Perhaps I felt a bit of animosity towards her indifferent attitude towards your condition. Despite how it affected your father and I."
Gently Nikki took Taylor's hand into her own. It was warm and light grip. "I was… fearful for you."
Taylor sighed. There wasn't much she could really say to that. Still...
"Thanks."
Having someone who wasn't her family care for her gave her a kind of thrill that was heady.
Nikki gently rubbed the back of Taylor's hand with her thumb. "Did she state what had caused your collapse?"
The cause was still something she was having trouble wrapping her head around as she numbly stated, "mass simultaneous organ failure."
Nikki stared at her.
Nikki opened her mouth.
Nikki closed her mouth.
After a moment she tried again.
"Why?'
Taylor shrugged.
That was the question of the hour, wasn't it?
Perhaps the only reason she wasn't freaking out as much as everyone else was because she had a decent inkling on what the likely cause of the organ failure; power over-usage. Or at least she hoped that was the case. Perhaps a little self-delusional but… it made her less fearful of whatever that was from happening again. At least not without Taylor causing it intentionally.
"And she did not even know?" Nikki sent a truly venomous glance at the door the healer had left through, a smidgen of blood left on the handle.
"She was able to figure out the start point of the headache that was right before it happened but, uh, I think she said something along the lines of it was disconnected from the rest."
Taylor glanced at the door.
"She was stumped."
Nikki's frown deepened, it looked out of place on the girl's face. "I should have ignored your father and hired Limbsmaster to look you over instead of relying on Panacea."
Taylor blinked.
"What?"
"I was very close to hiring Limbsmaster to come and inspect your health after the doctors shrugged their shoulders for the sixth time. Your father disagreed due to the price and that he did not trust Limbsmaster, who he implied was a 'back alley surgeon'. As if I would let someone like that operate on you." Nikki huffed. "I checked, she is certified by the PRT."
This wasn't borderline creepy or possessive behaviour that her mom had warned her about when she dated, no siree! Or the fact that she had tried to talk to her dad about getting her removed from the hospital. Nope, nope, nope. Maybe things were done differently in Russia, but here and now, that was super sketchy.
Taylor put that in a 'think about it later' box.
"Just because Limbsmaster helped Joanna doesn't mean I should have seen someone who specializes in replacing limbs."
"She does organs too." Nikki noted. "Trust me, Taylor, I researched everything I could about possible nearby healers while you were unconscious."
Nikki was being defensive, was it because Limbsmaster is her favourite cape? It was something Taylor still didn't understand- she had seen the cape in person and she had been kind of disconcerting.
The cape had made Taylor feel like she wanted to harvest her hair.
Creepy.
"I know she's your favourite cape, but I'd rather have the most potent healer in the city take a look at me." That was the most neutral answer she could give. The diplomatic answer.
"It's the matter of motivation." Nikki stated, cocking her head to the side. "Limbsmaster would be motivated by money, making her more likely to care. Panacea came because it was breaking up her monotony."
Taylor was getting a distinct impression that Nikki might arrange to have Panacea 's kneecaps broken... Somehow.
Nikki shook her head. "It does not matter now. I am simply happy you are seemingly in better health now."
"Yeah. She healed my insides." Taylor had a soft smile. She didn't realize how much had actually been hurting until it went away- she didn't even realize that everything was hurting, like her existence was being condensed. "I feel a lot better." The smile became a lot more shaky as she added, "hopefully it doesn't happen again?"
Unsaid to anyone but herself was the fact that Taylor had probably caused it to herself and she had a distinct heavy feeling in her gut she would do it again.
"I'll be there for you." Nikki noted, not a promise, a certainty. "If it ever does happen again."
Well, that was something at least.
Taylor had some time with Nikki before she had to leave. It was nice. The rest of her was spent going through a battery of tests that the experts that work with Panacea decided on.
In between these tests, Taylor…
[] ...did some cape research on her phone including whatever people said about Canberra.
[] ...got out of her room and stretched her legs [Rolls on the random hospital social encounter table]
Author's note: I'm excited for either option to win.
Well, Nikki is sure a thing. Yay? I'm realizing this looks like me hating Panpan when I don't. I swear. Blame my editor.
I got three chapters out in a week! Huzzah!
That discussion for last chapter got interesting.
Please vote and discuss!
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Iris-Iven-Ibis
Interested-Idiot-Immortal
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I love Nikki, best character!
SaberFail
All Ideas. No Skills. a bit hungry
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I'm seeing double!!
[X] ...got out of her room and stretched her legs [Rolls on the random hospital social encounter table]
Go socialize Taylor!
Iris-Iven-Ibis
Interested-Idiot-Immortal
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- You know
[X] ...did some cape research on her phone including whatever people said about Canberra.
Good catch.
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I love this girl.
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[X] ...did some cape research on her phone including whatever people said about Canberra.
We're gonna be seeing the repercussions in regards to how people react to the giant now.
We're gonna be seeing the repercussions in regards to how people react to the giant now.