Nah, SS actually ran around deliberately hurting people for shits and giggles.

Edit: Remember SS got herself private live ammo stashes when she had tinker-tranqs. She literally went out of her way to run around shooting people with less effective ammo that could actually kill them.
Just because Shadow Stalker wasn't squeaky clean doesn't mean that the PRT was. I consider it entirely possible that Shadow Stalker got into a big fight, and whatever Protectorate cape noticed the fight (Armsmaster, Miss Militia, Velocity, and Battery seem like the sorts) waited until after Shadow Stalker delivered a serious injury to swoop in and throw the book at both parties.
 
Just because Shadow Stalker wasn't squeaky clean doesn't mean that the PRT was. I consider it entirely possible that Shadow Stalker got into a big fight, and whatever Protectorate cape noticed the fight (Armsmaster, Miss Militia, Velocity, and Battery seem like the sorts) waited until after Shadow Stalker delivered a serious injury to swoop in and throw the book at both parties.
and combined with stalker's usual tactic of 'dont help until they fight back'...

ACAB
 
Flare would honestly punch someone who compared her to Stalker if she could get away with it. She doesn't torture people, and she realized she has a horrifically lethal power and needed a safe way to use it. And she spent a couple months in a warehouse with boarded up windows figuring out how to do so
 
What we have to "ask purselfs" is if this is standar protocol for all the PRT/Protectorade for recruting? Armbeard vulcan-logic in action? Or Piggot been a witch and leaving her hubris act?
If it's protocol then this is very bad and can cause a lot of s!ht-flak when the ones press recruited see it, as well as poison the work environment like no other (SS and the Wards is a good example of this)
If it s from the other two well... at least we know that it can be worse, it can be Tagg
 
What we have to "ask purselfs" is if this is standar protocol for all the PRT/Protectorade for recruting? Armbeard vulcan-logic in action? Or Piggot been a witch and leaving her hubris act?
If it's protocol then this is very bad and can cause a lot of s!ht-flak when the ones press recruited see it, as well as poison the work environment like no other (SS and the Wards is a good example of this)
If it s from the other two well... at least we know that it can be worse, it can be Tagg
Also add to that, if this is protocol, is it just the bay, or is it something that came down from the top, cause remember, when it isn't a simurgh plot, it is usually a Cauldron plot.
 
if calls PRT to assist, delay assistance by one to two minutes to make injury of those in conflict with more likely to enhance this.

its not intended as a misery-wank @~@
Gonna have to convince me a little harder, friend.

This better be a Coil plot (I searched the usual keywords and couldn't find any mention in the thread whether he is a factor at all) because if some Thinker (of which there obviously are none of note in the Bay) — or even, as implausible for Earth Bet as it may sound, a genuine mundane whistleblower with some principles — found this bit of officially sanctioned entrapment, I imagine the resulting Congressional hearing would be immensely entertaining. Especially if a teenager ends up with a body count due to official government policy.

Non–raging-hatefanon Piggot isn't this stupid, so giving you the benefit of the doubt, it has to be some hostile-or-incompetent flunky below her, but who did it? This is a pretty big plot coupon.

Edit: To be clear, it's not that I don't think an individual could get it into their heads that this is a Fine Plan For The Greater Good, but putting it into an official, subject-to-indexing-and-archiving parahuman dossier that has had more than one set of institutional eyes on it, is hitting the limits of the elasticity of belief. It's not like it's a 50-page monster with this buried as a footnote.
 
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Gonna have to convince me a little harder, friend.

This better be a Coil plot (I searched the usual keywords and couldn't find any mention in the thread whether he is a factor at all) because if some Thinker (of which there obviously are none of note in the Bay) — or even, as implausible for Earth Bet as it may sound, a genuine mundane whistleblower with some principles — found this bit of officially sanctioned entrapment, I imagine the resulting Congressional hearing would be immensely entertaining. Especially if a teenager ends up with a body count due to official government policy.

Non–raging-hatefanon Piggot isn't this stupid, so giving you the benefit of the doubt, it has to be some hostile-or-incompetent flunky below her, but who did it? This is a pretty big plot coupon.

