Remove ads

[Exalted, ?] Most High

Reader mode
Orm Embar said:
Hey, thread, do you think flash-purchasing some more stuff is worth it to ensure we don't die horribly?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Absolutely, but Rihaku's usual devil's-advocacy ended that line of discussion on "but that leaves you with very little XP, making your remaining training time inefficient."

Which is true, though I think it is worth it anyways. We are working against our death here, majorly setting back our enemies, and ensuring the continued existence of much of Zao's influence.
 
Any suggestions on charms to flash buy? I think it would be worth it to improve our chance of survival, and since the option give 100,000 exp we should be willing to spend at least that much
 
Emerald Oracle said:
While it is true that Ulyssian is not known for his devotion to Immaculate dogma, at the same time, when one is about to face Trial By Dragons, a bit of praying to said dragons is understandable.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

You may wish for your enemies to think like that, but far more likely they will exploit any and all openings, no matter how manifestly unfair, to cast you in the worst possible interpretable light.

If Ulyssian prays and we win, then it just puts him in a better position, and he prays and is called off from it and STILL wins, then that still ends up redounding to his benefit. And if he loses, well it's not going to matter either way!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Hm, he has been playing the part of the proud Sesus bravo, I don't know that praying would seem at all coherent with that image. At the very best, you might look genuinely scared, as a DB in this situation should be. But then, would Zao's heir look scared? Or is that, too, something that could be interpreted as a sign that you are Anathema?

Guile said:
I'm fine with it.

I'm sure we can come up with stuff to do if we run out of training XPs.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Or stuff can happen to you! Or Zao can order you to go do stuff. But you'll be weaker overall!
 
Van Ropen said:
Absolutely, but Rihaku's usual devil's-advocacy ended that line of discussion on "but that leaves you with very little XP, making your remaining training time inefficient."

Which is true, though I think it is worth it anyways. We are working against our death here, majorly setting back our enemies, and ensuring the continued existence of much of Zao's influence.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

You guys can just not pick Accept. Zao isn't going to lose all his Influence over this, the Realm still needs him.

inventive alias said:
Any suggestions on charms to flash buy? I think it would be worth it to improve our chance of survival, and since the option give 100,000 exp we should be willing to spend at least that much
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I'm writing up Zao's armors as well, you might profitably dump some XP there.

Candesce said:
I think, at this point, we've entirely destroyed any claim that Max Power gained us experience.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Not if you don't pick Accept!

Usernames said:
We need to hype it up though. Get an audience and shit.

Tell The Family Sesus to come over and watch.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

They're not going to give you prep time!
 
It's certainly risky, but it does come with a lot of benefits. If we don't die anyway. I'd also rather deal with this problem now, rather than putting it off for a few months and giving them more time to plot/assassinate/otherwisescrewusover
 
Rihaku said:
Or stuff can happen to you! Or Zao can order you to go do stuff. But you'll be weaker overall!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Weaker, but alive! And with a truly ferocious reputation. Anyone who can take on an entire sworn brotherhood and WIN is not someone most DBs are going to want to piss off.

Also, of COURSE Ulyssian's enemies are going to interpret everything about him in the worst possible way, that's why they're enemies! The point isn't to convince his enemies he's something with this, it's to convince those who are at least on the fence! At this point he's facing five fanatics who think he's anathema, nothing he says or does is going to change THEIR opinion save killing them all in bloody combat.

Also, as my earlier question wasn't answered and seems lost in the shuffle, how does that first bit of War Saint's VIgor work? Does it allow for swift enough and repeatable battlefield movement to speed blitz one or two?


Also, Thread At Large! We need priorities if we're fighting five dudes! Who's the most dangerous on down y'know?
 
[X] Negotiate

Soooo... I'm late to the party. The party has already gone mobile, in fact, and the bandwagon is trotting (yes the bandwagon has legs shut up) its way downhill and buildin' up steam. Zao's a cool guy, so we shouldn't force him to tank this with reputation, no matter how fun it would be to see him beat a full team of shikari bloody with one hand tied behind his back. 30% odds of humiliating death is just too spicy for me, sorry. I just got here! I don't want it to end yet (or ever, really).

Negotiation it is, then. We (or you guys) already did it once with Zao, why not try again here? This whole thing is a farce anyway, which means it fits in nicely with the rest of the Immaculate faith. Something less painful would be a nice compromise. We have Lore 5 with a bonus to Realm stuff, so I bet we know our scriptures as well as they do. Uly's alllll about knowing his enemy, right?

