Guile
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Flame is on record as a Lost Egg. So's his sister. What would she introduce him as?
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[X] Demonstrate Massive and Total Remorse
A thus did Ulyssian say "...wut."
A thus did Ulyssian say "...wut."
Huh...that's a good explanation.
He seemed like would have been awesome to hang with. Unfortunately, he got #Rekt by Ulyssian's rolls. I would have allied and tried to convince him. Worst came to worst, Nilul could work him over psychologically.
He just made sure to develop another soul within his soul (ala the primordials) and had that one become a Dragonblood.
But what if she did know the truth about Zao? Or how would her opinion of Zao change with him sowing his oats everywhere?
Hmm a long shot possibility, if we gained enough xp to flash buy the 12 or so charms needed to hit the Essence 5 cap, would winning the tournament allow us to reach it?
Would take only 1.2 million xp gained to reach that point from the last xp count, so a long shot indeed.
Guile
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Our methodologies are different then, it seems, since I don't really want Uly to be overly regretful. He didn't intend it, but these things happen when you're throwing around attacks with the crushing force of mountains. Polemgaos, luminary though he was, just wasn't 'ard enough.
Yes, all eyes will be on Uly now... luckily, all four participants of the Counter-interrogation vote have super-disguises! Uly could show up as... I don't know, some dude, and grill them that way. Let them draw their own conclusions about who is - or isn't - Sesus Ulyssian.
Also, presumably going on to win the tournament confers even more prestige, and enough money to hire a Legion. That might be an important consideration at some point.
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That...
What?
You want to set off the Civil War, and not even get the benefits of having done it intentionally?
Or is this simply about deciding that whatever Ulyssian has done, it couldn't have been a mistake, because he did it?
And we've been specifically warned that going on with the Tournament doesn't guarantee more prestige - that, even with Polemgaos down, we're not assured victory, and that stumbling along the way could cost us what we've already gained.
What's the point behind your vote?
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The Kwisatz Haderach. No, seriously, the uniquely blessed and destined savior of the Dragonblooded, given gifts beyond measure by the Immaculate Dragons to rejuvenate the Dragonblooded and make them strong enough to face the many trials facing them to preserve Creation. I mean, she does control the Immaculate Order...
Guys, Zao wants Uly ultra-strong so we can takeover without the Realm being weakened a shit-ton. If the civil-war triggers now, even if we win it, the Realm will be super-weakened. Goes more or less directly against Zao's plan.
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I liked him. You did an excellent job of giving this guy solid characterization and made him relatable enough that we the players experience some regret for offing him, despite the likelihood of him murdering us if Ambition wasn't hilariously broken.
Also, I vote for Guile's write in, because it has the bits and pieces I want the most from the whole Complete Remorse option. Telling the entire realm that Ulyssian oopsed one of the most powerful dragon-blooded alive, without taking a scratch, is exactly the message I want those assholes to get. It'll make people EVEN MORE terrified, which is ... usually a good thing.
About the only thing I don't like about the write-in is that it doesn't guarantee moving away from the Heartlessness, which honestly I do want, I shall still hope though.
[x] Guile's Write-in
[x] Forbearance
It was an accident. Accidents, lamentable though they may be, happen. Polemgaos knew the risks of entering into battle, knew the limitations of his defenses. I am kind of sad that his immortality was a sham, though, he seemed rather cool; there was just so much history that he carried with him as closely as his armor, so many titles. The Emissary of the Burning Tree, which presumably gave him access to the Writ of the Flaming Bough; what kind of feats result in earning a perfect defense? The little things like that highlight that he was his own man, who had has his own loves and travails and great deeds. We ended that.
But you know what? Ulyssian is going to have to end a lot of people before this is done. Had he known the truth, Polemgaos would have slaughtered him without so much as an instant of remorse. Even this, we can turn towards our advantage; Ambition permitted it, after all, so Polemgaos' death can serve our interests. Let's not squander the fame to be gained here.
[X] "Don't worry, I struck you with the flat side of the- hm. Hmm."
Edit: Hmm, on second thought the write-in is a decent compromise option that benefits from an effectiveness bonus.
But you know what? Ulyssian is going to have to end a lot of people before this is done. Had he known the truth, Polemgaos would have slaughtered him without so much as an instant of remorse. Even this, we can turn towards our advantage; Ambition permitted it, after all, so Polemgaos' death can serve our interests. Let's not squander the fame to be gained here.
[X] "Don't worry, I struck you with the flat side of the- hm. Hmm."
Edit: Hmm, on second thought the write-in is a decent compromise option that benefits from an effectiveness bonus.
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[X] Demonstrate Massive and Total Remorse
[X] Withdraw from the tournament
[X] Withdraw from the tournament
[X] "I meant to do that"
[X] Continue the plan
We've an opportunity here, Zao can be ready to roll, and we've got the chance to bring in those two infernals onto our side if we play things right. Time to seize the moment.
