Rihaku
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You might not have to wait for long... if you survive to get it.
[Exalted, ?] Most High
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You might not have to wait for long... if you survive to get it.
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Continuing to be complacent and arrogant about the capabilities and intentions of the Elder Sidereal who has completely upended the Quest will, I'm sure, not at all lead to regrettable consequences down the line. Whatever. Also it's probably going to be a damned long time before I do another write-in; no point continuing to waste my time there.
Again we can't really specifically plan anything until the next update given how much shit can change with a single update. Recent Examples Killing Polemgaos and this situation.
We can make a general plan and fill in the specifics to adapt to the situation.
Rihaku
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Guys, we do need to decide which Title to get before I can update.
Knight of Futility, eh? I was rooting for the Civil War, but this one looks rough. You were victorious at negotiating with the Infernals, though.
Yup, psuedo-spammable nation-scale Sidereal Astrology that relies on sheer competence instead of Fate is a great thing.
I think the plan is for you guys to rebel, politically or overtly, if she does that. The success probability of that plan... well, depends on a lot of stuff.
Indeed. She is unlikely to directly attack Zao unless she is desperate. He's too powerful to take on alone!
The Navy could always have survived without Zao; he's not leading it, he's a Headmaster at their training academy. It would be diminished, but it would go on in some form, even if the Realm had to pump blood and money at horrendous rates to do so.
You have to admit, the mental image is hilarious, though.
Well, she may have told the House Heads and Mouth that you were a secret Anathema, but too powerful to directly kill, or that you actually have the disfavor of the Dragons, but are too powerful to directly kill - or she could have used a mix of stories. All those misdirections have their problems, but not ones that can't be contained.
Hey, what'd the Gardener ever do to you!? They're a perfectly upstanding citizen of the world. One of the most inoffensive Deathlords! Haven't even been seen in over a century!
Knight of Futility, eh? I was rooting for the Civil War, but this one looks rough. You were victorious at negotiating with the Infernals, though.
Yup, psuedo-spammable nation-scale Sidereal Astrology that relies on sheer competence instead of Fate is a great thing.
I think the plan is for you guys to rebel, politically or overtly, if she does that. The success probability of that plan... well, depends on a lot of stuff.
Indeed. She is unlikely to directly attack Zao unless she is desperate. He's too powerful to take on alone!
The Navy could always have survived without Zao; he's not leading it, he's a Headmaster at their training academy. It would be diminished, but it would go on in some form, even if the Realm had to pump blood and money at horrendous rates to do so.
You have to admit, the mental image is hilarious, though.
Well, she may have told the House Heads and Mouth that you were a secret Anathema, but too powerful to directly kill, or that you actually have the disfavor of the Dragons, but are too powerful to directly kill - or she could have used a mix of stories. All those misdirections have their problems, but not ones that can't be contained.
Hey, what'd the Gardener ever do to you!? They're a perfectly upstanding citizen of the world. One of the most inoffensive Deathlords! Haven't even been seen in over a century!
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I'm with Cavalier on this. We can't let Ayn nickle and dime us to death. We have to be proactive and the first step to acting proactively is to not play her game. Play out game.
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[X] Immortal Commander
What can I say, I'm a cheapskate. Unless we can still get the discount later. Then I totally support getting Wake the Sleeper.
What can I say, I'm a cheapskate. Unless we can still get the discount later. Then I totally support getting Wake the Sleeper.
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It looks like Wake the Sleeper is winning quite handily.
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[X] Wake the Sleeper
No. of votes: 14
trekbook, 1986ctcel, BSRK Aditya, Robotninja, Brekouh, Guile, Serous, SirLagginton, Usernames, Ridiculously Average Guy, CrawlingChaos74, Valor, veekie, cyberswordsmen
[X] Immortal Commander
No. of votes: 6
Alectai, Pipeman, meianmaru, Van Ropen, Emerald Oracle, Anasurimbor
[X] Absolutely Unbreakable
No. of votes: 4
me.me.here, Orm Embar, Reckless_Sun, Diller
Rihaku
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Seriously guys. Pick a Title.
The discount is from having training time, so you should eventually be able to get it, since War God Descendent is not a pre-req for Ideal Battle Knowledge Prana.
The discount is from having training time, so you should eventually be able to get it, since War God Descendent is not a pre-req for Ideal Battle Knowledge Prana.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I've already made my vote, and explained my reasoning why I consider Immortal Commander to be a better choice!
But if we're looking at pure numbers, Wake the Sleeper beats both of the competitors together.