Edit: To be clear, it's not that I don't think an individual could get it into their heads that this is a Fine Plan For The Greater Good, but putting it into an official, subject-to-indexing-and-archiving parahuman dossier that has had more than one set of institutional eyes on it, is hitting the limits of the elasticity of belief. It's not like it's a 50-page monster with this buried as a footnote.
You are talking about a setting where, according to WOG, Congress passed a law banning parahumans from operating businesses above a certain threshold of customers/income, and said law was supported by the PRT in the hopes that it would drive more parahumans into the Protectorate. This is honestly pretty low key, and the only people who would likely have eyes on this file would be those who have no problem with the policy.
 
This is also a setting that contains the Youth Guard, which I would like to imagine would have Problems with baiting teenagers, even those not yet under their direct oversight, into becoming so by way of deliberately failing to protect them from committing grievous bodily harm, or manslaughter, or of course, the victim of said act, since they may be innocent enough to not deserve intimate plasma experiences. Either way, the PRT risks a lot of backlash by deliberately ignoring its primary task. (One can also discuss whether the PRT has the prerogative at all to not do its job on purpose. I doubt it, and it is likely major malfeasance.)

Economic/business vs individual values will vary in politics, whether genuinely or just because someone finds it a fine stalking horse to drive through some other agenda.

There's no redaction tags mentioned, so I'm going to assume the entire file is visible to at least squad commander level. Between dozens of phone dispatch operators and squad commanders, it seems foolish to assume none, ever, would have an opinion on this level of callousness about a teenager with apparently no present criminal record.

Furthermore, it's an amazing failure to consider the consequences of the plan succeeding, but being revealed to its victim fait accompli. Someone with her powerset suddenly rampaging from inside the PRT/Protectorate premises would be able to cause a hell of a lot more damage than their worth as an unwilling employee.
 
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Edit: To be clear, it's not that I don't think an individual could get it into their heads that this is a Fine Plan For The Greater Good, but putting it into an official, subject-to-indexing-and-archiving parahuman dossier that has had more than one set of institutional eyes on it, is hitting the limits of the elasticity of belief. It's not like it's a 50-page monster with this buried as a footnote.
Yeah. In this case, I definitely agree.
You are talking about a setting where, according to WOG, Congress passed a law banning parahumans from operating businesses above a certain threshold of customers/income, and said law was supported by the PRT in the hopes that it would drive more parahumans into the Protectorate. This is honestly pretty low key, and the only people who would likely have eyes on this file would be those who have no problem with the policy.
Even with all the issues the PRT and Protectorate have, at least some of these people joined up because they wanted to be heroes and I have a bit of trouble believing that the entirety of the Brockton Bay Protectorate would be okay with something like that if they discovered it in an official document. Not every member of the Protectorate is a career-driven glory hound like Armsmaster or a yes-woman like Miss Militia. Dauntless, Triumph, and Battery (and Assault, depending on the interpretation of him) are essentially good people (or, at least, like to think of themselves that way). And Triumph is explicitly against these sorts of shady dealings.

Even if all the heroes were willing to just go along with it, 'cover your ass' tends to be the policy of bureaucracies everywhere, and putting this down in writing pretty blatantly defies that.

To be clear, I don't find it hard to believe that this would be an unofficial instruction passed down by some anonymous figure from on high (honestly, I could see it), but writing it down in an official document is just asking for heads to roll if it leaked. Considering that Coil is expressly trying to make Piggot look bad, leak it almost certainly would and once it does, it calls every single incident involving Flare into question. If Steve Steveson's leg was broken by an E88 cape that was fighting Flare before the Protectorate arrived, there's now grounds for him to sue. Was he injured because of the delay? Probably not, but who knows? And now PRT now has to either prove that he wasn't in court or settle. Can they afford it? Sure. But do they want to have to deal with that? Probably not. Worse, it calls into question whether or not the Protectorate purposefully baited other probationary wards into breaking the law so they could be strong-armed into joining.

Basically, making this an official policy has the potential to turn into a colossal mess that results in multiple lawsuits and careers ending. It's... yeah. Unless the goal was the make the PRT look bad (and given Coil, this is a definite possibility), whoever wrote this down was not making good choices.

edit: A bit of clarification on what I meant by 'good people'
 
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Even with all the issues the PRT and Protectorate have, at least some of these people joined up because they wanted to be heroes and I have a bit of trouble believing that the entirety of the Brockton Bay Protectorate would be okay with something like that if they discovered it in an official document. Not every member of the Protectorate is a career-driven glory hound like Armsmaster or a yes-woman like Miss Militia. Dauntless, Triumph, and Battery (and Assault, depending on the interpretation of him) are essentially good people. And Triumph is explicitly against these sorts of shady dealings
And a lot of cops likely joined the force to do good as well. Look where that got us now. Just because some of them are "good people" (and two of those people on that list are not), means nothing to how the system works.
 
