[Exalted, ?] Most High
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Driven by Apathy
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Ah, damnit. I liked that aspect of Exalted. My personal headcanon was always that there were actually considerably fewer of them than Terrestrials due to mortals with awakened Essence not only still being weaker individually but also not occuring "naturally", but if that ever were to change (be it because of the efforts of some Exalted or because some innovative culture in some forgotten corner of Creation decided to try something new) it might be the beginning of a new era.
Enlightened mortals no longer being a thing makes the setting poorer IMHO. But in any case, if that's not an option then that means Shining Metropolis is probably not a good idea. Soft power is all nice and well, but with the Realm so close to civil war we need something with more dakka as our personal demesne.
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Fancy Face
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[X] The Seat of Empire
At last, the time has come! We have our power base, now let us unleash the full power of the general who brought the Yozi to heel. No more a mere governor of subject territories, but a God-King in their own right and rule once more! Expand our borders and carve a domain to rival the established powers! Turn this once doomed city into the gem of our empire, our Miklagard. Let the various chosen of the Exaltations come to swear fealty, or come to face us in the fullness of our power.
At last, the time has come! We have our power base, now let us unleash the full power of the general who brought the Yozi to heel. No more a mere governor of subject territories, but a God-King in their own right and rule once more! Expand our borders and carve a domain to rival the established powers! Turn this once doomed city into the gem of our empire, our Miklagard. Let the various chosen of the Exaltations come to swear fealty, or come to face us in the fullness of our power.
[X] The Shining Metropolis
Like this the best for now.
Like this the best for now.
VanusDraco
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[X] The Seat of Empires
Why did we choose Lord Stratego if we are just gonna sit behind a city wall and crank out artifacts.
We are the Dawn of a new age, not a twilight craftsman.
Why did we choose Lord Stratego if we are just gonna sit behind a city wall and crank out artifacts.
We are the Dawn of a new age, not a twilight craftsman.
Fancy Face
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MS Paint edits are technically fanworks, right?
Eh, I'll need it if we're going to be sticking with Luseng for a while.
] The Seat of Empire
-[X] Call in Nelel
Okay what is most likely to be the most optimal choice available here would be to go military, call in our friendly neighborhood ebon dragon exalt. The idea here being we use her to leash the exalts to us, and basically everything else in the empire really to our chariot. New Celestial Exalts, our government, our people even. Basically we need to call in a social expert to tie everyone to us. Running an exalted game alone has so far been proven to be a really stupid choice for us. We keep on coming up against optimized builds that also have suitable back up at their level. We shouldn't be purposefully screwing over our chances like this by not having a social focused celestial level exalt on our side at this point. We already cover 2 out of the 3 main sections of skill by our lonesome by this point rather well. Now we need to actually power level our broad abilities so we can fight at a higher level of ability.
Once we have carved out a suitably large empire though I can see us redirecting efforts to basically build up defenses and set up proper city planning for more long term growth then just mongal hording this side of creation.
-[X] Call in Nelel
Okay what is most likely to be the most optimal choice available here would be to go military, call in our friendly neighborhood ebon dragon exalt. The idea here being we use her to leash the exalts to us, and basically everything else in the empire really to our chariot. New Celestial Exalts, our government, our people even. Basically we need to call in a social expert to tie everyone to us. Running an exalted game alone has so far been proven to be a really stupid choice for us. We keep on coming up against optimized builds that also have suitable back up at their level. We shouldn't be purposefully screwing over our chances like this by not having a social focused celestial level exalt on our side at this point. We already cover 2 out of the 3 main sections of skill by our lonesome by this point rather well. Now we need to actually power level our broad abilities so we can fight at a higher level of ability.
Once we have carved out a suitably large empire though I can see us redirecting efforts to basically build up defenses and set up proper city planning for more long term growth then just mongal hording this side of creation.
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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Alright, I'm going to vote for
[x] The Polis of Legend
for now.
