[Exalted, ?] Most High

I think a lot of people are mistaking being aware of our options but largely unaware of our potential enemies' options for being in a better position. Because all the supposed Alliances people are talking about being in our favor? Most of them are just options at this point, as we've haven't moved to secure them at all. They can be contested, and could potentially go to other groups if they've been working on that front.

Your chances are better at this moment than they will be for a while, at least without massive preparation time.

Honestly I think people are letting the perfect become the enemy of the good here, there will always be some hypothetically more ideal scenario to wait for. Right up until the whole thing comes crashing down on us when we least expect it. What we have here is a very serviceable opportunity that shouldn't be squandered. Come on, we're a Solar and we don't even know how to seize the day?

As for xp expenditure, I'd favor combat power, and maybe that bodyguard suite, probably regardless of what wins, as even if we leave immediately and with remorse I imagine we'll be seeing a higher uptick in assassinations attempts on us and our friends.

If you intend to trigger the RCW, this would be a pretty advantageous time to trigger it. But some people may not intend to trigger it at all, or even work proactively to prevent it.
 
[X] "I meant to do that"
[X] Counter-Infiltration


As for the two options for xp, I was uncertain between the two, but Strategos seems slightly more useful if Civil War breaks out.

[X] The Strategos
 
You don't have to include the votes for the previous options, the voting part of that is pretty much over anyway. It'll be decided on arguments + votes, but the votes are pretty much closed.
 
[X] "I meant to do that"
[X] Counter-Infiltration

[X] The Strategos
 
If you intend to trigger the RCW, this would be a pretty advantageous time to trigger it. But some people may not intend to trigger it at all, or even work proactively to prevent it.

With all the cooks trying to shove their way to the broth though, I'm pretty skeptical about the practicality of that. Even working against it seems like it could trigger it. Also if we spend all our time doing that, what about all the other issues that would be left on the wayside? Better to get it out of the way when there will still be a Realm left afterwards.

Mmm, it really depends on which spells you get. Infallible Messenger sure would have been useful for you here...

Hmm, that's true, but lots of people can learn Infallible Messenger, not everyone can become a superlative general. If anything I'd say this experience shows we need to go recruit a Cellphone Sorcerer that isn't important enough to have other tasks with higher priority than following us around. Can't be good at everything after all... yet.
 
With all the cooks trying to shove their way to the broth though, I'm pretty skeptical about the practicality of that. Even working against it seems like it could trigger it. Also if we spend all our time doing that, what about all the other issues that would be left on the wayside? Better to get it out of the way when there will still be a Realm left afterwards.

Hmm, that's true, but lots of people can learn Infallible Messenger, not everyone can become a superlative general. If anything I'd say this experience shows we need to go recruit a Cellphone Sorcerer that isn't important enough to have other tasks with higher priority than following us around. Can't be good at everything after all... yet.

Sorcerers are almost all pretty important, though you might be able to find one for a price. Uly required prep time to set up his elaborate plan against the Austs, it wasn't just picking a random sorcerer off the street!
 
Well, as it happens, there is a Celestial Circle Sorcerer around at the tournament who may be open for a new job offer after the initial rough spot of interrogation but who would need to stay very close by Ulyssian until she could be trusted...
 
[x] the strategos

Lore charms are actually useful in 3e. There's even some relavant to combat charms in lore whereas occult combat charms mostly deal with spirits.
 
Both of these options are enormously useful on the tactical and strategic level.

The messenger spell? Demon summoning? Group teleport? Also, spells that set people on fire or whatever, who cares when you can drop Odyssial n' Pals on a guy? Or drop a handful of 2CDs, if that's your thing. Or Zao.

The Strategos just straight up makes us a peerless general. I don't recognize a bunch of the charms listed, but I like Uly at his Batmanniest. It also presumably has more pure combat application, since it leads into an enormous number of Evocations, or a nation-nuke, in addition to the boost from being an unholy cross of Sun Tzu, Batman and MacGuyver.

Mostly, I'm just going
[X] Strategos
because I prefer the themes, in the end.
 