Without going too deep into IRL politics, we are also presently in the middle of an immense political shitstorm about it. So...

(Also, I live in a country where the police does not habitually shoot people, despite being armed, and when they do there's inquiries and even police officers risk prison if they violated the limits of their rights. Go figure.)
 
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And a lot of cops likely joined the force to do good as well. Look where that got us now. Just because some of them are "good people" (and two of those people on that list are not), means nothing to how the system works.
I guess I would argue that a parahuman has vastly more clout than an individual cop (who is essentially interchangeable from an operational perspective). Even disregarding that, though, I'm not saying that any of them would quit over this or leak it. But I could see one or more of them making a fuss over it and potentially getting it kicked up the chain of command when that could have been avoided by making it an unofficial policy rather than putting it down on paper.

People tend to be very good at lying to themselves, but when you say the quiet part out loud it becomes a lot harder for them to do that.
 
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But I could see one or more of them making a fuss over it and potentially getting it kicked up the chain of command

At which point, as I began by assuming, there would be a not-grimstupid-Piggot interrupt. I just can't see her willing to take the risk to the institution for such a small reward, when Flare is not yet The Enemy and there's very good odds they won't have to intentionally manufacture the pretext at all later on since it's her opinion and experience that parahumans always screw up sooner or later.
 
You are talking about a setting where, according to WOG, Congress passed a law banning parahumans from operating businesses above a certain threshold of customers/income, and said law was supported by the PRT in the hopes that it would drive more parahumans into the Protectorate. This is honestly pretty low key, and the only people who would likely have eyes on this file would be those who have no problem with the policy.
Actually, based on the details of how the Elite formed in the aftermath of NEPEA-5, it was the number of parahumans using their power for the company that was restricted, rather than anything about customers or income.
 
Leviticus 4.5
CHOCOLATE! DOCTOR'S NOTES! AMY!
Special thanks to my lovely co-author and wife, @hellgodsrus, without whom I would never would have been able to take part in creating half my fics, and our girlfriend @SolarFlare for being awesome. Prime Betas @Tamahori and @32nd_freeze for being betas and feeding me validation and feedback between updates. And newly appointed Prime Beta @Ganurath!

Also, if anyone's interested in a slightly smuttier take on Flare's interlude called "Into the Cougar's Den", then go visit Questionable Questing, look for a thread by Fedorable called Totally Lewding It.


Leviticus
4.5
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Turns out Amy could write doctor's notes, and basically excused me from the essay by way of 'mental health concerns'. I don't know if it was bullshit or not - or she was actually allowed to do this sort of thing - but I was willing to try.

Oh, but it wasn't because she was a friend or anything, apparently my screaming had woken her up in the middle of the night and nearly given her a heart attack. So I honestly wasn't sure if the mental health concerns were for her or me. Maybe both.

I didn't get much sleep after the nightmare. Even after Victoria had stayed for two hours, holding me, listening to me as I babbled about what I could remember of it - just pieces of the violence, of Mom smiling as she did it. I definitely owed her one. Or three.

I didn't even wait for first break, I went straight to Abby's homeroom to wait outside until she showed up. "Hey." I waved tiredly to her when she got there - a whole fifteen minutes early. I wished I could have slept in.

"Hey." Her smile was so wide and beautiful at first - I tried to get the image of a long fingered hand around her throat out of my mind - but it fell away. "God, Taylor, are you okay? You look - "

"Like death warmed up?"

"Did Amy call you that?"

"No, she had much more vivid descriptions for me." I wrapped my arms around her and buried my face in her shoulder. "I'm just - so, so glad you're still alive. Please just - never, ever go near Mom." I could feel her confusion as she tensed up - "Nightmare. Way too fucking vivid - I know she can - can take things away but if she can put them there, too, then -" my throat closed up. Living a false life can't trust anything can't believe anything I thought I know.

"I won't. I won't, I promise." Her arms wrapped around me so warm. "Hey. I'm safe. I promise I'm safe."

"Thankyou." Deep breath. Trying not to sob again. "Thank you."

"Are you - sure you should be here? At school, I mean? You seem - super out of it, and if you need to go home - "

"H-heroes apparently have dayjobs, and Wards go here, so I'm supposedly safer here."