[X] Continue the plan
We've an opportunity here, Zao can be ready to roll, and we've got the chance to bring in those two infernals onto our side if we play things right. Time to seize the moment.
[X] "Don't worry, I struck you with the flat side of the- hm. Hmm."
[X] Forbearance
[X] Forbearance
That's your opinion. If I could have voted for this outcome I would have. If you don't want people to kill you, don't go into a tournament with an explicit risk of death against the best warriors alive with propaganda saying killing you will have no consequences.
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
I suppose I should have said, I don't like 'Massive and Total' remorse. Massive and Total Remorse as written feels too passive, putting the momentum in the Cathak's corner. I want Uly to have made a mistake - and I want that mistake to explicitly be that he thought the immortal warrior-general of Cathak was stronger, or he would have pulled his blows.
Of note, even going 'I meant to do that' doesn't necessarily kick off the civil war, as written. "May spark the Realm Civil War", Rihaku wrote. There's wriggle room.
That could happen, or we could gain more prestige. It's doubling down on gains we've already, uh... gained. We might falter, but I think the odds are good that we will continue to succeed gloriously. Polemgaos didn't live (heh) up to the hype, but he was still the enormous favorite of this tournament, and we defeated him handily. The fear of him will help our odds further.
I want Uly - and Zao by extension - to be a rock, to be unassailable. To craft a legend of the undefeatable prodigy that is more than the man it sprung from; we learned very well from the Accursed how hard it is to kill an idea.
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Thank you for explaining your position.
This really does water the seeds of the legend we want for Ulyssian; it has most of the benefits of "I meant to do that" with minimal chances of outright war, and none of the crippling remorse of the other option. We don't need to express contrition to avoid being prosecuted for murder, because accidents are a known thing; the Cathak will push for it, but we have Zao (whose influence we have meticulously preserved), Ivory, and possibly House Sesus as well to protect us. Not to mention Ulyssian himself, of course, who is hardly an easy target. The Cathak are likely to want our head no matter what we do, we may as well make the most of what we've been given. That is the nature of Ambition, after all!
I'd encourage people to entertain the write-in option. They have an effectiveness bonus, and this one feels wholly in-character for Ulyssian.
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Rihaku
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Outright War is, like, a perk of that option! Hardly a flaw!
To be fair, no one has died from one of these things in like, six years.
Or they may judge, correctly, that you have some measure of power, and skill - but not the control to marshall both, when you most need them. For it is definitely not a good thing for you, that you killed Polemgaos, when you could have subdued him almost as easily.
Unless, of course, you were trying to start a war.
Do you really want to do that to the poor man? Wasn't he tortured enough with Big Red's social-fu?
Guile
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Nilul's social victory would be as direct and brutal as Uly's just was. She would conquer him like the Realm subduing a rebellious satrapy.
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Compromises in Quests generally tend to lack the impact of either actual choice while carrying a lot of the disadvantages of both. Either we are trying to avoid the consequences of killing Palemgaos, or we are embracing them. A half-hearted protest of "well I didn't mean to kill him" comes off as insincere while having less intimidation factor.
Guile
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"It's not my fault everybody I talked to said he was immortal!"
Rihaku
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But you're already a Solar Dragon!
That's ironic, considering who Zao's father is.
It would, indeed, be a Herculean task to avert, especially with so many of Zao's resources devoted to protecting Creation in general... perhaps if this thing can be wrapped up quickly, and a new, stabler Realm set up in its place - a clean break.
What do you intend to do about the lost potential of his bloodline, though? His sister's not cut out for it! Imagine DB minions with Flame's bloodline (just as Anys did!)
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Please tell me you didn't intend for that to come off as badass.
Because if you were, you missed.
Well, there is "[ ] Write-In - Write-ins benefit from a huge effectiveness bonus. However, note that the existing options are already pretty effective, for what their purposes are turned towards!"
Personally I highly favour "I meant to do that," but Guile's write-in is nearly as good while also being massively more palatable to the voters. I am greatly opposed to sincere remorse, and if we have to avoid that (not by making it intentional, as apparently people don't want that) by saying it was an accident instead of a mistake, I'm all for it.
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Urgh... I'm torn between the write-in option and the meaning to do that. Against showing remorse, though, that just pisses away the best parts of Uly's nature: his unceasing will to prevail and uncompromising personality.
I think accidentally obliterating one of the strongest warriors alive is a strong statement.
That's, like, your opinion, man.
I think accidentally obliterating one of the strongest warriors alive is a strong statement.
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[X] "Don't worry, I struck you with the flat side of the- hm. Hmm."
What, we Solar Shogun with Shadow Princess?
yeah, time to conquer the Realm.
What, we Solar Shogun with Shadow Princess?
yeah, time to conquer the Realm.
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