[X] "I meant to do that"
[X] Counter-Infiltration
[X] The Strategos


Mayby Nilul would be interested on learning sorcery? It seems a bit more her than most other forms of self defense and she is probably in the mindset to pick up a new skill to help her feel safe after encounter with Infernals.
 
[X] "I meant to do that"
[X] Counter-Infiltration
[X] The Sorceror


Come people let's learn sorcery and finally learn something Odyssial never had a chance to.
 
[X] The Strategos

Strategos requires Solar charms, so it can really only be done by Uly. While sorcery is shiny, it would be easier to find sorcerers than it would be to find helpful solars.
 
Mayby Nilul would be interested on learning sorcery? It seems a bit more her than most other forms of self defense and she is probably in the mindset to pick up a new skill to help her feel safe after encounter with Infernals.
An interesting thought, but can Nilul even learn sorcery beyond the Emerald Circle? She is still a DB, but I suppose she could use the Ebon Dragon initiation charms.

She'll probably never willingly use Demon Summoning, though, so the utility of this option is somewhat reduced, but still quite good. You'll need to find a way to motivate her, though.

Strategos requires Solar charms, so it can really only be done by Uly. While sorcery is shiny, it would be easier to find sorcerers than it would be to find helpful solars.
Finding a reliable and trustworthy Celestial Circle Sorcerer is only marginally easier than finding a reliable and trustworthy Solar. Additionally, the utility of many spells, like Invulnerable Skin of Bronze, is completely personal. Other spells, like Infallible Messenger, offer enormous personal benefits when they are your control spell. Don't you want to send a message to Lealope and even see her?

In addition to all that, having two sorcerers is essentially twice as good as having only one. Why limit yourself to 12 Second Circle Demons when you could have 24?
 
[X] The Strategos - A focus on Lore Charms, dramatically increasing your knowledge of history, literature, geography, mathematics, and other fields of academia. Allows you to be a versatile and powerful polymath-general, with the ability to unleash a hurricane of countermeasures and favorable circumstances if given time to set the battlefield and prepare.
Mayby Nilul would be interested on learning sorcery? It seems a bit more her than most other forms of self defense and she is probably in the mindset to pick up a new skill to help her feel safe after encounter with Infernals.
If Nilul picks up Sorcerous Enlightenment of The Ebon Dragon she should be able to learn Sorcery just as well as any Solar, said Sorcery would also be a giant flashing "The Monster is Here" sign for anyone who bothered to look at the higher levels.
 
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I think I'd be more willing to go with Sorcery if we aren't starting the war, and Strategist if we are. Sorcery really seems like a more long-term investment that radically alters the trajectory of Ulyssian's development. It's certainly incredibly useful for the utility powers, mind, and if operating by ourselves even more valuable. But if we've got to fight a war then being the unholy hybrid of Lu Bu and Zhuge Liang is really kind of important.
 
[X] The Sorceror
-[x] Infalliable Messenger
-[x] Magma Kraken control
[X] Remorse
On the argument that remorse allows alliances to solidify, quite the opposite. Should the chaos start, the Houses will be splitting across preestablished lines....lines which they had centuries to put into place, and of which we've none cemented. We don't have Houses on our side, only individuals.


Contrast a declaration of remorse. It avoids making enemies immediately and creates political confusion which we can exploit. From the perspective of the Realm the following theories come fo mind:
-We were an assassin prepared by Zao.
-We're even more powerful, but want to keep our remaining tricks in reserve.
-We were truly remorseful and withdrew in respect for the dead hero.
-It was a fluke, and we wanted to get out of the competition before we were tested further.
-It was sabotage and we wanted.to get out as soon as we proved our strengths.
-It was politics, we wanted to steal the thunder from the champion by eliminating the strongest candidate.

What it brings to the table is curiosity. The Houses will approach us, whether to try to find out our game, to challenge us and prove themselves, or because they see a rising star with few attachments and want to get in before the others. This breeds alliances, all the more powerful because they act as supplicant.

All eyes are on our hands, which any stage magician would tell you, is the perfect time to pull a fast one.
 
Yeah, if we're fighting the war right fucking now, Strategos.

If we're avoiding it, Sorcerer.
 
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