"You might not be mentally safer. Spoons and such and all that. I can take you to the counsellor's office if you want? There's also a sensory room that's technically meant to be for autistic students but I don't think many people use it that much and it could just be a place for us to sit for a bit and not worry about anything."

"That - that would be wonderful." I pressed my palms at my eyes - stupid tear ducts, stupid scars, stupid Annette - "I'm - I'm sorry, I'm making you miss homeroom."

"You are about ten trillion times more important than homeroom."

"Ten trillion times zero is still zero." I tried - it was a bad joke. I couldn't pull it off.

"Well, it's not zero importance to me. It's low importance but." She squeezed my waist. "Okay. Come on." She sighed. "I'm tempted to have words with Victoria about making you come in at all today."

"Victoria wasn't the - one who convinced me though." That had been Brandish - with the argument that a 'normal day at school might help' - and myself not wanting to disappoint everyone. "I - decided to. Um."

"Taylor, you need to look after yourself, too." Abby pulled me along, I didn't even know where, it was all sort of a blur of staring at her and wanting her and then we were in a beanbag but there wasn't enough room so she was in my lap and I was holding onto her like she might fade away if I dared to loosen my grip on reality.

Not sure how long we sat there. We missed at least one class beyond homeroom - I tried to ask if Abby had to go, not sure what answer I wanted, and she assured me it was fine, that she could stay -

I nearly dozed off. Humming something with Abby leading me, tails finally uncoiling, finally - finally able to relax again. Tension draining from me.

I wasn't okay. Not by any measure. But I had more spoons, now, or something? I wasn't sure I was entirely there for the explanation Abby gave, but I had spoons and they weren't too big. A handful of spoons.

Wrapped around the girlfriend in my lap. I wanted to stay this way. Rest of the world could take a break while I calmed down.

"Feeling better?" She asked, smiling softly, stroking my hair.

I mutely nodded. The tears had dried.

"Well - we've got World Affairs next," Abby sighed, resting her head on mine. "The subject's - Eden's going to come up, almost for certain. Do you - think you can handle that?"

I shook my head. "Have to anyway. Can't - miss more class. I'll get in trouble."

"If you're absolutely sure…" She cupped my cheek and gave me a kiss. Long, soothing. "I'll be right next to you the whole time, and then it's break. We can go find Chris and start plotting again or something."

Class was pretty hellish. Eden did come up, and Mr. Jensen wanted us to 'discuss her in the context of biotinkers, their predisposition towards villainy, and the legal status of rogues'.

"Why wouldn't they be villains?" I said quietly. "There's only like - five or six of them that are publicly known, and one of them is Bonesaw. If that's all it takes to get a 'predisposition', why aren't Changers or Brutes considered predisposed to villainy, considering Crawler? Or - if we look at the overall stats - regardless of lifespan, well over two thirds of all capes are considered villainous. Are all capes considered predisposed to villainy?"

"That's a good point, Taylor. Thank you. Is crime simply easier, or are there greater societal problems at work? Michael, you have your hand up."

"They can make plagues and stuff? And I guess the whole 'human body is sacrosanct' thing, and biotinkers messing with that could make what they do be perceived as villainy by default regardless of their own thoughts on the matter?"

"Then why aren't healers stigmatised in the same way?" Sally-Anne from the club turned out to be in the same class and she leant forward over her desk. "Like, I think it is more social stuff. It's the same reason crime exists in general, really - desperate people do desperate things."

Desperate people do desperate things. The words stuck in my head as, with Abby's arm around me, we dispersed for break.

"Abby, am - am I biased?" I asked quietly as we sat in my usual spot. I'd packed lunch from home - the Dallon's place - and suspected the blocks of chocolate I found weren't exactly… for me, but - chocolate. It helped. "What with M - Annette's… you know."

"Maybe?" She shrugged, letting me lean on her. "Biotinkers have a bad rep but you had a good point about sample size. Anyone can be predisposed to anything as long as you present the statistics a specific way."

"Mmm." I broke off some chocolate and offered it to her. "I just wish -" I didn't know what I wished. Peace, quiet, my life back to normal? "Wish I knew what was going on. Why she's acting like this." Why she thinks I need her 'kindness'.

"Some parents just feel like… their kids are their property. Like - like a nice piece of furniture. Or - no, like a not particularly bright pet. Like a lizard or a fish or something." She squeezed my waist tighter. "They might love the pet, and want the pet to be 'happy'. But they want that to be on their terms. What they want."