Largely, because it puts us in an excellent defensive position, and means that we aren't leaving the BIGHUGE JADE to our enemies. Plus, since this is the 'recruit Outcastes' option, I think the odds of us getting more DBs who've heard of Odyssial Cults is possible. They're seeded everywhere after all, by casting a wide net we'll get more like Void Scar or perhaps even one or two who left an actual tribe! Though granted if they LEFT and abandoned said worship that would probably have negative repercussions in our attempts to portray Ulyssian as Odyssial. Still make for good story fodder though.
I am up for switching to the Shining Metropolis though if the option allows us to stop a Deathlord, a Fair Folk Freehold, and a Lunar army of beastmen from getting access to whatever that Huge Mountain of Doom is.
[x] The Polis of Legend
for now.
Largely, because it puts us in an excellent defensive position, and means that we aren't leaving the BIGHUGE JADE to our enemies. Plus, since this is the 'recruit Outcastes' option, I think the odds of us getting more DBs who've heard of Odyssial Cults is possible. They're seeded everywhere after all, by casting a wide net we'll get more like Void Scar or perhaps even one or two who left an actual tribe! Though granted if they LEFT and abandoned said worship that would probably have negative repercussions in our attempts to portray Ulyssian as Odyssial. Still make for good story fodder though.
I am up for switching to the Shining Metropolis though if the option allows us to stop a Deathlord, a Fair Folk Freehold, and a Lunar army of beastmen from getting access to whatever that Huge Mountain of Doom is.
Guys whatever we do; take note of this: We aren't supposed to take on every freaking hurdle by our self. So whatever happens? We need to call in back up finally. Specifically back up in social. We already handily cover the other 2/3rds of the character sheet with how our character is built but no more. We now need to focus on improving in one area. Its not like we have a helmet that specializes in social evocations that we can rely on here. We need to actually have something we are good at. This lack of focus is really harming us here.
I feel that way with a lot of choices in Rihaku's quests.
In fact if I don't vote that is probably why.
Is it reasonable to assume that all options will still involve military action against the Fae and Deathlord due to them being enemies of creation but it would be focused on destroying their elites rather than claiming territory if we don't choose the Seat of the Empire option.
Part of why I am voting for seat of power is also because its a great way to search the local area to locate any stockpiles we may have left behind. We are supposed to be mongol hording with this option. Conquering, taking supplies and then moving on. Its a great way to search for Odyssial stockpiles. And again I emphasis we need our Ebon dragon friend here. Once we conquer a place we can get vows of loyalty for us. We make some predictions for how they should build up and have them follow it and then we move on and do it again in the next place. Having oaths of loyalty kept along with a social monster working to cement our control goes a long way to improving our odds of survival here. I want to call in more if we can especially moon but right now but I'm not sure we can get it. To bad we don't have anyone with sorcery as a friend right now... we could use the long distance traveling ability to set up multiple armies and go from one to another to speed up the process even further. Would probably have to have them all going in the same direction of course but fast travel could help a lot with the land acquisition.
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[X]The Shining Metropolis
With this, we can plan to discredit the Immaculate faith, while making it harder for Syn to withdraw us.
With this, we can plan to discredit the Immaculate faith, while making it harder for Syn to withdraw us.
[X]The Shining Metropolis
I prefer to consolidate before extending. It would make our position extremely difficult to attack, while also helping to ensure the loyalty of Luseng. With strategic resources like the mountain, as well as prophet, we already can affect Creation without needing an army.
Also, it should get us the support of House Nellen.
I prefer to consolidate before extending. It would make our position extremely difficult to attack, while also helping to ensure the loyalty of Luseng. With strategic resources like the mountain, as well as prophet, we already can affect Creation without needing an army.
Also, it should get us the support of House Nellen.
Emerald Oracle
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It doesn't. We expand enough to grab important strategic resources and stop.
See bold sentence.
