Fancy Face
Tactically Superior
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There are always choices to be made.
Even if those choices are just how to deal with getting the protagonist killed.
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There are always choices to be made.
Even if those choices are just how to deal with getting the protagonist killed.
Rihaku
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Hm, it depends. Most of that probability is just them getting really lucky and screwing you on a crucial roll. It would shore up your defenses some, but probably not as much as Zao's armor will. If you didn't have Zao's armor, your chances of victory would be like, 30%.
I've already made that choice!
Fancy Face
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Wait, really? Which quest was this?
Rihaku
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For this quest, if you guys die.
Fancy Face
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Oh. I thought you meant you'd already had a quest where the main character died and you'd managed to handle it.
Nothing to be done about it if she's gone. But surely Lung Feng Zao and his favored student have a secret means of communication, hand-signs or something. He controls the winds within the Academy's walls, so he could easily alert her if he so desired.
Rihaku
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Inasmuch as it ends the quest, that is pretty much always the plan.
Or perhaps he will not encourage this foolishness and simply tell these cretins to get lost!
Zao, why must you be so risk-averse? Oh, right, you've survived a thousand years against the worst Creation has to offer. Learned habits.
Anyway, he may not like it, but if we're picking this fight... wouldn't he want to maximize our odds of success?
Rihaku
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Argh, I forgot to threadmark again!
He's not really wrong, there's no reason for you to take this risk if you don't have to.
He can always kill them all if it looks like you're about to die!
That's pretty suspicous, though, to say the least. But maybe he thinks you'll be more likely to back down if he engages in brinksmanship? Anyway, they don't appear to be astrologically augmented, though how would you know?
He's not really wrong, there's no reason for you to take this risk if you don't have to.
He can always kill them all if it looks like you're about to die!
That's pretty suspicous, though, to say the least. But maybe he thinks you'll be more likely to back down if he engages in brinksmanship? Anyway, they don't appear to be astrologically augmented, though how would you know?
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Is there a particular venue that would be both suitable on a religious/political level and which would offer an advantage for Ulyssian? The arena is probably the most likely place for the battle, and offers plenty of room for the Brotherhood; if there were some argument to be made for another venue, perhaps say avoiding the arena due to the risk of damage from the fight, or due to the particular auspiciousness of the geomantic properties of the alternative site, that might perhaps help.
Well, we probably wouldn't. Still, even if they're not buffed, they could be debuffed by Ivory. Or we could be buffed! It is Ulyssian's nature to seize any advantage, no matter how slight. We spent experience that would've made this fight easier on breaking the Bronze Faction's conditioning, so if we can use her as an asset in any way at all, we definitely should do that.
Basically, if we're fighting fair, we're doing it wrong. The parallels with the Beman fight would be amusing and improbable coincidences in our favor are, in the context of the trial, possible signs of the Dragons' favor.
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When choosing a component of a title, may we pick any of the listed features or are they sequential? Out of War-Saint's Ferocious Vigor :
*The Solar may perform a devastating physical strike, crossing significant distances in an instant to utterly seize control of an engagement
*When struck by glancing blows, his power is only renewed, greatly extending his stamina in combat
*When fully committing to a strike, likewise his power is renewed, commensurate to the upwelling excellence of the strike itself
*His precise, yet energetic power allows him to deflect, repel, and overcome even the most skilled of attacks, frequently turning sure hits into narrow misses with very modest effort.
I want
*When struck by glancing blows, his power is only renewed, greatly extending his stamina in combat
or
*When fully committing to a strike, likewise his power is renewed, commensurate to the upwelling excellence of the strike itself
to to compliment Flash of Steel.
If they must be purchased sequentially, I'd take the first to make it easier to flash-buy the second.
Edit: Also, I'm assuming "glancing blows" refers to any attack parried or soaked.
Edit2: or any attack not decisive?
*The Solar may perform a devastating physical strike, crossing significant distances in an instant to utterly seize control of an engagement
*When struck by glancing blows, his power is only renewed, greatly extending his stamina in combat
*When fully committing to a strike, likewise his power is renewed, commensurate to the upwelling excellence of the strike itself
*His precise, yet energetic power allows him to deflect, repel, and overcome even the most skilled of attacks, frequently turning sure hits into narrow misses with very modest effort.
I want
*When struck by glancing blows, his power is only renewed, greatly extending his stamina in combat
or
*When fully committing to a strike, likewise his power is renewed, commensurate to the upwelling excellence of the strike itself
to to compliment Flash of Steel.
If they must be purchased sequentially, I'd take the first to make it easier to flash-buy the second.
Edit: Also, I'm assuming "glancing blows" refers to any attack parried or soaked.
Edit2: or any attack not decisive?
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Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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Question for Rihaku:
How does the first ability of War Saint's Ferocious Vigor work? The speed related one? Does it allow for repeated speed-blitzing on a level that would be sufficient to get early, possibly fatal, hits in on selected opponents here?