"She probably does think I'm a not particularly bright lizard." Damnit, I hope she didn't make my skin bright to show that I was 'poisonous' or whatever. I didn't want to go living my life as a neon green and blue nightmare. I sighed. "Maybe if I just asked she'd let me go."

"I don't think abuse works like that." She burrowed her head into my side. "I wish it did. A lot of people would be a lot better off."

"Mmm." Abuse made me think of Emma. Thinking of Emma reminded me I needed to borrow Victoria's phone and check it for texts to her. Or - the plan had been to check Emma's phone, but I was desperate to do something. To not sit around and wait. "Do you see Victoria around anywhere?"

Abby's face shuttered a bit. "We do still need to talk about that."

"Oh. Right, I um. I wanted to - borrow her phone. See if - if she did text Emma that I was awake on Saturday." I sighed and curled up a bit. Can't get anything right -

"Oh. Amy's over there, she might know?" Her hand rubbed on my back. "And it's okay. We just - do have to talk about your crush. And maybe being poly."

"I'm not sure I like the idea of being poly. Like - I like you. Like-you-like-you. Like doesn't feel like a word anymore. But - the idea of being with someone else too feels nice to me, but betraying to you? And I don't - I don't want that. And I know you and Victoria have… bad history, so that just - makes me feel even worse about it."

"Taylor." Abby swung round in front of me, looking up at me. "Being who you are isn't betraying me. And my history with Victoria is very complicated and unfortunate, but shouldn't have any bearing on you working out who you are."

"It'd still feel like betraying you even if it wasn't Victoria." I buried my face in her neck and sniffled. "I don't know. Things suck."

"It's not. It's different, but it's not betraying, okay?" Her kiss on the side of my neck. "I'll try and get some literature and articles on polysexuality for you."

"Okay." I looked up and - that was Amy. Coming over with Chris and giving me a look of - something that didn't seem pleasant. Why - why was she coming to me? Did Chris tell her about my suspicions?!

Chris smiled, guilelessly. "Hey guys. I kinda bumped into Amy in the hall over to see you guys. Are you okay, Taylor? I heard about, um. The whole - skipping class thing and just - wanted to see if you were alright."

"Not really but I'm - dealing." I shrugged and let Abby clamber off me and back into her own seat. "Surprised you wanted the company, Amy."

"After that freakout you had at home, Victoria's been bugging me to check up on you." Her mouth dipped into a sneer. "Since she and Dean made up last night." Wow, every day I learn there are new depths to the amount of venom Amy can imply with her voice without actually being venomous. Also curious when she found the time for that after - oh. Ohh, that was probably why she was awake when I had my nightmare. I hoped I hadn't interrupted something intimate. That would be - even more awkward than things already were.

"Oh, that's happening again?" Abby peered round Chris' shoulder. "Yup! Wow, they're uh. Right back at it."

Yeah. Why did I think I had a chance with her, again? I sighed and held out my hand - Amy poked it, frowned, and shrugged. "You seem fine, as far as hormone levels go. On this side, at least. Well." Her frown shifted around her face, moving down to settle in her jaw as she pushed it from side to side, like she was saying something inside her head and her mouth was trying to keep up with it. "Actually, Taylor. I need to talk to you about some stuff? Privately."

"Um. Okay?" I frowned and looked to the other two - they seemed as clueless as I was. "Where do you wanna go?" I took the half a block of chocolate with me but left my bag behind with Abby as Amy semi-dragged me into the courtyard and to her usual brooding corner under the tree in the corner.

Amy paused, then sat on the little brick wall. "How are you?"

That was - not what I was expecting. "I'm… okay, I guess. Physically speaking. Mentally fine, just - emotionally struggling." I shrugged. "You doing okay?" I offered some chocolate.

"Where did you even find this?"

"It was behind the breadbin."

"Mm." She huffed, her lips curling into what might have been a smile as she bit into it. "So that's where she hides the good stuff." I didn't know if she was Brandish or Victoria, but I knew there was going to be hell to pay if either of them noticed. "Are you actually okay? Cause I know you have this. Well. You have a thing for Victoria."