[X] The Shining Metropolis - Some merely conquer. You will rule. Luseng is rich enough that you truly do not need much territory to create something truly spectacular, and Uncle Pan is a City Father, not a Nation Father. Secure certain strategic objectives like Ausang Bu and the Emerald Mountain, but otherwise you are content with the already fairly massive land area you've reclaimed. Build out the urban centers, turn those refugees into long-standing citizens, and reach a pinnacle of trade, culture, and erudition such as this benighted age has never before seen. You may rule only one city, but it will be the greatest city in all Creation, a city without peer. Odyssial would not accept less. Uncle Pan will not accept less (though he might have to deal)!
I like the idea of us having a powerful seat of power to consolidate our allies and resources. The influence we create here will let us effect the realm politically and financially while the information we can collect allows us to spam prophesies wherever we feel the need for them.
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An advantage of conquest approach is that we get realm level power in the form of celestials. And that leaves open the possibility of using them to deep strike at anys and potentially disrupt the immaculate faith and then sweep both.
The other two leave very vulnerable to whatever political chickenary she cooks up, and as the secret puppet master of the immaculate there is a LOT of it she can cook up
Actually, can we have a 4th option where our goal is to "stabilize the city while focusing all our effort on immaculate heresy"?
The other two leave very vulnerable to whatever political chickenary she cooks up, and as the secret puppet master of the immaculate there is a LOT of it she can cook up
Actually, can we have a 4th option where our goal is to "stabilize the city while focusing all our effort on immaculate heresy"?
Emerald Oracle
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Sweet deal! Right then I'm changing my vote!
[X] The Shining Metropolis
Alectai
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Thing is, Shining Metropolis gives us the time and leisure to fuck her over with our Prophecies, and prevent her from consolidating power, while we basically remain completely untouchable from an open perspective (Because holy shit we just turned this situation right the fuck around). Nellens will love us for this, our reputation remains excellent, and more importantly, we have a kernel of being fucking invincible, at the cost of allowing our rivals the initative--but given how we've evidently successfully seized the most critical locations in this option (The Jade Mountain in particular is critical), we've likely denied them the greatest prize of the Satrapy.
The Seat of Empire retains the initative, but at the cost of risking overextending ourselves badly--we're already at the limit of what we can efficiently hold at this point with our available forces, and while we draw more Celestial Exalted power to us in this option, we also risk pushing the Anys Syn Desperation Button again before we're ready to weather the shitstorm. In short, it works out just fine as long as nothing goes wrong in the early stages.
Since Polis seems to be on the backfoot, for now, I'll go with
[X] The Shining Metropolis
Admittedly, my bias towards building Tall as opposed to Wide is showing here.
That being said, for all intents and purposes, this was basically a tie with The Polis of Legend. But it doesn't seem to be getting much traction yet.
The Seat of Empire retains the initative, but at the cost of risking overextending ourselves badly--we're already at the limit of what we can efficiently hold at this point with our available forces, and while we draw more Celestial Exalted power to us in this option, we also risk pushing the Anys Syn Desperation Button again before we're ready to weather the shitstorm. In short, it works out just fine as long as nothing goes wrong in the early stages.
Since Polis seems to be on the backfoot, for now, I'll go with
[X] The Shining Metropolis
Admittedly, my bias towards building Tall as opposed to Wide is showing here.
That being said, for all intents and purposes, this was basically a tie with The Polis of Legend. But it doesn't seem to be getting much traction yet.
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[X] The Shining Metropolis - Some merely conquer. You will rule. Luseng is rich enough that you truly do not need much territory to create something truly spectacular, and Uncle Pan is a City Father, not a Nation Father. Secure certain strategic objectives like Ausang Bu and the Emerald Mountain, but otherwise you are content with the already fairly massive land area you've reclaimed. Build out the urban centers, turn those refugees into long-standing citizens, and reach a pinnacle of trade, culture, and erudition such as this benighted age has never before seen. You may rule only one city, but it will be the greatest city in all Creation, a city without peer. Odyssial would not accept less. Uncle Pan will not accept less (though he might have to deal)!
Deadly Snark
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[X]The Shining Metropolis
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What is your analysis on The Polis of Legend?
Also, which do you think we could better leverage for perpetuating immaculate heresy, the polis of legend of the shining metropolis?