And we will cut them down like wheat. At this point, only the Exalts matter and we have access to a number of Dragon-Bloods of our own. Dragon-Bloods that are loyal to us if our minders doesn't get the chance to turn them.
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And we will cut them down like wheat. At this point, only the Exalts matter and we have access to a number of Dragon-Bloods of our own. Dragon-Bloods that are loyal to us if our minders doesn't get the chance to turn them.
sure, whatever, Ulyssian wins at everything forever, bitches loves him, and all his enemies fall before him as he dual wield Away and Ambition
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
... You think trying to stop an impossible force is Boring?
Wearing away even a percent of a percent of Syn's power will have far greater effect to our survival and eventual usurpation of the realm than adding one more boost to Zao's navy. Rihaku has already said the navy will be damn near useless to us in the near future and in my view Heresy vastly trumps Scarlet Flag in long term gains for our faction and losses for Syn's faction.
We'll be stopping them regardless. If we wanted to stop 3 invasion we would have chosen the Three Kingdom Option. Instead we have Scarlet Flag and Prophecy neither of which directly improve our odds fighting these three factions. These options either hurts Ayn or Buff Zao.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Useful for our Immediate purposes
It's strategic value is great, and it would at least guarantee our supply lines remain open.
The problem is we don't have the time or attention to keep the Heresy chugging.
nah man, just nail down a scroll of 95 theses on everyone's door, I'm sure it'd work out exactly as everyone planned and hoped
We will if we don't have to waste time to deal with the intrigue coming from our minders or trying to compete with them for loyalty of local forces. Just kill them now.
Yeah, as for us taking boring actions... I'm really not seeing it? We just accepted a bloody suicide mission. In any case, I don't consider 'for the lulz' to be a very useful argument, no matter what we've done in the past, especially when the benefits of Heresy will take a long time germinate and will require active reinforcement, which will detract from our efforts in Luseng.
We'll be doing it anyway, though, I believe.
Plus, I'm not saying that the other option is fundamentally boring, just that the previous decisions have been slowly boring me to death, and I'd rather like to throw more plot points and danger into the mix if possible.
Edit: I mean really, to illustrate my point, we chose to do homework instead of sneaking into Heaven. What kind of choice is that?
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
They have three armies to our one, each of which they were confident could defeat the Legion in residence. Presumably their armies are made up of monstrosities in Lunar, undead and Wyld flavors.
We're strong for an E4. The Abyssals have a Circle, and the ghost of a First Age Solar leading them. The Lunar is an E5 'semi-Elder', meaning he's probably been around for 1000+ years. We don't know what the Raksha are fielding, but it's presumably equal to the other two.
The Fae will be coming right for the capital, to put it to the torch. The Deathlord and the Lunar are aiming for the jade mountain.
I'm very worried that we're going to get an either/or choice: save the city or save the thaumaturgical wonder, and let the other one burn.
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CrossyCross
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[X] The Grand Heretical Prophecy
I suppose the Deathlord and her Abyssals will just vanish, then? The Raksha freehold and Lunar horde will dispose of themselves? Face it, Luseng is going to require our complete and undivided attention; we can't spare the time to dole out a daily dose of prophecy to forestall Anys' plans. Easier and less time consuming to just buff Zao now, preventing her from eroding the influence of our allies.
I don't mind, I already know I'll vote save the thaumaturgical wonder.
Yeah, but we have at least 20 Exalts on our side. 20 Exalts led by a peerless strategic mind who is probably the strongest Solar alive.
I find your lack of vision...disturbing. Winning here is just winning one battle. To win the war we need to undermine Anys. Focusing solely on this area is just what Anys want. Let's not play that game.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
How do you expect to win the war if we're overcome in the battle? Because we split our focus too much between "Not Dying" and "Undermining Anys Syn"
Trying solely to win the battle will mean we win the battle but loose the war.
A pragmatic one? We also chose to enter into a tournament of the finest warriors in all the Realm; not sneaking into Yu Shan on top of that was just us choosing not to spread ourselves too thin.
We already chose not to focus solely of Luseng, though. That was decided when Three Kingdoms lost; I note you're not disputing the fact that Grand Heretical explicitly distracts from our objectives here, while Scarlet Flag takes less of our precious time and energy.
The Scarlet Flag will barely help us in this particular situation as we have plenty of other avenues to take advantage of where as Herteical will help us start eroding at Syns base and make some of her supporters our own. We are going to win this with or without the Scarlet Flag where as the struggle for the greater Realm will benefit orders of magnitude more from Heretical than from Sclarlet Flag as it has been presented.
Scarlet Flag just mean Zao's support doesn't diminish. It doesn't help us win as it simply secure a safety net. Prophecy will bring us closer to victory whereas Scarlet brings us further from defeat but no closer to victory.
The question is whether we want to win or let Ayn find some other way to nickel and dime us to death while our back is turned. I for one vote for metaphorically punching her in the face for even trying.
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
DBs just don't have the chops to take on Solaroids in most situations, as I think we've proven rather well throughout this quest.
We could kill 5 expert DBs in less than that many seconds, and that was before all this Wake the Sleeper nonsense.
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Scarlet Flag also gets Ulyssian naval support, and we can probably stunt how that works. Perhaps a wave of marines or two on can be seconded to him under the table? We have 20 odd exalts, imagine what we might be able to do with more, trained to work as a unit!