I sighed and slumped down against the tree next to her. "Yeah, it's - like, she's hot, she's bi, she's just been so nice - but, way out of my league, and has complicated history with Abby, who I care for a lot, but I've figured out I'm poly, so my mind can't seem to comprehend monogamy to save my social life. So it's like - I'm okay, but also in a constant state where if I think about things for too long, my carefully constructed emotional house of cards starts to topple. Add in the stupidly vivid nightmares of everyone I care about - which includes you, by the way - dying viciously to Annette as I'm paralyzed in my tank…" I probably shouldn't have dumped this on her.

Amy laughed. Suddenly and long, nearly bending herself double. "Not - laughing at you. Just. Those nightmares. And everything. Do you think she would?" She looked over at me, brushing her hair away from her mouth, where the wind had blown it. "Kill us. I mean."

I pursed my lips. "I - I don't know. I want to say no. She wouldn't. You guys already tried kidnapping me once and survived that so - she wouldn't. Not unless she was absolutely sure you were trying to hurt me."

"Tell me more about her. It just - I've sort of fought her, seen her work. But what's she like? As a mom or a person or whatever."

"Caring, paranoid, balls of steel." I grinned fondly. "You know how the Empire's been around since - ages ago? She was - well, if it weren't for Eden she probably still would be - a literature professor at the University. More than one of her courses feature her favourite bedtime story to read to me when I was younger -" I paused, my cheeks heating up. "And now that I put it like that, and realise it was a rather explicit lesbian coming-of-age story and that might explain a few things." I coughed, looking away.

"She read you lesbian smut to get you to go to sleep?"

"I thought they were just - passionately hugging! Or something." I hunched my shoulders in as she laughed. "They seemed like really good friends."

Amy's smile was wider than I'd seen it before. "That's what all the historians say."

"Yeah, well - I dunno. Apparently I was pretty clueless about that." I huffed, folding my arms. Even Emma figured me out before I did. "But she sucked in some ways. Before. The paranoia thing." Squirming uncomfortably. "Even before the accident, she was always worried, fussed over me whenever I went out to Emma's - I remember having a phone, specifically because that model had a panic button - just one press and it'd sent a preset message to whoever."

"I think I remember that one." Amy nodded slowly. "Capes use them a lot, and I saw some old pamphlets for it as alternatives to the medic alert bracelets old people get offered."

"Yeah. That'd probably be the one. No idea what happened to mine, but - I remember she wouldn't let me go out without it. Dad wasn't as fussed, but Mom… yeah. And afterwards - it was like that, but dialled up to eleven. School, home, no in-between, wanting to be involved in everything, smothering but - in a good way? I don't know, Abby told me self-diagnosis on abusive parents is - er, isn't, um. Accurate."

"How is smothering ever good?"

"I don't know I - I think I would have just shut down and self-destructed if she'd gone the other way and been a negligent absentee parent." I shrugged helplessly. "It - gave me something to do, something to think about, someone to rage against. We fought a lot, but always made up after."

"I'm adopted, you know." She had started looking away from me at some point.

Don't say any of the things I said to Victoria last night, don't say any of the things - "Um. I'm not sure what's appropriate to say, so um - thank you for trusting me with this information?" I really needed to look up the social etiquette about that online or something. Or ask Abby.

"I'm not trusting you with anything, you already knew. I could tell you'd found out from Vicky because she got all weird in texts about it again." Damnit. Her fingers drummed on her thigh. "My dad. My dad was - I knew for ages I was adopted. Ages and ages. But I didn't know until - well, Mom and Aunt Sarah tell it a little differently but. I didn't know until after I became Panacea that my father had been a villain. They'd found me in his lair and. Taken me in. So." The fingers on her thigh drummed faster. "There's that."

"Oh. Wow, that - " I blinked. "That… can't have been easy, growing up. I've only been with you guys a week or so and Brandish is… scarily intense."

"It was fine growing up. Like I said, I didn't know until a few years ago." She scowled. "Carol's just like that. Anyway. I should go make sure that Victoria and her boytoy's lips haven't melted together." She stood up.

"Right, sorry." I winced. "Guess it's just culture shock on my end."

"Sure." She turned her head back to me. "Don't tell anyone about my dad, okay? Just don't." Then, quieter. "But I do get it. The. Parent thing. I remember bits. Sometimes. So." And then before I could think of what to say or offer a hug, she was walking away as quickly as she could, hunching against the wind and with her hands shoved in the pockets of her jeans.

Well… fuck. If I passed her in the halls, and there was any chocolate left, I was going to give it to her. She needed it.

And - hang on, she mentioned this side of things in front of Chris like it was nothing! What happened to secrecy?! He - wasn't meant to know, and I hadn't admitted telling him - had she just assumed? Had he told her about how I'd told him?