Rihaku
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I know Wake the Sleeper is ahead on votes, but most of the arguments for it are mine, which don't count. So right now we're kind of deadlocked.
Yes, you have indeed done your part!
Yes, you have indeed done your part!
Well, she may be a perfectly nice woman, but her deathknights? They came to the wrong neighborhood.
... also, why is the Gardener being referred to as multiple people?
Nobody wants to let Anys shuffle us from problem to problem until we fail, but that's not a guaranteed result of accepting the posting; if we succeed in Luseng we can give Zao time to work against her within the Realm, possibly by doing something like forging an alliance with Mnemon when it becomes clear that 'Hesiesh' does not intend for Little Red for the throne.
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[X] Luseng
[X] Keep Ambition
[X] Immortal Commander
[X] Keep Ambition
[X] Immortal Commander
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I have zero fucks to give about what Title Ulyssian picks. But whatever...
[X] Absolutely Unbreakable
Oh hey we're facing Raksha and a Deathlord because I lost. Know what they tend to have a lot of? Fuck you you lose if you don't have a decent Shaping defense effects. Ulyssian being utterly immune to Shenanigans and only engageable by direct force suits his path thus far. Willpower is also incredibly valuable to Ulyssian's fighting style so better regen means more personal power which is what is needed to deal with behemoths and Warstriders and so on.
More Wake the Sleeper is less valuable without giving up Ambition; since we have Ambition and everything we have revolves around it, why bother with WtS now?
Immortal Commander is generally exceeding useful but if we get that we'd have to wind up flash-buying some anti-Shaping thing or other, probably.
[X] Absolutely Unbreakable
Oh hey we're facing Raksha and a Deathlord because I lost. Know what they tend to have a lot of? Fuck you you lose if you don't have a decent Shaping defense effects. Ulyssian being utterly immune to Shenanigans and only engageable by direct force suits his path thus far. Willpower is also incredibly valuable to Ulyssian's fighting style so better regen means more personal power which is what is needed to deal with behemoths and Warstriders and so on.
More Wake the Sleeper is less valuable without giving up Ambition; since we have Ambition and everything we have revolves around it, why bother with WtS now?
Immortal Commander is generally exceeding useful but if we get that we'd have to wind up flash-buying some anti-Shaping thing or other, probably.
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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But you argued so well and so forthrightly! Truly you are a victim of your own effectiveness!
Rihaku
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I want people to pick a Title because they WANT it or it sounds cool to them, not because I endorse it!
Facing Deathknights and Raksha without an ironclad immunity to their most potent mind-twisting powers is a foolhardy proposition, to put it mildly, and we'll need all the staying power we can possibly muster against a three-pronged foe. Plus, the option carries the name of Odyssial's old anima power, which just makes it seem like the most in-character thing to choose. Unceasing perpetuity of will always was his defining attribute.
Bit difficult to make already covered arguments
Even if I'm not on mobile, at work
Rihaku
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If I eliminated Unbreakable, which one would you pick?
Wake the Sleeper. Seems a bit dishonest to oppose Sorcery in favor of pursuing it, and then discard the option when presented; I'm mainly concerned with surviving Luseng, and Wake seems the second most likely to help us achieve that.
Windlass
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You can't make me! Seriously though I'm not confident in my knowledge of the nitty-gritty stuff... but if you insist:
[X] Absolutely Unbreakable
Because it sounds cool. You see what you've done? When you force me to vote, I do so for the silliest reasons.
[X] Luseng
[X] Keep Ambition
[X] Absolutely Unbreakable
Haha, Raksha, suck it!
[X] Keep Ambition
[X] Absolutely Unbreakable
Haha, Raksha, suck it!
I would also pick WtS over Immortal Commander, although I do have a question. If we use Sleeper on Zao's armor and than trade it up for the 5 dot armor that's floating around somewhere does Sleeper reset/do we get xp refunded for evocations gotten through Sleeper?
Edit: Unbreakable is still my first choice, though.
Edit: Unbreakable is still my first choice, though.
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[X] Absolutely Unbreakable
Willpower regen is always good
Willpower regen is always good
Rihaku
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No, though it looks like you are going to use WtS on Ambition if it wins.
Personally I'm fine with either WtS or Unbreakable. Its just that the advantage of WtS need us to buy all 3 charms to make use of, while the benefits of Unbreakable are split up, so we can still benefit from them partially even if we only flash buy one or two charms. I'm assume Unbreakable buys IPP. Not sure about the social defense charm.
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