If we do fight, buy everything we can. We can always get more exp (I think?) but we only have one shot at this.
 
Rihaku said:
Single digit before excellencies, which doesn't mean much. Join Battle initiative isn't going to carry you this fight, not with Heaven Sword Flash halving the damage done, unless you want to try the Iron Whirlwind route, which is a LOT riskier. You'd probably want at least 46 Initiative before using Heaven Sword Flash, though 50+ would be vastly preferable.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Well it is slightly possible to get that many successes on the join battle roll if we went all out on the awareness charms.( If we rolled nothing but all 10s).

Turns out the statted out shikari even with excellency use only reach single digit dice, only with stunts do they reach double digits. Of course these are the vanilla quick characters with 3s for awareness and wits not the maxed out values of veteran shikari.
 
Brekouh said:
It's certainly risky, but it does come with a lot of benefits. If we don't die anyway. I'd also rather deal with this problem now, rather than putting it off for a few months and giving them more time to plot/assassinate/otherwisescrewusover
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Seriously I do not want to see Anys to come up with some even worse bullshit later if we put this off.

If we win then it secures our rep for a awhile which brings us out of the frying pan for a bit.
 
Vitaris said:
Negotiation it is, then. We (or you guys) already did it once with Zao, why not try again here?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The difference, I think, is that these guys are already 100% convinced we're Anathema, they're part of an elite ruling class since they're in the upper echelons of the only dogma permissible in the Realm, and they've got a dozen Sidereals pouring liquid luck to grease the wheels.

If they're willing to do an endzone play around the Great Houses and Shogun Feng to do this, I can't think of anything we could say to make them pack it in and go home. They have to already know how bad this looks, and they're doing it anyway with no doubt whatsoever.
 
Last edited:
You're currently at 412,900 Normal and 438,600 Solar XP, of which 200,000 will be spent during this update.
 
Last edited:
I'll throw in for the default
[X]War-Saint
-[X] Flash of Steel (Damage component)

After actually reading some of the system, I don't think my idea was strictly superior. Might have been worse.
 
The problem with [] Negotiate isn't that it gives the Hunt the opening to try again soon; that soon could be spent training charms the efficient way, or otherwise preparing.

No, the problem is that a) the entire basis of that combat test "proving" we're not Anathema is that we haven't had time to train, so we get less out of the fight, and b) the risk that whatever more orthodox tests they might be possible to argue into might actually be less possible for us to accomplish - we're not going to be lighting fires with our anima right now.
 
Brekouh said:
It's certainly risky, but it does come with a lot of benefits. If we don't die anyway. I'd also rather deal with this problem now, rather than putting it off for a few months and giving them more time to plot/assassinate/otherwisescrewusover
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

But in a few months, you will be a lot stronger to deal with them!

Gaudy Guise said:
The first.

Hyperinflation, Weimar style. We'll be shoving cartloads of Omakes just to break even with EXP costs.

That kind of inflation.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

XP costs are pretty much set until / unless you hit E6, actually. I don't expect you guys to generate that much XP anyway; you've been pretty consistently generating less than 100k a day.

Emerald Oracle said:
Weaker, but alive! And with a truly ferocious reputation. Anyone who can take on an entire sworn brotherhood and WIN is not someone most DBs are going to want to piss off.

Also, of COURSE Ulyssian's enemies are going to interpret everything about him in the worst possible way, that's why they're enemies! The point isn't to convince his enemies he's something with this, it's to convince those who are at least on the fence! At this point he's facing five fanatics who think he's anathema, nothing he says or does is going to change THEIR opinion save killing them all in bloody combat.

Also, as my earlier question wasn't answered and seems lost in the shuffle, how does that first bit of War Saint's VIgor work? Does it allow for swift enough and repeatable battlefield movement to speed blitz one or two?

Also, Thread At Large! We need priorities if we're fighting five dudes! Who's the most dangerous on down y'know?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

It mainly just lets you get huge amounts of combat momentum, making it hard to hurt you and making it easier for you to hurt them. It also closes gaps. Very useful!

CharlBaal said:
Well it is slightly possible to get that many successes on the join battle roll if we went all out on the awareness charms.( If we rolled nothing but all 10s).

Turns out the statted out shikari even with excellency use only reach single digit dice, only with stunts do they reach double digits. Of course these are the vanilla quick characters with 3s for awareness and wits not the maxed out values of veteran shikari.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I won't discuss specifics since the book is not yet out, but that's incorrect for at least three of them.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top