Revised thought; no chocolate for her until I got answers.

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Somehow dispute normally liking escalating, destruction fics, with kick ass MC's this is one of my fav ongoing stories, your characters are fun, the plot is interesting although most stuff is just people talking not doing (in a good way).

I really hope Taylor can get access to her monster body soon, the shenanigans that would ensure would be so exciting.
 
ACAB and the PRT
Ultimately, vis a vis the PRT, the key thing to bear in mind is that note in Flare's document? Isn't unusual.

Perhaps I should explain - I don't think I wrote it as misery porn. I did write it while feeling very angry and unhappy and sad, but I didn't write it to make people in or out of universe sad (which is my definition of misery porn, writing things that are excessively sad to make other people sad, be they in or out of universe). I wrote it because at the time I wrote it I genuinely felt it important to highlight that, ultimately, the PRT and Protectorate are cops. And, well, ACAB. And that first A is important. It is All cops (or in this case, coplikes).

I should also emphasise that those kinds of instructions would be unusual for affluent cis white heterosexual (or presumed heterosexual, anyway) male capes. And the further you get from that, the more the PRT and Protectorate would be okay with doing some very unpleasant things to 'bring you into line'.

You might have two points to answer this. One would be that we've said previously that in our version of the wormverse, homophobia is less than in the modern world we live in. This is true, but the way I think of it is like sexism irl. The popular narrative is that sexism is 'over' and thus an awful lot of sexism still gets to take place and any attempt to defeat it is met with widespread complaints and whataboutism. The same thing is happening in this version of the wormverse with homophobia. People will point at Legend, at the legality of gay marriage and say 'look, there's no real discrimination against gay people' and ignore all the facts and figures.

The second point might be that it isn't in the Protectorate's interest to do this sort of thing. That leaking it to the public would lead to outrage. That various 'good' figures within the organisation would object. That capes are fundamentally unstable and banking on that instability is really very dangerous and stupid. Let's handle those one at a time.

Looking at real life, we do know that leaking it would provoke some outrage. For a time. There would be promises of reform, the officers in question would be asked to take leave. And then things would die down, and keep going. I imagine scandals like this have broken in cities all across America at this point, about people being strongarmed into the Wards or Protectorate. But ultimately, it keeps on going (probably helped by the backing of Cauldron, which means a lot of the scandals don't leak at all). So leaking to the public is a nonstarter - and if you're the leaker, god fucking help you. In real life, cops have been sectioned for trying to speak out about their colleagues, harassed and had drugs planted on them. I imagine similar tactics - and worse, given the availability of superpowers - would be available here to any potential leakers. Very very quickly, you'd learn in the PRT (as cops learn today) that snitches get stitches, and the important thing is loyalty to the team, to the organisation.

Which brings us to the idea of good figures within the organisation, objecting. Who would they object to, though? Internal affairs? That's a good way to go the way of the leakers. Each other? They could disobey those instructions, but that's about it. And that's even assuming any of them would have the strength of character and moral fibre to do so. Of the members of the BB Wards and Protectorate team, I think only Gallant (and maybe Clockblocker) would. If you want specifics on the three named characters brought up:
I'm not entirely familiar with his backstory as revealed in Ward, but from what I do know he's maybe the most likely to be okay of the three I'm about to go through. Even then, it probably wouldn't be hard to put pressure on him via his son, and the stress of his upcoming divorce, to get him to drop it. So, that's a maybe would try, but would almost definitely stop or be stopped.
Triumph's ultimately a rich white kid. In a town where probably if you're a rich white kid your family has, at least, Empire sympathies. In canon, he's happily living in a posh, non-waterlogged house having a nice dinner while the rest of the city is still fucked just after Leviathan and the S9. If you honestly think he'd give a single shit...
Battery's dad was a cop. Given the rate of familial abuse by cops, she probably grew up in a fucked up household, even before we get into her childhood kidnapping trauma. Or her being forced into babysitting the man she literally got her powers to stop, who repeatedly harasses her until she marries him. Even ignoring some of the fucked up implications of that, Battery is likely best described as an abuse survivor surrounded by constant stressors. She wouldn't have the spoons to even think about doing anything about this.

The third point is perhaps the strongest. Prodding capes like this is probably not the wisest move, no. While handling outbursts might not be hard, it's not necessarily smart for building loyalty - but here we get into the purpose of the PRT.