Question for the thread in general:
If we're fighting these guys, what order should we prioritize taking them out in? Who's the most immediately dangerous to us in this situation based on their Caste?
How does the first ability of War Saint's Ferocious Vigor work? The speed related one? Does it allow for repeated speed-blitzing on a level that would be sufficient to get early, possibly fatal, hits in on selected opponents here?
Question for the thread in general:
If we're fighting these guys, what order should we prioritize taking them out in? Who's the most immediately dangerous to us in this situation based on their Caste?
Rihaku
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They're all really good mechanically. Pre-reqs differ, it depends on the specific Charms referenced. Actually the most important of those charms is probably the first one.
Astrological intervention is fairly involved, I don't know that you would be able to stall long enough for her to write a prayer to the Pattern Spiders and all that stuff. But Zao can neutralize astrologies with his kung fu, it's just a matter of convincing him that you can't be convinced.
Which itself can be a matter of just flash-buying the right Charm, but that would sort of defeat the point.
Hm... the problem is that they could point it out, and say that the fight should be fair. Unless it's an elementally aspected site or something, which would only provide advantages for them.
We lose nothing by trying, though. In fact, we just generate a larger audience.
Hm... the experience costs do hurt, but flash-purchasing here would be infinitely preferable to defeat.
So looking more in detail into the different titles we can buy and then a little more into details- Better Listeners'- "supreme readiness for battle... with uncanny speed" likely refers to Awakening eye which lets us unload a free full awareness excellency on join battle and also has 10s rolled explode.
With this and a well-written stunt, we can begin combat by rolling 23 dice with some auto successes already there giving us a high initiative. Now if we were facing the vanilla shikari brotherhood started out then we would have quite a large init advantage that could be channeled into a decisive attack to wreck face on the shikaris as they have only a single digit join battle pool. If we had the proper thrown charm package, we could combo that into a devastating opener that costs us little motes.
But I bet these shikari are a bit more buff than those started out already just to make sure by Ayn Syns we die.
[X] Accept
With this and a well-written stunt, we can begin combat by rolling 23 dice with some auto successes already there giving us a high initiative. Now if we were facing the vanilla shikari brotherhood started out then we would have quite a large init advantage that could be channeled into a decisive attack to wreck face on the shikaris as they have only a single digit join battle pool. If we had the proper thrown charm package, we could combo that into a devastating opener that costs us little motes.
But I bet these shikari are a bit more buff than those started out already just to make sure by Ayn Syns we die.
[X] Accept
Rihaku
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It might be suspicious if it looks like you keep playing for time. Especially since you don't have a particularly devout reputation!
That's true, though you'd need to convince the thread that it's worth it.
Rihaku
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Single digit before excellencies, which doesn't mean much. Join Battle initiative isn't going to carry you this fight, not with Heaven Sword Flash halving the damage done, unless you want to try the Iron Whirlwind route, which is a LOT riskier. You'd probably want at least 46 Initiative before using Heaven Sword Flash, though 50+ would be vastly preferable.
Fair enough. For me, the primary benefits of this venture are the boost to our reputation and the fact that winning blunts the leading edge of Syn's offensive.
Hey, thread, do you think flash-purchasing some more stuff is worth it to ensure we don't die horribly?
[X] Accept - Caution you who sow the wind, for you shall reap the whirlwind. They believe that if it comes to blows, they will easily prevail. And perhaps against almost any days-old Solar, they would be correct. But you are Odyssial, who was Lord Strategos of the Exalted Host, and your blade has cut down Titans. Let them come, the dragons of earth and fire. You will show them what true power is. [+100,000 XP, Immaculate accusations are utterly defeated for several months if you prevail]
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-[X] Flash of Steel (Damage component)
This is risky but with the armor we a pretty good chance of winning and if we do it completely stops the investigation.
We do need some way to appease zao after as he is much more risk adverse and will not like us taking the option with possible death
[X]War-Saint
-[X] Flash of Steel (Damage component)
This is risky but with the armor we a pretty good chance of winning and if we do it completely stops the investigation.
We do need some way to appease zao after as he is much more risk adverse and will not like us taking the option with possible death
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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While it is true that Ulyssian is not known for his devotion to Immaculate dogma, at the same time, when one is about to face Trial By Dragons, a bit of praying to said dragons is understandable. If Ulyssian prays and we win, then it just puts him in a better position, and he prays and is called off from it and STILL wins, then that still ends up redounding to his benefit. And if he loses, well it's not going to matter either way!
Rihaku
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[X] Accept
I think he should at least attempt to talk them into a series of 1v1 fights. If not, well.... 70% is pretty good odds
[X]War-Saint
-[X] Flash of Steel (Damage component)
A 1/3rd chance of defeat is pretty nasty. Would you guys really take this balance of risks and rewards in real life? I don't know. I think you guys just think you're invincible!
There's nothing you can buy that would ensure that!
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I'm fine with it.
I'm sure we can come up with stuff to do if we run out of training XPs.