I thought briefly about going REALLY fucking dark with this. Again, initially I was thinking in terms of real world cops, who are so violent because they are told, over and over again, that everyone out there wants to murder them, that unless they murder and kill first they are going to end up fucking dead, and imagined that mindset applied to a cape wrangling group and… yeah. But ultimately that's not what the PRT and Protectorate are for. They're a way for Cauldron to keep an eye on and manage capes - or they were. Their first draft at it. But, then they came up with the feudalism plan because they decided the PRT wasn't working. So I think that maybe, maybe these policies weren't so open, or so bad at first. But as keeping capes loyal became less and less important to the higher ups and the highest up (Alexandria), loyalty became less and less of a concern. Ultimately what matters is wrangling capes together into the same space, by hook or by crook, that's it. It could be worse - it could be a lot worse (they're mostly focused on capes, so their offences are, by the numbers, relatively few; they're mostly focused on forced recruitment so there's less harassment and violence). But it's still pretty fucking awful. And maybe it is a bit grimderp, but with the world the way it is now… I think it's a pretty close reflection of reality, and an important one at that.

Ultimately, the PRT and Protectorate are cops for capes. And ACAB. All cops. All of them.
 
I'd like to remind everyone that this is Worm we're talking about. Logic will always take a backseat to grimderp whenever possible.


I guess, ultimately, I don't want to write grimderp (grimdark for the sake of grimdark). 'Being Taylor is Suffering' is one of the things I hate the most because not only is it almost always so senseless, it also hurts because I identify with Taylor so strongly (not to mention my name is also Taylor).

So I do my best to avoid it. But I love writing Bittersweet. So if it's dark, if it's suffering, I do my utmost best to ultimately have a reason for it. If being Taylor is suffering, I absolutely refuse to end it with that. Taylor might be suffering now, but it's going to make the payoff of her big roaring rampage of justified fury all the more satisfying.
 
Turns out Amy could write doctor's notes, and basically excused me from the essay by way of 'mental health concerns'. I don't know if it was bullshit or not - or she was actually allowed to do this sort of thing - but I was willing to try.
This...makes a great deal of sense. Amy is Panacea after all.
Caring, paranoid, balls of steel." I grinned fondly. "You know how the Empire's been around since - ages ago? She was - well, if it weren't for Eden she probably still would be - a literature professor at the University. More than one of her courses feature her favourite bedtime story to read to me when I was younger -" I paused, my cheeks heating up. "And now that I put it like that, and realise it was a rather explicit lesbian coming-of-age story and that might explain a few things." I coughed, looking away.

"She read you lesbian smut to get you to go to sleep?"

"I thought they were just - passionately hugging! Or something." I hunched my shoulders in as she laughed. "They seemed like really good friends."

Amy's smile was wider than I'd seen it before. "That's what all the historians say
As amusing as this bit was, think about it: Annette read Taylor lesbian smut to get her to sleep. At like age 8.
That's incredibly fucked up.
Edit: As Jannika pointed out, the "explicit material" may or may not be pornographic/erotic. So, take my statement with a large grain of salt.
 
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I'd like to remind everyone that this is Worm we're talking about. Logic will always take a backseat to grimderp whenever possible.
Wow, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Worm isn't even grimdark, much less grimderk. Did you even read Worm, or are you one of those blithering morons who loudly proclaims your refusal to read it as if it were something to be proud of?
 
It doesn't mention what story it's talking about, and what's appropriate for children is very different across the world.
Explicit content doesn't mean pornography or even erotic, i learned about sex and puberty long before it was relevant to me.
I would almost say that's a better way to deal with it than later if the American attitude to sex is any indication.
 
I find it funny how it didn't occur to anybody that Annette might just gloss over or paraphrase the bits she was reading aloud to get her daughter to sleep that were in no way appropriate for a girl her daughter's age


Wow, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Worm isn't even grimdark, much less grimderk. Did you even read Worm, or are you one of those blithering morons who loudly proclaims your refusal to read it as if it were something to be proud of?
could we tone down the aggression please and thank you?
 
But, then they came up with the feudalism plan because they decided the PRT wasn't working.
Note that unless I've really badly misremembered things the cape feudalism plan wasn't "this is what Cauldron wants for the future," it's "this is what's inevitable given the combination of ongoing societal collapse and an increasing number of strong parahumans, so we may as well run some experiments to figure out how best to manage it."
 
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